7 shots close range in the back. (268)
snowlynx: Reaching in despite repeated orders to stop?
If I were that cop I might have reacted the same way.
I understand that, but I think the issue is the amount of shots fired. Given that clearly each shot was bound to hit its target, don’t you think the cops motivation was to kill rather than to stop the guy in his tracks?If I were that cop I might have reacted the same way.
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snowlynx: I think that a violent criminal would reach for a gun in those circumstances, kids or no kids.
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mikey4691: The same thing would have happened to a white guy, that was behaving like a loon... It often does... We all go about our business most of the time tho, we know the person that got shot was taken out by Karma... We don't try to turn a thug into a martyr..
Karma doesn't work like that mikey....but that's a different issue.
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@ Bodleing
Hence my opening post mentioning the number of bullets. That smacks of being trigger happy.
Hence my opening post mentioning the number of bullets. That smacks of being trigger happy.
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bodleing2: I understand that, but I think the issue is the amount of shots fired. Given that clearly each shot was bound to hit its target, don’t you think the cops motivation was to kill rather than to stop the guy in his tracks?
Yep I think the cop was in panic mode.
One of the cops in the George Floyd murder had only been out of the police academy a couple days. That would have been okay if he wasn't with a cop who intended to kill Floyd instead of taking him into custody.
Cops are trained that if they fire their weapon it should be with intent to kill.....not intent to stop. I think that is wrong. This cop could have shot Blake in the knee, ankle, arm anything that would have made him stop.
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bodleing2: I understand that, but I think the issue is the amount of shots fired. Given that clearly each shot was bound to hit its target, don’t you think the cops motivation was to kill rather than to stop the guy in his tracks?
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mikey4691: .. They sure will here in the states...
We know that Mickey by the amount of shootings that take place in an on School property. Nothing to be proud of as 65% of those were committed by white people and 21% by black seeing as you are hell bent on bringing colour into the agenda.Back to the topic.
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secretagent09: Yep
I think the cop was in panic mode.
One of the cops in the George Floyd murder had only been out of the police academy a couple days. That would have been okay if he wasn't with a cop who intended to kill Floyd instead of taking him into custody.
Cops are trained that if they fire their weapon it should be with intent to kill.....not intent to stop. I think that is wrong. This cop could have shot Blake in the knee, ankle, arm anything that would have made him stop.
I dunno about all that. Police are taught to shoot for mass especially because there isn't a lot of time usually for precision shooting. In this case the police officers, whether others here agree or not, were concerned about others at the scene being harmed, not just the three children.I think the cop was in panic mode.
One of the cops in the George Floyd murder had only been out of the police academy a couple days. That would have been okay if he wasn't with a cop who intended to kill Floyd instead of taking him into custody.
Cops are trained that if they fire their weapon it should be with intent to kill.....not intent to stop. I think that is wrong. This cop could have shot Blake in the knee, ankle, arm anything that would have made him stop.
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bodleing2: I understand that, but I think the issue is the amount of shots fired. Given that clearly each shot was bound to hit its target, don’t you think the cops motivation was to kill rather than to stop the guy in his tracks?
I can see your point, but wounded men can shoot you too, and that guy was real close to whatever he was reaching for.. 
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galrads: I dunno about all that. Police are taught to shoot for mass especially because there isn't a lot of time usually for precision shooting. In this case the police officers, whether others here agree or not, were concerned about others at the scene being harmed, not just the three children.
Nope Nope NopeThe cops didn't know there were children in the car.
Yes, they are trained to shoot for mass which is in the chest. They didn't shoot for mass. They shot him in the back many times.
The guy was walking away from the scene. If the passenger side of the car had a window open one of those 7 bullets might have gone out the window and hit someone standing around. That cop's agenda was to put Blake down.
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bodleing2: So you believe the cop thought, this guy is reaching into the car and he's black so I'd better kill him?
That's amounts to a racially motivated attempted murder.
If you had to keep guns lying around the place you'd want everyone to be a Japanese woman. A man with tropical blood is the last thing you want if you had to keep guns lying around the place.That's amounts to a racially motivated attempted murder.
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secretagent09: Nope Nope Nope
The cops didn't know there were children in the car.
Yes, they are trained to shoot for mass which is in the chest. They didn't shoot for mass. They shot him in the back many times.
The guy was walking away from the scene. If the passenger side of the car had a window open one of those 7 bullets might have gone out the window and hit someone standing around. That cop's agenda was to put Blake down.
Im not so quick to rush to judgement for many reasons. Some bullets are meant not to exit a body. Police are issued ordinance too. Ballistics are important to prevent collateral damage. Some bullets like ballistic tips and hollow points are designed to penetrate but not exit. Law enforcement officers have a tough job and want to live like everyone else and enjoy their retirement.The cops didn't know there were children in the car.
