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Feb 22, 2020 3:43 PM CST Guitar Players
If you have a stereo delay, there is a trick to make it sound like its modulated. Run it in mono and separate the two times by 1 - 3 or 4 milliseconds, the slight time variation will give the delayed sounds a modulated sound, the longer the time between the two delays, the more pronounced the effect is. I have my delay set up like it.
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Feb 22, 2020 3:54 PM CST Guitar Players
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Track16: If you have a stereo delay, there is a trick to make it sound like its modulated. Run it in mono and separate the two times by 1 - 3 or 4 milliseconds, the slight time variation will give the delayed sounds a modulated sound, the longer the time between the two delays, the more pronounced the effect is. I have my delay set up like it.
Ahhh hahaha i did something like this growing up listening to new jimi hendrix releases. Really added something good to he ‘purple haze’ laugh



Excuse me while I kiss the sky head banger
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Feb 22, 2020 4:42 PM CST Guitar Players
galrads: Ahhh hahaha i did something like this growing up listening to new jimi hendrix releases. Really added something good to he ‘purple haze’



Excuse me while I kiss the sky
There are all sorts of tricks with common pedals you can use to make them do something they were not designed to do. Distortion was originally a undesired thing when the tubes would get bad in the old amps until someone used it in a song and made it sound good. Next thing you know, the fuzz pedal was born.
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Feb 22, 2020 5:59 PM CST Guitar Players
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
My question for the guitar players, does playing different notes cause some kind of pain? I have noticed it especially with the higher notes, it causes a pained facial expression. Then it goes back to normal play and there's a look of great relief, sometimes a nod or a smile. Maybe the guitar manufacturers could design an instrument thats a bit easier to play.
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Feb 22, 2020 6:16 PM CST Guitar Players
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
pat8lanips: My question for the guitar players, does playing different notes cause some kind of pain? I have noticed it especially with the higher notes, it causes a pained facial expression. Then it goes back to normal play and there's a look of great relief, sometimes a nod or a smile. Maybe the guitar manufacturers could design an instrument thats a bit easier to play.
Try playing E minor A major groove on a four string electric bass like in the Doors Rider on the storm. Easy to do on a keyboard bit not on a bass

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Feb 22, 2020 6:18 PM CST Guitar Players
pat8lanips: My question for the guitar players, does playing different notes cause some kind of pain? I have noticed it especially with the higher notes, it causes a pained facial expression. Then it goes back to normal play and there's a look of great relief, sometimes a nod or a smile. Maybe the guitar manufacturers could design an instrument thats a bit easier to play.
No pain, its expression, we don't even realize we are doing it.
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Feb 22, 2020 9:21 PM CST Guitar Players
Track16: No pain, its expression, we don't even realize we are doing it.
Yep.

Those with no expression are just not that into it. Gimme a good groove and I'll make funny faces for hours.

You should see what I do with the analog pedals, then import into ProTools and reshape.
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Feb 22, 2020 10:00 PM CST Guitar Players
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,867 Posts
You can play guitar without facial expression ... snooty


cool
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Feb 22, 2020 10:15 PM CST Guitar Players
It's called "Showmanship". laugh

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Feb 22, 2020 10:37 PM CST Guitar Players
Almost a requirement for blues....laugh
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Feb 23, 2020 2:48 AM CST Guitar Players
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
I think the Doors were mostly 4 piece, Love her madly did have bass guitar but I think it was just one album. I could be wromg there though. And I don't know if Riders of the storm was on that album or not...

But yeah, I don't mind the guitar facial expressions, just find them curious.
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Feb 23, 2020 2:58 AM CST Guitar Players
Jigsore
JigsoreJigsorePadang Bai, Bali Indonesia42 Posts
My facial expressions when playing usually reflect a bum note.
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Feb 23, 2020 5:23 AM CST Guitar Players
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
pat8lanips: My question for the guitar players, does playing different notes cause some kind of pain? I have noticed it especially with the higher notes, it causes a pained facial expression. Then it goes back to normal play and there's a look of great relief, sometimes a nod or a smile. Maybe the guitar manufacturers could design an instrument thats a bit easier to play.
See the start of Steve Vai's attitude song, his facial expressions are funny.
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Feb 23, 2020 5:28 AM CST Guitar Players
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
I saw a legend with funny facial expressions, it might be Greg Brown or a similar plain sounding name, what a musician.
I also like Stevie Ray Vaughans expressions, one cool cat.
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Feb 23, 2020 6:34 AM CST Guitar Players
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,867 Posts
Don't forget the air guitar players, they have good facial expressions... professor ... rolling on the floor laughing

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Feb 23, 2020 11:33 AM CST Guitar Players
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
pat8lanips: My question for the guitar players, does playing different notes cause some kind of pain? I have noticed it especially with the higher notes, it causes a pained facial expression. Then it goes back to normal play and there's a look of great relief, sometimes a nod or a smile. Maybe the guitar manufacturers could design an instrument thats a bit easier to play.
They're mimmicing the strain that creating that note with their voice would cause.

It's related to muscle memory and flow state and not really thinking about the individual motions.

They think about the sound they want, and their hands are often just coming along for the ride.

It's a bit like typing a password you've typed over and over.

Is becomes one complex motion and you lose the individual key strokes.

You can see this sometimes when a player is asked to slow a phrase down to teach it to someone, and they have difficultly playing it note by note or transcribing it.


As is mentioned here, there is showmanship in some of it of course, but much of it is involuntary.

You often see players moving their tongue about when playing, not much showmanship in that.


There's also some crossover between sound and taste for some people.

Many of the faces pulled make sense if the person is tasting something very sweet or sour.
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Feb 23, 2020 11:35 AM CST Guitar Players
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
I have a keyboard

an acoustic guitar
an electric guitar
a bass guitar
an acoustic bass guitar

still, I can't play a whole songlaugh
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Feb 24, 2020 9:21 AM CST Guitar Players
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
hey look, I can play the C chordgift
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Feb 24, 2020 4:53 PM CST Guitar Players
Stan_147: Yep.

Those with no expression are just not that into it. Gimme a good groove and I'll make funny faces for hours.

You should see what I do with the analog pedals, then import into ProTools and reshape.
I got a old analog delay I wish was stereo, I like the warm distorted delays it makes, its a Boss DM-2 (the real one that everyone wants from the 80s). I guess stereo delay is usually limited to digital delays. I am using the Boss on a aux on my mixer to add a bit of slap back to the vocals at the moment.
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