FAILING EU ( Archived) (30)

May 6, 2020 5:16 AM CST FAILING EU
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
The central bank of the European Union (ECB) is buying debts from countries without the chance for any state to agree with this. The idea is to support the economy, factories and offices can loan money.
So if Italy makes a lot of debts the CEB is paying, actually other countries are paying for the debts Italy is making. (It could be any European country of course).

The Germans now want to stop this or they won't pay anymore.
And they are right. The rules of the ECB are promoting fraud and neglect the budgetary rules of countries. While countries like Germany and The Netherlands behave countries in the south and east of Europe often don't.

East European countries also refuse to take the fair share of the fugetives and send them on to western Europe. They prefer a fine, pay for it, but in the end the west iws paying for most east European countries are getting more money than they are paying to the EU.
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May 6, 2020 5:41 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
I had to laugh, when I read Poland refuses to take any refugees at all. Yet infects the rest of Europe, with their cowboy builders.
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May 6, 2020 6:03 AM CST FAILING EU
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
yeah, UK must be glad with the Brexit. Hope the Netherlands will follow.

The system doesn't work when not all countries have the same rules, same politics, same human rights etc.

Also the difference in salaries is a big issue. Lot of East Europeans come here, work here for a few months or years and then they say they are sick and return to Poland, getting an unemployedment benefit from the Netherlands, and that is twice as much as than when they work in their own country. So they stay at home for 2 years.

Countries where people live should be responsible for the unemployedment benefit, not the country where they worked for some months/years.
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May 6, 2020 6:08 AM CST FAILING EU
when was it ever NOT failing?
It was a 'Hirngespinst' of the "Elite" from the outset!
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May 6, 2020 6:11 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
Conrad73: when was it ever NOT failing?
It was a 'Hirngespinst' of the "Elite" from the outset!
Lefties saw it as a success.
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May 6, 2020 6:14 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3: Lefties saw it as a success.
they see any Totalitarianism as success!laugh
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May 6, 2020 6:17 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
Conrad73: they see any Totalitarianism as success!
I'd better be quite then. We ain't left yet.
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May 6, 2020 6:25 AM CST FAILING EU
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Conrad73: when was it ever NOT failing?
It was a 'Hirngespinst' of the "Elite" from the outset!
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May 6, 2020 6:33 AM CST FAILING EU
Winthrop48
Winthrop48Winthrop48Derby, Western Australia Australia4 Threads 2 Polls 155 Posts
I actually had the vote and voted to leave the E.U.
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May 6, 2020 6:36 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
Winthrop48: I actually had the vote and voted to leave the E.U.
#metoo. I just thank God, I can get an Irish passport. I think that's, having your cake, and eating it.
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May 6, 2020 6:37 AM CST FAILING EU
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Conrad73: they see any Totalitarianism as success!
Always begging for more government control.
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May 6, 2020 6:43 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
CossackCat: Always begging for more government control.
And that still wont be enough
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May 6, 2020 7:43 AM CST FAILING EU
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
The EU will fail in the same way as the Reich. Germans and Italians are too different, you can't have the north doing all the functioning mxed with the Italian job of fascist playboys and style gurus. The trains never did run on time no matter what Mussolini said, sooner or later Germany will be carrying Italy and the other less than white Europeans.
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May 6, 2020 7:47 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
ChesneyChrist: The EU will fail in the same way as the Reich. Germans and Italians are too different, you can't have the north doing all the functioning mxed with the Italian job of fascist playboys and style gurus. The trains never did run on time no matter what Mussolini said, sooner or later Germany will be carrying Italy and the other less than white Europeans.
Well explained, Brainbox
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May 6, 2020 8:20 AM CST FAILING EU
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
The difference between Southern and Eastern Europe is that the East develops. For the latins you get the sense of tourist trap or bust. One way or another we have to be spend money generously because we're in a very good mood or they become more like the Egypt they sort of are
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May 6, 2020 8:30 AM CST FAILING EU
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
PeKaatje: yeah, UK must be glad with the Brexit. Hope the Netherlands will follow.

The system doesn't work when not all countries have the same rules, same politics, same human rights etc.

Also the difference in salaries is a big issue. Lot of East Europeans come here, work here for a few months or years and then they say they are sick and return to Poland, getting an unemployedment benefit from the Netherlands, and that is twice as much as than when they work in their own country. So they stay at home for 2 years.

Countries where people live should be responsible for the unemployedment benefit, not the country where they worked for some months/years.
Bet Mc Donalds is collecting large from you..
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May 6, 2020 8:32 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
Bet Mc Donalds is collecting large from you..[/quoted bet you collect large. From McDonald's. When you open your throat.
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May 6, 2020 8:41 AM CST FAILING EU
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And I've a lot more sympathy for what Eastern Europe went through at the hands of Germans and then of Russians over fascism first and last from the latin charlatan.
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May 6, 2020 8:45 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
ChesneyChrist: And I've a lot more sympathy for what Eastern Europe went through at the hands of Germans and then of Russians over fascism first and last from the latin charlatan.
I've more sympathy, for the people, who have to listen to you.
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May 6, 2020 8:49 AM CST FAILING EU
Terencios3
Terencios3Terencios3Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England UK61 Posts
ChesneyChrist: And I've a lot more sympathy for what Eastern Europe went through at the hands of Germans and then of Russians over fascism first and last from the latin charlatan.
Why pretend. Your thick innit?
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