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Feb 15, 2020 7:08 AM CST What is feminism?
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
A feminist might be a man hater, but misandry isn’t a necessary requirement of feminism. To point to man hating feminists and hold them up as being representative of all feminists, for the purposes of making an argument against feminism, is to do what a certain misguided individual round here often accuses others of doing. It is called a “straw man argument”, and is a concept the aforementioned individual clearly cannot grasp.

I thought it might be useful to define the basic principles of feminism, so that, should anyone want to make a argument against it, it would be far easier to judge if their reasoning is legitimate.

My understanding is that feminism demands equal rights and opportunities for women. I find it very hard to come up with an objection to that, but perhaps I am unaware of some other -more disagreeable- aspects of feminism.

So, if anyone would like to offer their definition of “feminism”, let’s have it. writing
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Feb 15, 2020 7:47 AM CST What is feminism?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
In my generation feminism is the license to do any mad thing you want like the pretty girls can. No consequences.
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Feb 15, 2020 7:51 AM CST What is feminism?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
How many children did the true feminists have? typically about 7, so they obviously didn;t totally hate men. Just my observation.
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Feb 15, 2020 8:16 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
pat8lanips: How many children did the true feminists have? typically about 7, so they obviously didn;t totally hate men. Just my observation.
Hiw many children does gloria stenhem have?
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Feb 15, 2020 8:36 AM CST What is feminism?
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
ChesneyChrist: In my generation feminism is the license to do any mad thing you want like the pretty girls can. No consequences.
I don't think the right to do any mad thing one wants, is within the generally accepted definition of feminism, Chesney. If it were, I suspect there would be a great many more feminists. smile
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Feb 15, 2020 8:39 AM CST What is feminism?
HarbalEsquire: A feminist might be a man hater, but misandry isn’t a necessary requirement of feminism. To point to man hating feminists and hold them up as being representative of all feminists, for the purposes of making an argument against feminism, is to do what a certain misguided individual round here often accuses others of doing. It is called a “straw man argument”, and is a concept the aforementioned individual clearly cannot grasp.

I thought it might be useful to define the basic principles of feminism, so that, should anyone want to make a argument against it, it would be far easier to judge if their reasoning is legitimate.

My understanding is that feminism demands equal rights and opportunities for women. I find it very hard to come up with an objection to that, but perhaps I am unaware of some other -more disagreeable- aspects of feminism.

So, if anyone would like to offer their definition of “feminism”, let’s have it.
can men be feminists confused
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Feb 15, 2020 8:44 AM CST What is feminism?
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
michaelright: can men be feminists
I believe anyone who promotes the feminist cause is entitled to call themself a feminist. dunno
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Feb 15, 2020 8:51 AM CST What is feminism?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And sometimes the reverse. Men laughing at everything a pretty woman says has her shave all her hair off. It is a perverse reaction to receiving a lot of attention based upon lies.
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Feb 15, 2020 9:33 AM CST What is feminism?
HarbalEsquire: Thank you, Frau Spitz, at last, what I was asking for..
You are welcome and my dog is German I'm English. lips
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Feb 15, 2020 9:34 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
HarbalEsquire: Thank you, Frau Spitz, at last, what I was asking for.

Now I wonder if anyone would like to either challenge this definition, or make an argument against its fairness.
I’d like to know why the need for feminist exist today. Women are way ahead of men in most things today in the USA. By way ahead I mean... quality jobs, college educations, acquisitions, savings, multiple relationships, better cars and homes, more frequent quality vacations etc
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Feb 15, 2020 9:37 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads: I’d like to know why the need for feminist exist today. Women are way ahead of men in most things today in the USA. By way ahead I mean... quality jobs, college educations, acquisitions, savings, multiple relationships, better cars and homes, more frequent quality vacations etc
This is why Galrads . Just one example of inequality between men and women in the workplace.

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Feb 15, 2020 9:38 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
germanspitz: You are welcome and my dog is German I'm English.
I’m FBI and don’t have a dog
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Feb 15, 2020 9:38 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
germanspitz: You are welcome and my dog is German I'm English.
I’m FBI and don’t have a dog
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Feb 15, 2020 9:40 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads: I’m FBI and don’t have a dog
No comment on what FBI stands forlaugh
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Feb 15, 2020 9:42 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
germanspitz: This is why Galrads . Just one example of inequality between men and women in the workplace.

Inequity in pay is not always along gender lines. I sued my employer for position and pay equity which I wanted in 1994. Took it as far as a federal court of appeals and won. Luckily I had a good attorney. I could have complained about reverse discrimination but chose to take the higher ground. wave
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Feb 15, 2020 9:43 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
germanspitz: No comment on what FBI stands for
Full Blood Italian laugh
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Feb 15, 2020 9:45 AM CST What is feminism?
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
galrads: I’d like to know why the need for feminist exist today. Women are way ahead of men in most things today in the USA. By way ahead I mean... quality jobs, college educations, acquisitions, savings, multiple relationships, better cars and homes, more frequent quality vacations etc
Perhaps the job won't be finished until you have a woman President. dunno
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Feb 15, 2020 9:47 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads: Full Blood Italian
Thank goodness for that I thought it might have meant Full Blown Idiot as there are so many of them about these days,rolling on the floor laughing hug
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Feb 15, 2020 9:49 AM CST What is feminism?
HarbalEsquire: Perhaps the job won't be finished until you have a woman President.
Lots of inequality in American politics Harbalhandshake
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Feb 15, 2020 9:53 AM CST What is feminism?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
germanspitz: Thank goodness for that I thought it might have meant Full Blown Idiot as there are so many of them about these days,
Gee my last gf said I was that after I worked up the courage and told her I was tired of only opening her book and reading from it, never read from our book much and never mine.

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