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May 22, 2020 6:12 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Miss_Cellaneous: My daughter (in England) is definitely not sending her 2 children back to school. Her daughter who is autistic went ballistic when my daughter asked her to try and put a mask on. My daughter and her partner are "key workers" but luckily can work around each other. Schools here in Spain closed on 13th March when we started our strict lock down. They won't be going back to school until September. We are going through 4 phases now trying to ease our lock down. This will carry on until 25th June or even longer if we start to "spike" again and will be put back down to Phase zero. We all have our own opinions and I think it's up to parents to choose whether they want to send their kids back to school or not.
I read today that the Uk is now saying that anyone going into the Country from 8th June have to "quarantine" for 14 days. "I'm not doing copy and paste" but yet I can go and stay with my daughter and family and quarantine there?. What happened to the quarantining of all the "immigrants" that were flown from Greece to the Uk (not Greek immigrants) What about the boats loaded with immigrants out in the sea and have to be rescued because it's inhumane to leave them out there. Where are they going to "self isolate"?

Sorry, I went off topic there. I just look at the statistics every day. I'm getting pissed off with our lock down too but I don't want to get the virus at my old age and I wouldn't want to pass it on either. It's not a case of the survival of the *fittest* This virus attacks anyone, young and old.....
God bless you darling i will pray for you
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May 22, 2020 6:35 PM CST Back to School
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Yes to primary school but then I never would have closed them. And I would like to see big school open where parents take drugs, the town has a lot of problems.
I'm trying to understand the "last bit of your comment" Where parents take drugs? Could you please elaborate on what you mean by that statement?
Do you have kids CC? if so, would you risk their lives by sending them back to school after being protected during the Uk lock down? What's the difference between "primary schools and secondary schools? They are still kids in my eyes. You wouldn't have closed them anyway?. Ok that's your opinion but look at the Uk now. I understand that some people don't care, they're sick of being locked down, it's a case of "Every man for himself" I just call that "selfish" A case of "I'm ok Jack" comes to mind. No one is better than anyone else. We all deserve to live........Look at these statistics now. Spain was the 2nd worst Country in the WORLD 8 weeks ago. America wasn't even on the list way back then. Things sure do change..........And yes! I'm very proud of Spain and what we've achieved. Can you say that of the Uk?





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May 22, 2020 8:46 PM CST Back to School
tomcatty: that's no good if the virus kills you first, hence vaccines, sorry did i wake you up. the herd immunty theory may work at great cost
No I’m not asleep...that was uncalled for. I get the whole picture. I have a degree in biology and worked as a practical nurse. I don’t believe I’ve ever been disrespectful to you. I deserve the same courtesy. handshake
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May 22, 2020 8:48 PM CST Back to School
Taralyn: In Newfoundland, schools were closed on March 8th and the announcement was made on March 10th or 11th that they would be closed for the rest of the 2019-20 school year.
An announcement was made last week that due to the expected second wave of covid-19 possibly in September, schools would remain closed until January 2021 but the curriculum would be taught via distance learning.
Are our kids now less immune to germs and viruses than we were at their age? Yes, they can't build up an immunity to anything if they are constantly being bombarded with sanitizer and anti-whatever soaps and sprays. Unless the kids are subjected to some illnesses, they never will. I don't mean we throw them into a vat of whatever bug or germ is available but keeping all kids at home is not a viable option either.
No matter how you view it, it's all going to be a matter of dollars and sense.
spot on. thumbs up
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May 22, 2020 9:08 PM CST Back to School
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
tomcatty: God bless you darling i will pray for you
Tommy. You don't need to pray for me as I'm adhering to our lock down so I'm staying safe. Maybe you need some prayers saying for you seeing that you must be at least 10 years older than me and not adhering to your lock down. When I die, it certainly won't be by covid 19, can you say the same? grin
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May 23, 2020 5:26 AM CST Back to School
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And primary schools do tend to be much more local so there's a logistical ease in re-opening, they don't swap classrooms or teachers and considering it's summer why not hold more lessons in the playground?

The youngest children, the youngest parents, that live in the town, and the town is working class or lower. These things all lean towards re-opening.
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May 23, 2020 5:39 AM CST Back to School
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Another reason to lean towards working re-opening the working class is youth. Shield the ones with known health conditions obviously - don't send their kids to school - but capitalise on the fact that chav parents are younger. There aren't that many IVF babies in the great mass of the people.
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May 23, 2020 6:22 AM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Another reason to lean towards working re-opening the working class is youth. Shield the ones with known health conditions obviously - don't send their kids to school - but capitalise on the fact that chav parents are younger. There aren't that many IVF babies in the great mass of the people.
one of the problems is virus carrying youngsters, although a lot of young people get only mild symtoms, but can still carry the virus which can kill older people. My cleaners young daughter ( 6 years old) starts back on the 1st June, she could pick up the virus and could pass it to her mother and then to me. It's not worth the risk to me , and cosequently her mother loses part of her income.

