Michel Barnier warns Brexit deal is ‘unlikely’ as he accuses UK of being ‘unwilling to break the dea (20)
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EU,the Epitome of Hotel California!
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They say that to soup with the devil you need a long spoon!
But to soup with the EU,there is no spoon long enough!
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The Prime Minister also stated three red lines:
no role for the European Court of Justice in the UK;
the right to determine future UK laws without constraints and;
an agreement on fisheries that shows that Brexit makes a real difference compared to the existing situation.
So up your nose EU.
no role for the European Court of Justice in the UK;
the right to determine future UK laws without constraints and;
an agreement on fisheries that shows that Brexit makes a real difference compared to the existing situation.
So up your nose EU.
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Conrad73: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/07/25/eu-wants-deal-solution-simple-fire-michel-barnier/
EU,the Epitome of Hotel California!
Good song.. I was living in, Fort Lauderdale , when I first heard it, along with, Life in the fast lane... EU,the Epitome of Hotel California!
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From day one of the talks only a fool would think that there will be any chance of an agreement between both sides, unless one side surrenders to the other side. We must not give into the thugs called the eu as we will not be free from them if we did.
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Conrad73: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/07/25/eu-wants-deal-solution-simple-fire-michel-barnier/
EU,the Epitome of Hotel California!
Someways, michel barnier is between the devil and the deep blue sea as if he agreed to give us back the sole right to our waters, countries like france wouldn't sign the agreement because they will still want to be able to fish in out waters with us having no control over them doing this so it will still be a no deal.EU,the Epitome of Hotel California!
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tomcatty: The Prime Minister also stated three red lines:
no role for the European Court of Justice in the UK;
the right to determine future UK laws without constraints and;
an agreement on fisheries that shows that Brexit makes a real difference compared to the existing situation.
So up your nose EU.
Problem is the E.U. has to consider all it's member states whereas we are now looking after No.1 and not conforming like we have in the past.no role for the European Court of Justice in the UK;
the right to determine future UK laws without constraints and;
an agreement on fisheries that shows that Brexit makes a real difference compared to the existing situation.
So up your nose EU.
Still hope something can be resolved but it's not looking too good.
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Oh, it's about fishing.
My understanding is that UK fishing quota holders sold those quotas, because they didn't want to do hard and dirty work, that fishing is, but wanted money. What would they do if they get back the quotas they don't want?
My understanding is that UK fishing quota holders sold those quotas, because they didn't want to do hard and dirty work, that fishing is, but wanted money. What would they do if they get back the quotas they don't want?
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Tulefell: Oh, it's about fishing.
My understanding is that UK fishing quota holders sold those quotas, because they didn't want to do hard and dirty work, that fishing is, but wanted money. What would they do if they get back the quotas they don't want?
The E.U took over 60% of British waters depleting our fishing industry.My understanding is that UK fishing quota holders sold those quotas, because they didn't want to do hard and dirty work, that fishing is, but wanted money. What would they do if they get back the quotas they don't want?
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Tulefell: Oh, it's about fishing.
My understanding is that UK fishing quota holders sold those quotas, because they didn't want to do hard and dirty work, that fishing is, but wanted money. What would they do if they get back the quotas they don't want?
My understanding is that UK fishing quota holders sold those quotas, because they didn't want to do hard and dirty work, that fishing is, but wanted money. What would they do if they get back the quotas they don't want?
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well, I understood the EU wanted a deal with only their interest be taken care off, the UK isn't stupid.
God bless the queen, she ain't no human being.
God bless the queen, she ain't no human being.
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germanspitz: The E.U took over 60% of British waters depleting our fishing industry.
UK was member of EU for 40 years, participated in all decisions and had a veto right. How could it happened that "EU took over" something or other? "Many parts of the quota were sold by English fishermen in the 1990s..." says BBC.
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Tulefell: UK was member of EU for 40 years, participated in all decisions and had a veto right. How could it happened that "EU took over" something or other?
"Many parts of the quota were sold by English fishermen in the 1990s..." says BBC.
