not so religious (28)
You said, "parishes", they are Roman Catholic? They should stop going completely, organized religion is not for everyone and they aren't going to change a church, with their control issues.
Or
Start seaching Protestant denominations
Or
Start seaching Protestant denominations
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rohaan: Hi everybody--please understand before reading this that I am very much jaded regarding organized religion--this is NOT an attempt to proselytize. thanx
Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
They are comfortable there and more then likely don't want to change where they go to worship even though they don't agree with it. They just want to change the way people think.Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
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secretagent09: They are comfortable there and more then likely don't want to change where they go to worship even though they don't agree with it. They just want to change the way people think.
Believe it or not, this makes a little sense--but they are not going to change anyone, as you said. I would think it would be just too frustrating to keep it up, though. It wouldn't work for me.......(they are Seventh Day Adventist)--I don't know what they call the individual ones, I am Church Of England, we say "parish"
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CossackCat: You said, "parishes", they are Roman Catholic? They should stop going completely, organized religion is not for everyone and they aren't going to change a church, with their control issues.
Or
Start seaching Protestant denominations
Absolutely. I wonder if some people are just never content. I believe that SDA members are always trying to "fix" it, they are perfectionists in my observation and are very attached to old Jewish Law--they are always trying to "work" toward this perfect Nirvana, which sadly, never existed and never will, as we know it, anyway. JMOOr
Start seaching Protestant denominations
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rohaan: Absolutely. I wonder if some people are just never content. I believe that SDA members are always trying to "fix" it, they are perfectionists in my observation and are very attached to old Jewish Law--they are always trying to "work" toward this perfect Nirvana, which sadly, never existed and never will, as we know it, anyway. JMO
Some are very strict. Most are Kosher and Saturday is the Sabbath. But some don't eat meat at all. And have other strick doctrine. I never heard of this "Nirvana" concept with it. (Think that is Hindi). Unless you are using an analogy for "Christ -like"?
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secretagent09: They are comfortable there and more then likely don't want to change where they go to worship even though they don't agree with it. They just want to change the way people think.
That's what I was thinking too! 
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rohaan: (they are Seventh Day Adventist)--I don't know what they call the individual ones, I am Church Of England, we say "parish"
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rohaan: Hi everybody--please understand before reading this that I am very much jaded regarding organized religion--this is NOT an attempt to proselytize. thanx
Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
Hi Ro, Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
Are they complainers in general as well, or is it just regarding religion?
Some people just enjoy complaining. It's what gets them through life.
If it is simply about their religion, then If they can't find something that suits them, then they should just pray privately.
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mollybaby: Hi Ro,
Are they complainers in general as well, or is it just regarding religion?
Some people just enjoy complaining. It's what gets them through life.
If it is simply about their religion, then If they can't find something that suits them, then they should just pray privately.
I kind of agree, All of the different religions, beliefs, are all mixed up,and very confusing...Are they complainers in general as well, or is it just regarding religion?
Some people just enjoy complaining. It's what gets them through life.
If it is simply about their religion, then If they can't find something that suits them, then they should just pray privately.
Its kinda like digging through a Giant Box of shoes and trying to find some that Fit without complaining!
Hello Molly!
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rohaan: Hi everybody--please understand before reading this that I am very much jaded regarding organized religion--this is NOT an attempt to proselytize. thanx
Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
nothing you can do against lack of common sense.Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
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rohaan: Hi everybody--please understand before reading this that I am very much jaded regarding organized religion--this is NOT an attempt to proselytize. thanx
Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
What the hell is "proselytise" anyway? Why don´t you write something more interesting and stop wasting my timeTwo very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
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rohaan: Hi everybody--please understand before reading this that I am very much jaded regarding organized religion--this is NOT an attempt to proselytize. thanx
Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
What do they think the truth is?Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?:
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CossackCat: Some are very strict. Most are Kosher and Saturday is the Sabbath. But some don't eat meat at all. And have other strick doctrine.
I never heard of this "Nirvana" concept with it. (Think that is Hindi). Unless you are using an analogy for "Christ -like"?
I admit I have a bit of a hard time trying to "illustrate" my exact meaning. I'll put it another way--they (appear) to be working toward a perfect life here on earth.One thing is now for CERTAIN--as much as I really do love these people, I am not returning to that church for a visit, under any circumstances. To me, it totally appears like a cult, and the behaviors and mannerisms of so many members of SDA have a sameness that is unnerving, to me, anyway.I never heard of this "Nirvana" concept with it. (Think that is Hindi). Unless you are using an analogy for "Christ -like"?
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HardporeCorn: What do they think the truth is?
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Bnaughty: What the hell is "proselytise" anyway? Why don´t you write something more interesting and stop wasting my time
It means trying to get people who don't believe the way you do to believe the way you do. Hey, don't be a bully--I thought you liked me, you cute old buff daddy-o---are you happy to see me or is that a ...............in your pocket?------ This thread is Archived ------
rohaan: It means trying to get people who don't believe the way you do to believe the way you do. Hey, don't be a bully--I thought you liked me, you cute old buff daddy-o---are you happy to see me or is that a ...............in your pocket?
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rohaan: It means trying to get people who don't believe the way you do to believe the way you do. Hey, don't be a bully--I thought you liked me, you cute old buff daddy-o---are you happy to see me or is that a ...............in your pocket?
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mollybaby: Stick to the topic and stop flirting with BN
You know me--I just can't help it.(besides, he has a rocket launcher...............tough to turn down)
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Bnaughty: It may look like a rocket launcher in my pocket, but in fact it´s not
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Two very good friends of mine are SDA. A married couple, they are fiercely attached to attending services, in whatever town they happen to be in (they own several homes on the west coast..) Problem is, they are in constant disagreement with what they visualize as the current movement's departure from how THEY see the church should be. They have been so adamant about how they see it that they have at least one PRO against them in one of the local "wards/parishes" here. They are an older, retired couple. Their complaints are constant, and with every single parish they go to. The husband simply says that they are not preaching "the truth", nor do they want to here "the truth". Yet they continue to go... At their current home church, they have been told they are welcome to attend, but will not be accepted formally as members. I have tried several times,diplomatically, to advise they find another avenue they are more comfortable with. I just don't get it--why go where you are in disagreement AND, obviously, not wanted?: