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May 22, 2020 12:11 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
The UK government has decided children can go back to school from June 1st.

Is this wise?


More than half of parents in England will not send their children back to school even if they reopen before the end of the current academic year, exclusive polling for ITV News has shown.

Almost two thirds of parents say they feel it would be "unsafe" to send their child back to school before the summer holidays as the coronavirus crisis continues.

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Health concerns for their children is also a major worry for most parents (82 per cent) if they return before the end of the 2019-20 academic year, with just 16 per cent saying they had no concerns for their child's heath once they return to a classroom.

Polling carried out for ITV News also showed that most parents believe teachers (53 per cent) should have a greater say than the Government (27 per cent) on whether schools should be reopened.



Nearly two-thirds (60 per cent) of parents think it is unsafe to send their children back to school, while 35 per cent believe it is safe.
The vast majority of parents are concerned about their children’s health if they have to return to primary school before the end of the year. This includes four in five fathers (79 per cent) and nearly nine in ten mothers (86 per cent).
More than four out of five (82 per cent) of parents sympathise with teachers if they refuse to return to work, while just 13 per cent say they do not sympathise with teaching staff.
Most parents believe teachers (53 per cent) should have the biggest say on whether primary schools reopen, while 50 per cent of parents believe they should have more of a say than scientific advisers (37 per cent), teaching unions (29 per cent), the Government (27 per cent) and local authorities (21 per cent).
More than half (57 per cent) of parents believe that reopening schools will lead to an increase in Covid-19 cases.
Fifty-two per cent of parents believe thorough deep cleaning of schools is the most important aspect to implement when reopening schools. Forty per cent believe social distancing is important, while 39 per cent said antibody tests are necessary.
Mothers (57 per cent) are more likely than fathers (47 per cent) to prioritise a thorough deep cleaning of schools.

What do you think.
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May 22, 2020 12:58 PM CST Back to School
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
I think people need germs...
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May 22, 2020 1:00 PM CST Back to School
Cranky_Geezer
Cranky_GeezerCranky_GeezerPatchogue, New York USA29 Threads 1 Polls 2,239 Posts
mikey4691: I think people need germs...
Yes. You should line people up and let them cough all over you.
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May 22, 2020 1:04 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
mikey4691: I think people need germs...
there'a technical difference between germs and viruses or should i say biological difference.

But i wouldn't expect you to know thatprofessor grin
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May 22, 2020 1:05 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Cranky_Geezer: Yes. You should line people up and let them cough all over you.
sounds like a plan , you two first.laugh laugh
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May 22, 2020 1:06 PM CST Back to School
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
Cranky_Geezer: Yes. You should line people up and let them cough all over you.
It would probably make me stronger, or make me dead.. People are acting like they never had a freakin virus before?? Give me a break..
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May 22, 2020 1:12 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
mikey4691: It would probably make me stronger, or make me dead.. People are acting like they never had a freakin virus before?? Give me a break..
It would probably make you dead, but you're not a child you're an old man sniffing around the younger women on herescold laugh
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May 22, 2020 1:13 PM CST Back to School
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
They are talking about bussing this fall. They are thinking 10 students max per sixty-foot bus. So, the schools will need approximately 4 more buses for every one they have now, considering most of our busses carry 54 students at a time. Then you have 4 times the cost for fuel and maintenance and additional drivers, just to start.

This is madness. How can we afford this. Our society is going to heck because of who.
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May 22, 2020 1:16 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
galrads: They are talking about bussing this fall. They are thinking 10 students max per sixty-foot bus. So, the schools will need approximately 4 more buses for every one they have now, considering most of our busses carry 54 students at a time. Then you have 4 times the cost for fuel and maintenance and additional drivers, just to start.

This is madness. How can we afford this. Our society is going to heck because of who.
You are nodoubt right Gal, but I was thinking about the cost in human lives.laugh
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May 22, 2020 1:19 PM CST Back to School
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
tomcatty: It would probably make you dead, but you're not a child you're an old man sniffing around the younger women on here
Haven't sniffed one so far...Working on it..drinking
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May 22, 2020 1:33 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
mikey4691: Makes you stronger or it makes you dead.. That's true.. I for one am tired of looking at masks.. Call me whatever makes you feel better..
I'm not going to call you anything, but you haven't addressed any of the isues that 70% of parents are concerned about. Don't you like children???
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May 22, 2020 1:40 PM CST Back to School
Cranky_Geezer
Cranky_GeezerCranky_GeezerPatchogue, New York USA29 Threads 1 Polls 2,239 Posts
galrads: Maybe we all should get our minds on something else like eating something healthy..
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May 22, 2020 1:41 PM CST Back to School
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
tomcatty: That sounds more reasonable, yes i have a life, and value the friends i have male and female but some of my female friends have young children and they are cocerned with this issues
You’ve shown photos before. We know they are not your kids because they don’t have tails. laugh
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May 22, 2020 1:50 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
galrads: You’ve shown photos before. We know they are not your kids because they don’t have tails.
We all have small tails my dear, throwback from the days when we really did have tails, but my children are normal.

i know we banter a bit Gal and you being a vulnerable person deserves some attention. All the homeless people have been taken off the streets in the UK.
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May 22, 2020 4:49 PM CST Back to School
mikey4691: I think people need germs...
there is more truth to this than many people might think. Antibodies are designed to fight...I realize that this can be hard for some to wrap their head around.professor
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May 22, 2020 4:56 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
rohaan: there is more truth to this than many people might think. Antibodies are designed to fight...I realize that this can be hard for some to wrap their head around.
that's no good if the virus kills you first, hence vaccines, sorry did i wake you up. the herd immunty theory may work at great cost
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May 22, 2020 5:17 PM CST Back to School
Taralyn
TaralynTaralynFunk Island, Newfoundland Canada3 Threads 907 Posts
In Newfoundland, schools were closed on March 8th and the announcement was made on March 10th or 11th that they would be closed for the rest of the 2019-20 school year.
An announcement was made last week that due to the expected second wave of covid-19 possibly in September, schools would remain closed until January 2021 but the curriculum would be taught via distance learning.
Are our kids now less immune to germs and viruses than we were at their age? Yes, they can't build up an immunity to anything if they are constantly being bombarded with sanitizer and anti-whatever soaps and sprays. Unless the kids are subjected to some illnesses, they never will. I don't mean we throw them into a vat of whatever bug or germ is available but keeping all kids at home is not a viable option either.
No matter how you view it, it's all going to be a matter of dollars and sense.
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May 22, 2020 5:45 PM CST Back to School
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Yes to primary school but then I never would have closed them. And I would like to see big school open where parents take drugs, the town has a lot of problems.
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May 22, 2020 6:00 PM CST Back to School
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
My daughter (in England) is definitely not sending her 2 children back to school. Her daughter who is autistic went ballistic when my daughter asked her to try and put a mask on. My daughter and her partner are "key workers" but luckily can work around each other. Schools here in Spain closed on 13th March when we started our strict lock down. They won't be going back to school until September. We are going through 4 phases now trying to ease our lock down. This will carry on until 25th June or even longer if we start to "spike" again and will be put back down to Phase zero. We all have our own opinions and I think it's up to parents to choose whether they want to send their kids back to school or not.
I read today that the Uk is now saying that anyone going into the Country from 8th June have to "quarantine" for 14 days. "I'm not doing copy and paste" but yet I can go and stay with my daughter and family and quarantine there?. What happened to the quarantining of all the "immigrants" that were flown from Greece to the Uk (not Greek immigrants) What about the boats loaded with immigrants out in the sea and have to be rescued because it's inhumane to leave them out there. Where are they going to "self isolate"?

Sorry, I went off topic there. I just look at the statistics every day. I'm getting pissed off with our lock down too but I don't want to get the virus at my old age and I wouldn't want to pass it on either. It's not a case of the survival of the *fittest* This virus attacks anyone, young and old.....crying
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May 22, 2020 6:12 PM CST Back to School
Butin
ButinButinIngatestone, Essex, England UK17 Threads 1,900 Posts
Sending. Kids. Back to school. Is bloody crazy......it. Just shows. The mindless. Idiots. Who run. This country...jmoprofessor professor very mad
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