Yes, they are trained to shoot for mass which is in the chest. They didn't shoot for mass. They shot him in the back many times.
The guy was walking away from the scene. If the passenger side of the car had a window open one of those 7 bullets might have gone out the window and hit someone standing around. That cop's agenda was to put Blake down.
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secretagent09: Nope Nope Nope
The cops didn't know there were children in the car.
Yes, they are trained to shoot for mass which is in the chest. They didn't shoot for mass. They shot him in the back many times.
The guy was walking away from the scene. If the passenger side of the car had a window open one of those 7 bullets might have gone out the window and hit someone standing around. That cop's agenda was to put Blake down.
The police would certainly have known there were kids in the car after the first shot as they were screaming. He never turned his head to look in the back of the car just kept pumping bullets into the victim. That smacks of termination.The cops didn't know there were children in the car.
Yes, they are trained to shoot for mass which is in the chest. They didn't shoot for mass. They shot him in the back many times.
The guy was walking away from the scene. If the passenger side of the car had a window open one of those 7 bullets might have gone out the window and hit someone standing around. That cop's agenda was to put Blake down.
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ChesneyChrist: If you had to keep guns lying around the place you'd want everyone to be a Japanese woman. A man with tropical blood is the last thing you want if you had to keep guns lying around the place.
Has your intellect deserted you ches?
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galrads: Im not so quick to rush to judgement for many reasons. Some bullets are meant not to exit a body. Police are issued ordinance too. Ballistics are important to prevent collateral damage. Some bullets like ballistic tips and hollow points are designed to penetrate but not exit. Law enforcement officers have a tough job and want to live like everyone else and enjoy their retirement.
Whatever bullets were fired they have paralysed him from the waist down providing he makes it and give 3 children nightmares for a very long time.------ This thread is Archived ------
germanspitz: The police would certainly have known there were kids in the car after the first shot as they were screaming. He never turned his head to look in the back of the car just kept pumping bullets into the victim. That smacks of termination.
Spitz, with all due respect, you don't know that he didn't turn his head to look in the back of the car.I didn't even see his head in the video.
I'm not defending the cop but I also think we shouldn't add exaggerated statements to an already bad situation
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secretagent09: Spitz, with all due respect, you don't know that he didn't turn his head to look in the back of the car.
I didn't even see his head in the video.
I'm not defending the cop but I also think we shouldn't add exaggerated statements to an already bad situation
If you look at the video the cop was stood outside the car and he turned once to look at his back up whilst still firing shots into the victim.I didn't even see his head in the video.
I'm not defending the cop but I also think we shouldn't add exaggerated statements to an already bad situation
https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/24/donovan-mitchell-furious-over-jacob-blake-shooting-we-demand-justice/
Surely those kids would have been screaming with fear after the first shot was what I was trying to get across same as the amount of ammo pumped into a man' back to bring him down.
This is my argument NOT that they shot him but the number of bullets ,as some are now saying 8.
Thanks as always for your comments. Secret.
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germanspitz: Hardly violent. Yes he had a record, but do you see that as a right to almost execute him. Do you honestly find it acceptable to shoot a man in the back at close quarters 7 times and now I believe they say it was 8.
He's alive at the moment but paralysed from the waist down Speaks volumes about excessive force to me and totally unnecessary.. That is the point I ma trying to make.
here is something to think about: for a long, long time police officers here in the United States have had a high, high level of “professional career incident immunity”. Perhaps this is changing, but not entirely and not quickly. A standard response during after-event interviews (with said officers”), is ; “I was in fear for my life”. This is just too darned easy—why, anyone could say that if they are startled, hear a noise, see a shadow, etc...THe point being, reform is slow, and obviously there are officers who still feel cavalier about taking a suspect out. You would think with the current situations p.o. would be all the more careful to not be in the wrong. I know several police officers who are entirely top-shelf, wonderful people. If they can be great community assets and role models, it can be done. I also am acutely aware that it is also reasonable that severe action is taken. But NOT in these latest cases.He's alive at the moment but paralysed from the waist down Speaks volumes about excessive force to me and totally unnecessary.. That is the point I ma trying to make.
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germanspitz: Whatever bullets were fired they have paralysed him from the waist down providing he makes it and give 3 children nightmares for a very long time.
It was a tense moment for sure. Why or what was so important that Blake had to get something from his car, under a car seat. Did he want to give the law enforcement officers candy he had stashed there. Does mr blake have a history of carrying armed automatic weapons he could use and spray lead through all of the cops in just a few seconds.... is that what he was going for... .. i don’t know enogh to draw any conclusions yet ... is there a good clear audio file recording what went down.------ This thread is Archived ------
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