Yes but it was on a personal level rather than a national one."Many parts of the quota were sold by English fishermen in the 1990s..." says BBC.
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Tulefell: UK was member of EU for 40 years, participated in all decisions and had a veto right. How could it happened that "EU took over" something or other?
"Many parts of the quota were sold by English fishermen in the 1990s..." says BBC.
Taken from reference above"Many parts of the quota were sold by English fishermen in the 1990s..." says BBC.
Current rules say even if vessels are 100% foreign-owned, they must have an "economic link" to the UK. That means they must meet one of five conditions, which include landing more than half their catch at UK ports or having majority British crews.
In March, Environment Secretary George Eustice said planned changes under the Fisheries Bill will ensure foreign-owned boats "are required to land more of their catch in UK ports, and return more economic benefit to the UK".
He added: "In future any foreign company that wanted to buy vessels in the UK might well be able to, but it would be subject to that new condition."
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germanspitz: The E.U took over 60% of British waters depleting our fishing industry.
I was watching a really interesting documentary on TG4 about electric fishing the other night....all the small fishermen..UK, french, Irish are (and have to ) working together to take on the big fishing interests who're using the electric fishing...and the EU is stuck in the middle..Apparently the Netherlands were the worst offenders, the limit was set at 5% of fishing fleet that could use electric fishing..however the Netherlands were up at some crazy %, 86 I think...so breaking all rules and regulations....
The fishermen were saying the only way to get it banned was by their working together....but now UK fishermen won't have a voice anymore...and they are worried...very worried...
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blathin2:
The fishermen were saying the only way to get it banned was by their working together....but now UK fishermen won't have a voice anymore...and they are worried...very worried...
After 31 Dec, it's up to us who fishes in our waters.The fishermen were saying the only way to get it banned was by their working together....but now UK fishermen won't have a voice anymore...and they are worried...very worried...
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germanspitz: Taken from reference above
Current rules say even if vessels are 100% foreign-owned, they must have an "economic link" to the UK. That means they must meet one of five conditions, which include landing more than half their catch at UK ports or having majority British crews.
Well... I thought, that if somebody bought a fishing quota from UK quota holder, it is indeed "economic link". And what would be a point in landing a lot of fish, that British consumers don't want?Current rules say even if vessels are 100% foreign-owned, they must have an "economic link" to the UK. That means they must meet one of five conditions, which include landing more than half their catch at UK ports or having majority British crews.
Nonetheless, it's more emotional question, than economical, so it's only to wish you all well :)
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Tulefell: Well... I thought, that if somebody bought a fishing quota from UK quota holder, it is indeed "economic link". And what would be a point in landing a lot of fish, that British consumers don't want?
Nonetheless, it's more emotional question, than economical, so it's only to wish you all well :)
We are a nation of fish eaters and fish has become quite pricey recently. There is a global shortage of fish due to overfishing and many fish today are farm sourced. Nonetheless, it's more emotional question, than economical, so it's only to wish you all well :)
North Atlantic Blue tuna are caught in our territorial waters and sold to the Japanese markets mainly by the Spanish and French. This is one of the reasons Barnier is trying to hang on to some form of agreement regards fishing rights. It's a real bone of contention.
Nice chatting to you Tulefell.
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It follows the latest round of talks seeking to agree a “future relationship” deal between the UK and EU beyond 31 December.
Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, said talks remain at a stalemate: “We are still far away.”
At a press conference on Thursday, he accused Boris Johnson’s government of “not showing a willingness to break the deadlock”.
He added: “Over the past few weeks the UK has not shown the same level of engagement and readiness to find solutions respecting the EU fundamental principles and interests.”
Barnier said there had been no progress on two key points: the “level playing field” to ensure fair competition between businesses, and fisheries.
“We have been saying the same thing since the very beginning of these negotiations,” he said.
“They were part and parcel of our engagement with Boris Johnson eight months ago [when the UK and EU agreed a Brexit blueprint]. We are simply asking to translate this political engagement into a legal text, nothing more.