PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
a second vote for Brexit will be a proof of how the politicians have been lying and still are lying to the British people. They voted out, the EU started making it difficult and the politicians that where against the Brexit loved it and took their chance to slow down the proces in the hope there will be no Brexit at all.
Hail to the British people. Protest, demonstrate, show the politicians the will of the people. Maybe tomorrow will be to early, but a big protest in London next week, it should be possible. Come on my british friends, give them hell.
galrads: I never understood why great Britain became part of the EU. Get out and make Britain great again.
galrads at first it was for trade, then it became so big with unelected folks and then the laws etc, for all its countries so it got too big and Cameron then tried to get a more even deal for us and the EU dug its heels in and is getting more adept at it too. The sooner we are out and trade with big wide world, and have an even immigration policy not open doors the better. JMO
HooberDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK116 posts
michaelright: I always thought the vote of the majority was democracy,, it seems only to be the case when it suits the dim wits in parliament .
So you think the spirit of democracy is being served when slightly less than half the population is being dragged along in a direction it doesn't want to go? 52% is a technical majority, but to treat that outcome the same as you would a 99.9% majority is putting technicality before principle. And, surely, democracy is founded on principle.
Those who keep going on about carrying out "the will of the British people", obviously think that 48% of voters are no longer British people.
Britain is a popular, famous place and without it the European Union lacks personality.
British kudos is the most respected of all the white kudos, the tendency for coloured races to respect and throw money at us because of what our ancestors achieved is something we take with us.
1. Laws are proposed by the European Council (PM or Presidents of each country). 2. These are then drafted by the EU commission (the members of which are appointed by the national governments of the member states and report to those governments). 3. For a proposed legislation to become law, it must be voted on by both the EU Parliament (MEPs elected by proportional representation by the citizens of the member states), and the Council of Ministers (with a majority representing both the majority of the EU states AND >55% of the Population of the EU). 4. Only when both the EU Parliament and the Council of Ministers agree can any legislation become law. Matters of sovereignty either require a unanimous decision (and the UK had a veto)- this means Britain or any country has not in the past and cannot in the future be forced to give up any of its sovereignty.
Since 1999 the British Government has been on the winning side 95% of the time, abstained 3% of the time, and were on the losing side 2%, for bills passed into EU Law.
The separation of powers among the a; Commision (drafting legislation, implementing legislation, mediating council and parliament), b. Council (voting on legislation from perspective of individual countries), and c. Parliament (voting on legislation from perspective of Europe), and all the steep requirements to pass laws through qualified majority voting ensures that the EU will only implement legislation that has been approved by all the countries. The design of the system is meticulous.
Compare this to the UK system, where elections are by First Past the Post, a government may have a majority with less than 1/3 of the popular vote, allowing them to create legislation, which can then be forced through even if ther unelected second house (Lords) rejects.
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