The school year is nearly over, it would be better for them to start back in September when the situation may be different.
by the way she is a lovely little girl and my surrogate grand daughter. No fault of hers and i feel protective towards her.
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May 23, 2020 9:54 AM CST Back to School
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Miss_Cellaneous: Tommy. You don't need to pray for me as I'm adhering to our lock down so I'm staying safe. Maybe you need some prayers saying for you seeing that you must be at least 10 years older than me and not adhering to your lock down. When I die, it certainly won't be by covid 19, can you say the same?
You'd have to be pretty stupid not to play by the rules, i guess i'll pray for someone else, who appreciates 100% gold plated prayerslaugh laugh laugh laugh bouquet
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May 24, 2020 6:48 PM CST Back to School
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
tomcatty: one of the problems is virus carrying youngsters, although a lot of young people get only mild symtoms, but can still carry the virus which can kill older people. My cleaners young daughter ( 6 years old) starts back on the 1st June, she could pick up the virus and could pass it to her mother and then to me. It's not worth the risk to me , and cosequently her mother loses part of her income.

The school year is nearly over, it would be better for them to start back in September when the situation may be different.
by the way she is a lovely little girl and my surrogate grand daughter. No fault of hers and i feel protective towards her.
I totally agree with you Tommy. Young children are now actually dying with this so called C19/Kawasaki disease. It's like a mixture of both put together. Kawasaki has not been heard of for years. Now it's raising it's ugly head combined with Cov19. amongst young children
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My daughter will not send her 2 children back to school in June and neither will my son who has 4 children of school age. We cannot risk children's lives. If some people don't have kids or grandkids then they wouldn't know how we feel. They are our next generationthumbs up
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May 24, 2020 6:59 PM CST Back to School
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
tomcatty: You'd have to be pretty stupid not to play by the rules, i guess i'll pray for someone else, who appreciates 100% gold plated prayers
Awww Tommy. You're funny "sometimes" grin I'm not stupid and I play by the rules. That's what's keeping me alive in my old age. I'm too young to die with this virus. Not trying to be condescending. Text can be taken the wrong way sometimes handshake
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May 25, 2020 2:48 PM CST Back to School
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
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Jul 21, 2020 7:00 AM CST Back to School
Tygralanim
TygralanimTygralanimManhasset, New York USA2 Posts
I am against the idea that children need and can go back to school until the dynamics of the pandemic decline or at least some antidote is made against the virus. I know it sounds utopian today, but we are talking about the lives of people, which are valuable automatically. I go to college and stay home so I don't put anyone in danger. It's my second year in college, I like the process of study, the subjects I study and in general student life, communication with the guys, it's great. The only thing I don't really like is a lot of homework in some subjects. It's great that the company can do my college homework quickly, qualitatively and not very expensive. It really helps me a lot, as more time is left on the hobby.
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Jul 21, 2020 7:26 AM CST Back to School
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
tomcatty: I'm not going to call you anything, but you haven't addressed any of the isues that 70% of parents are concerned about. Don't you like children???
laugh Where in the hell did that come from, of course I like kids.. WTF is wrong with you, Old Man?? comfort
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Jul 21, 2020 8:10 AM CST Back to School
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
tomcatty: The UK government has decided children can go back to school from June 1st.

Is this wise?


More than half of parents in England will not send their children back to school even if they reopen before the end of the current academic year, exclusive polling for ITV News has shown.

Almost two thirds of parents say they feel it would be "unsafe" to send their child back to school before the summer holidays as the coronavirus crisis continues.

Too early to reopen schools on June 1, leading scientist group says
How do plans to reopen schools differ across the UK?

Health concerns for their children is also a major worry for most parents (82 per cent) if they return before the end of the 2019-20 academic year, with just 16 per cent saying they had no concerns for their child's heath once they return to a classroom.

Polling carried out for ITV News also showed that most parents believe teachers (53 per cent) should have a greater say than the Government (27 per cent) on whether schools should be reopened.



Nearly two-thirds (60 per cent) of parents think it is unsafe to send their children back to school, while 35 per cent believe it is safe.
The vast majority of parents are concerned about their children’s health if they have to return to primary school before the end of the year. This includes four in five fathers (79 per cent) and nearly nine in ten mothers (86 per cent).
More than four out of five (82 per cent) of parents sympathise with teachers if they refuse to return to work, while just 13 per cent say they do not sympathise with teaching staff.
Most parents believe teachers (53 per cent) should have the biggest say on whether primary schools reopen, while 50 per cent of parents believe they should have more of a say than scientific advisers (37 per cent), teaching unions (29 per cent), the Government (27 per cent) and local authorities (21 per cent).
More than half (57 per cent) of parents believe that reopening schools will lead to an increase in Covid-19 cases.
Fifty-two per cent of parents believe thorough deep cleaning of schools is the most important aspect to implement when reopening schools. Forty per cent believe social distancing is important, while 39 per cent said antibody tests are necessary.
Mothers (57 per cent) are more likely than fathers (47 per cent) to prioritise a thorough deep cleaning of schools.

What do you think.
Well..given everyone is fighting and squabbling to protect their own interests..and not giving a thought to anyone else....this virus aint going away anytime soon...and it's going to take a lot more lives before it dies or your government cop on..it's the same in the US and Brazil....god I'm so glad we have a decent government who put the people first and not money...
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