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May 26, 2020 2:38 PM CST the power of the oil industry
In the Netherlands Shell and Exxon are drilling for gas. Due to that fact they are causing earthquakes and damaged houses. People are waiting for over 20 years sometimes to get money to fix the damage.
The oilcompanies first hired someone to work for them and go and look at the houses that where damaged, offering the people less money than they need to fix their houses. Finally the state decided to pay.

So the dutch state claimed that Shell and Exxon has to stop drilling for gas, and now these companies demand several 100's of millions of euros from the dutch state. They already got 90.000.000 euro's.

wtf, if I have a company causing damage the state may claim I have to stop and ask me to pay for the damage. Or where there made such stupid contracts that the whole nation is facked?

Boycot shell and exxon
May 26, 2020 3:43 PM CST the power of the oil industry
OMG,OP,you're so smart!rolling on the floor laughing
May 26, 2020 3:47 PM CST the power of the oil industry
Oxycodone
OxycodoneOxycodoneHove, East Sussex, England UK151 Posts
PeKaatje: In the Netherlands Shell and Exxon are drilling for gas. Due to that fact they are causing earthquakes and damaged houses. People are waiting for over 20 years sometimes to get money to fix the damage.
The oilcompanies first hired someone to work for them and go and look at the houses that where damaged, offering the people less money than they need to fix their houses. Finally the state decided to pay.

So the dutch state claimed that Shell and Exxon has to stop drilling for gas, and now these companies demand several 100's of millions of euros from the dutch state. They already got 90.000.000 euro's.

wtf, if I have a company causing damage the state may claim I have to stop and ask me to pay for the damage. Or where there made such stupid contracts that the whole nation is facked?

Boycot shell and exxon
Well that’s just business as usual with those heavy weights. Nothing new.
May 26, 2020 4:20 PM CST the power of the oil industry
keresem
keresemkeresemCork, Ireland4 Threads 138 Posts
Conrad73: OMG,OP,you're so smart!
I guess you don't have this kind of problem, do you?
May 26, 2020 5:07 PM CST the power of the oil industry
keresem: I guess you don't have this kind of problem, do you?
wasn't talking to you!
May 27, 2020 2:56 AM CST the power of the oil industry
keresem
keresemkeresemCork, Ireland4 Threads 138 Posts
Conrad73: wasn't talking to you!
a logical answer confused, just asked
May 27, 2020 3:16 AM CST the power of the oil industry
PeKaatje: In the Netherlands Shell and Exxon are drilling for gas. Due to that fact they are causing earthquakes and damaged houses. People are waiting for over 20 years sometimes to get money to fix the damage.
The oil companies first hired someone to work for them and go and look at the houses that where damaged, offering the people less money than they need to fix their houses. Finally the state decided to pay.

So the dutch state claimed that Shell and Exxon has to stop drilling for gas, and now these companies demand several 100's of millions of euros from the dutch state. They already got 90.000.000 euro's.

wtf, if I have a company causing damage the state may claim I have to stop and ask me to pay for the damage. Or where there made such stupid contracts that the whole nation is facked?

Boycot shell and exxon
you do know that they sell oil and gas to others - so it doesnt really matter at was gas pump you get your fuel
May 27, 2020 4:56 AM CST the power of the oil industry
well, yesterday saw in the news that shell uses water to get the oil out of the ground and the poisoned water is pumped back into the ground 100 km's further to the south.
The oil and gasfield is along the Dutch/German Border and they used to pump the water into the ground just on the other side of the border, but a leak caused big damage to the nature and the area.

The area where they now dump the poisoned water is against it, every citizen, politician from the cities and the region are against it, but the dutch government overrules them.
It's the cheapest way to get rid of the poison. Shell claims it is safe, and they say they investigate the whole proces. The citizens aren't comfortable and they hired an independent investigationcompany. But just the day before the company would start investigating they called the people from that village that shell had hired them for a different project.
Shell says that they are telling the truth to the people, but all they say is that it is safe and that they control it. They don't say what poison they put into the ground or what are the risks of getting an accident.
There are different ways to get rid of the poisonned water, by cleaning it, but shell says that this costs to much money. For a company that makes billions of dollars...

Shell is known for poisonning big areas in Nigeria and Curacao. I guess there are a lot more area's they've destroyed.
They claim to be a fan of the climate convention, but they spend millions of dollars to benefit the anti-climate lobby.
They have a pesticide factory in Brasil causing cancer and impotence to the employees and the people living in that area.
They also caused a naturedisaster when an oiltanker op them hit a german ship and 5400 square meters of oil leaked into the sea. After a week they quitted the cleaning saying it wasn't that dirty. It costed the local area lots of money, the fishermen couldn't go fishing anymore.
In the philipines the human rights commision is investigating the 47 biggest polluters, shell is one of them, and they try to stop the commission.
And everywhere in the world where they have to stand trial they frustrate the proces and they causes that the whole project takes 10's of years.
Shell even tells children they would love clean cars and let children draw clean cars, but they never will try to get cars that don't use oil or gas.
May 27, 2020 5:23 AM CST the power of the oil industry
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,199 Posts
Don't drill into a densely populated vanishing piece of land.
May 27, 2020 6:20 AM CST the power of the oil industry
Well, that is not the issue in the Netherlands.
Groningen is a province with one bigger city and several smaller villages and a lot of farmland.
Jun 3, 2020 11:36 AM CST the power of the oil industry
I tend to agree with the OP.
Having worked in the petroleum industry I've often thought the oil that is being taken out of the ground is a lubricant for differing plates of earth. Sure oil companies pump in "mud" (not real mud but rather a chemical compound called 'mud') to take the place of oil.. and will it suffice in the friction caused by the plates moving?
Only time will tell.
Jun 3, 2020 4:36 PM CST the power of the oil industry
Thanks MW.
Jun 3, 2020 8:54 PM CST the power of the oil industry
PeKaatje: Thanks MW.
It's cool friend. cheers
We all have differing opinions and can disagree... however if our opinions are consistent, we will often find common ground.
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