What Killed Marriage? ( Archived) (55)

May 13, 2020 11:10 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
Rollo Tomassi discusses what he thinks killed marriage and also other things including hypergamy

Why do you think marriage is dead?
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May 13, 2020 11:21 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
Iyyov
IyyovIyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA3 Threads 253 Posts
Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.

Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.

Bottom line, never accept anything less.

Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
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May 13, 2020 11:24 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
Stranger1978HQ
Stranger1978HQStranger1978HQCologne !, Hamburg Germany241 Posts
LeeCharming: Rollo Tomassi discusses what he thinks killed marriage and also other things including hypergamy

Why do you think marriage is dead?
a 2:33:18 duration long video doh
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May 13, 2020 12:49 PM CST What Killed Marriage?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
Stranger1978HQ: a 2:33:18 duration long video
have a few tea breaksidea
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May 13, 2020 4:37 PM CST What Killed Marriage?
TTRacer
TTRacerTTRacerWashington, District of Columbia USA162 Posts
Iyyov: Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.

Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.

Bottom line, never accept anything less.

Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
I agree Rabbi Iyyov... marriage is only dead to those who are divorced or killed their spouse. See you at the synagogue... bring donuts. handshake
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May 14, 2020 2:49 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
AK88_KZ
AK88_KZAK88_KZMilan, Lombardy Italy1 Threads 6 Posts
I am still maintaining single but i am want marry in future, for me , for marring someone i can be my self . he can be himself. Being together with the true way they are at each side is important, no pretending, no egxaggerating.
At least, i think, in marrage, both need accept each other the nature and the way they come.
So before marrage, i think. Showing your partner the true way of me. My sincerity is essential.
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May 14, 2020 2:58 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
AK88_KZ
AK88_KZAK88_KZMilan, Lombardy Italy1 Threads 6 Posts
I am still maintaining single but i am want marry in future, for me , for marring someone with whom i can be my self . and with me he can be himself is at the "equilibrium", i can say it in this way.
Living together with life partner with the true way they are at each side is important, no pretending, no egxaggerating.
At least, i think, in marrage, both need accept each other the nature and the way they come.
So before marrage, i think. When exploring and developing relationship with my marrage partner , i should be true, be nature . be sincere, is essential.
Same for him, love you or not , love me or not, we decide by accepting each other or not.
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May 14, 2020 3:57 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
irish78eyes
irish78eyesirish78eyesMeath/Louth, Louth Ireland22 Threads 6,274 Posts
Iyyov: Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.

Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.

Bottom line, never accept anything less.

Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
thumbs up
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May 14, 2020 6:06 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
well, I guess that the feminism and emancipation doesn't do much good for marriage.
Many women (in my country for sure) first want to build up a good carreer before thinking of marriage and children.
When they are about 40 they decide: oh, there's just a little time, let's have children.

Why is this? Because of capitalism and greed.
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May 14, 2020 6:09 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
Stranger1978HQ
Stranger1978HQStranger1978HQCologne !, Hamburg Germany241 Posts
what killed marriage is capitalism ,capitalism ,capitalism and capitalism
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May 14, 2020 6:24 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
The combination of liberty and options: freedom of choice. The modern world is a world of winners and losers, not the life just happening to you that it was. The society of 5s we all used to be when we had equal opportunities(i.e. no opportunities) and equal outcomes(i.e. nothing worth stealing)has been and gone. Would you be better off in the automatic place of yesterday or under your own ambition today? That's the question.
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May 14, 2020 6:33 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
That's the logic of today which I'm not completely in agreement with. There's something more noble about life when it's not completely on your own terms. Fate teaches people to have patience and staying power.
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May 14, 2020 8:42 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
YouAreHere
YouAreHereYouAreHereEdinburgh, Borders, Scotland UK1 Threads 12 Posts
Iyyov: Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.

Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.

Bottom line, never accept anything less.

Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
We make the choices but women pay the price.
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May 14, 2020 10:59 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
keresem
keresemkeresemCork, Ireland4 Threads 101 Posts
PeKaatje: well, I guess that the feminism and emancipation doesn't do much good for marriage.
Many women (in my country for sure) first want to build up a good carreer before thinking of marriage and children.
When they are about 40 they decide: oh, there's just a little time, let's have children.

Why is this? Because of capitalism and greed.
thumbs up handshake
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May 14, 2020 6:26 PM CST What Killed Marriage?
Iyyov: Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.

Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.

Bottom line, never accept anything less.

Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)


Iyyov


Love your answer thumbs up
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May 14, 2020 9:11 PM CST What Killed Marriage?
Melody1671
Melody1671Melody1671Maracaibo, Zulia Venezuela2,377 Posts
I think the "availability" of divorce makes it harder for people to "stay" committed... Because some people see it as an easy way out... My parents were married for 54 years until my Dad passed... And both of my sisters have been married for over 25 years, each... So, it's also about your values, beliefs, willingness to commit... Anyway, that's just my humble opinion... bouquet
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May 15, 2020 7:08 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
MustangWriter
MustangWriterMustangWriterBoerne, Texas USA242 Threads 3 Polls 1,762 Posts
Iyyov: Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.

Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.

Bottom line, never accept anything less.

Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
As Noah brought the animals two by two, both male and female into the ark to be transported to a clean paradisiacal world... So does Christ bring us two by two both male and female into the Ark of the Covent of Marriage to be transferred to a celestial world. Shalom.
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May 15, 2020 7:09 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
MustangWriter
MustangWriterMustangWriterBoerne, Texas USA242 Threads 3 Polls 1,762 Posts
MustangWriter: As Noah brought the animals two by two, both male and female into the ark to be transported to a clean paradisiacal world... So does Christ bring us two by two both male and female into the Ark of the Covent of Marriage to be transferred to a celestial world. Shalom.
*Covenant of Marriage.

It's early... I need more coffee.
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May 15, 2020 7:47 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Iyyov: Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.

Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.

Bottom line, never accept anything less.

Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
Sad situation... though what exactly do the women fall prey to?
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May 15, 2020 9:28 AM CST What Killed Marriage?
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Stranger1978HQ: what killed marriage is capitalism ,capitalism ,capitalism and capitalism
Says the parrot...
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