UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case ( Archived) (27)

Aug 31, 2020 9:49 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,223 Posts
This is too long to copy and paste therefore I'll post a link as the news article appears in it's original form.


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Aug 31, 2020 6:14 PM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
MustangWriter
MustangWriterMustangWriterBoerne, Texas USA242 Threads 3 Polls 1,762 Posts
Gee. Wouldn't it be the bomb if he died from a drug overdose and all this rioting was for naught.
That said... I do believe the police's qualified immunity needs to be curtailed. Too many enforce laws that they know nothing about.
There's a reason police only have to attend the academy for 6 months training, while barber college is two years.
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Aug 31, 2020 11:58 PM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
well, I guess that whole drugstory is one big lie, or fake news, just to hide the truth.
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Sep 1, 2020 2:01 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
MustangWriter: Gee. Wouldn't it be the bomb if he died from a drug overdose and all this rioting was for naught.
That said... I do believe the police's qualified immunity needs to be curtailed. