Typical mad American Opium Wars result in China ceding Hong Kong Island in perpetuity to Britain; the Crown colony of Hong Kong is established. However:
The Treaty of Wangxia (Wang-hsia) was the first formal treaty signed between the United States and China in 1844. It served as an American counterpart to the Anglo-Chinese Treaty of Nanjing that ended the First Opium War in 1842. The Opium War and these treaties were emblematic of an era in which Western powers tried to gain unfettered access to Chinese products and markets for European and U.S. trade.
Western traders, including those from the United States, had long sought a variety of Chinese products (including furniture, silk and tea), but found there were few products that China wanted from the West. American trade with China began as early as 1784, relying on North American exports such as furs, sandalwood, and ginseng, but American interest in Chinese products soon outstripped the Chinese appetite for these American exports. The British had already discovered a great market in southern China for smuggled opium, and American traders soon also turned to opium to supplement their exports to China. Beyond the health problems related to opium addiction, the increasing opium trade with the Western powers meant that for the first time, China imported more goods than it exported. Settling this financial problem eventually led to the First Opium War between Great Britain and China, from 1839 to 1942. After defeating the Chinese in a series of naval conflicts, the British were in a position to make a large number of demands from the weaker Qing Government of China, in the Anglo-Chinese Treaty of Nanjing. Not to be outdone, U.S. negotiators sought to conclude a similar treaty with the Chinese, to guarantee the United States many of the favorable terms awarded the British. The Chinese readily agreed in an effort to keep all foreigners on the same footing.
robplum: Typical mad American Opium Wars result in China ceding Hong Kong Island in perpetuity to Britain; the Crown colony of Hong Kong is established. However:
The Treaty of Wangxia (Wang-hsia) was the first formal treaty signed between the United States and China in 1844. It served as an American counterpart to the Anglo-Chinese Treaty of Nanjing that ended the First Opium War in 1842. The Opium War and these treaties were emblematic of an era in which Western powers tried to gain unfettered access to Chinese products and markets for European and U.S. trade.
Western traders, including those from the United States, had long sought a variety of Chinese products (including furniture, silk and tea), but found there were few products that China wanted from the West. American trade with China began as early as 1784, relying on North American exports such as furs, sandalwood, and ginseng, but American interest in Chinese products soon outstripped the Chinese appetite for these American exports. The British had already discovered a great market in southern China for smuggled opium, and American traders soon also turned to opium to supplement their exports to China. Beyond the health problems related to opium addiction, the increasing opium trade with the Western powers meant that for the first time, China imported more goods than it exported. Settling this financial problem eventually led to the First Opium War between Great Britain and China, from 1839 to 1942. After defeating the Chinese in a series of naval conflicts, the British were in a position to make a large number of demands from the weaker Qing Government of China, in the Anglo-Chinese Treaty of Nanjing. Not to be outdone, U.S. negotiators sought to conclude a similar treaty with the Chinese, to guarantee the United States many of the favorable terms awarded the British. The Chinese readily agreed in an effort to keep all foreigners on the same footing.
so,you're saying it is all America's Fault,as usual?
robplum: Typical mad American Opium Wars result in China ceding Hong Kong Island in perpetuity to Britain; the Crown colony of Hong Kong is established. However:
The Treaty of Wangxia (Wang-hsia) was the first formal treaty signed between the United States and China in 1844. It served as an American counterpart to the Anglo-Chinese Treaty of Nanjing that ended the First Opium War in 1842. The Opium War and these treaties were emblematic of an era in which Western powers tried to gain unfettered access to Chinese products and markets for European and U.S. trade.
Western traders, including those from the United States, had long sought a variety of Chinese products (including furniture, silk and tea), but found there were few products that China wanted from the West. American trade with China began as early as 1784, relying on North American exports such as furs, sandalwood, and ginseng, but American interest in Chinese products soon outstripped the Chinese appetite for these American exports. The British had already discovered a great market in southern China for smuggled opium, and American traders soon also turned to opium to supplement their exports to China. Beyond the health problems related to opium addiction, the increasing opium trade with the Western powers meant that for the first time, China imported more goods than it exported. Settling this financial problem eventually led to the First Opium War between Great Britain and China, from 1839 to 1942. After defeating the Chinese in a series of naval conflicts, the British were in a position to make a large number of demands from the weaker Qing Government of China, in the Anglo-Chinese Treaty of Nanjing. Not to be outdone, U.S. negotiators sought to conclude a similar treaty with the Chinese, to guarantee the United States many of the favorable terms awarded the British. The Chinese readily agreed in an effort to keep all foreigners on the same footing.
I now understand why, after years on CS., some people only respond with emojis Because it is pointless
CossackCat: I now understand why, after years on CS., some people only respond with emojis Because it is pointless
Make some threads, and try to stay on topic
You hijacked this tread with your rude and insulting comments. You give out the appearance of a bitter and twisted rude insulting silly person, who just inappropriately insulted Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth our head of State, because you haven't a clue about issues that are been played out in Hong Kong.
For your information both America and Britain attempted to control the whole of the Chinese nation by feeding them Opium, with opium shipped in from Afghanistan they attempted to control all of China. The Chinese rose up and gave Britain and America a hiding, yet China agreed to a lease over the Hong Kong territory, a lease that quite recently expired and a transition agreement was then entered into between the parties including by mainland china who is attempting to breach the terms of that agreements. I understand you don't learn anything in American schools other than America is great or like brainwashing and I also understand you dislike my person, but please try to grow up and stop complaining every time someone posts a comment you don't understand. The only person who has varied from the subject matter of this thread is you with your insulting comments directed against our head of State, which if anything would be directed towards people like you
Pvt Plum claims to be a Vietnam vet. It seems like he was educated in Red China. I was on one of the C-130s that pulled the last of the Aussies out of Vungtau in '71, and that was before my gunship tour. Early quitters.
secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA7,229 posts
I have to admit that when I see news about Hong Kong on the tv news I changed the channel because it didn't have anything to do with me. I rarely comment about world events but this morning I saw what the protests in Hong Kong are about.
Every Sunday morning I watch a tv show called CBS Sunday Morning. This is the segment from the show about Hong Kong. Now my eyes are wide open what the protests are about.
TTKSpectre: Pvt Plum claims to be a Vietnam vet. It seems like he was educated in Red China. I was on one of the C-130s that pulled the last of the Aussies out of Vungtau in '71, and that was before my gunship tour. Early quitters.
Vung Tau 1971 it'd be far more likely dioxin got you than VC their after all it was also a RNC Center, so more likely you would catch Gonorrhea or Syphilis than a purple-heart
secretagent09: I have to admit that when I see news about Hong Kong on the tv news I changed the channel because it didn't have anything to do with me. I rarely comment about world events but this morning I saw what the protests in Hong Kong are about.
Every Sunday morning I watch a tv show called CBS Sunday Morning. This is the segment from the show about Hong Kong. Now my eyes are wide open what the protests are about.
Interesting video, thank you. In my opinion, the problems lie squarely with Beijing, had the CCP NOT made the election a farce by only allowing those who were affiliated to Beijing, stand for election, then none of this would have occurred. Hong Kong has many problems, most relating to the British rule, but to deny the people the right to select their own leader will do nothing to solve historical problems and, as has been shown, just exacerbates more problems that will be harder to solve. Sadly it is not in Chinese culture to admit they made a mistake, so how this will end is with more violence and possibly many deaths.
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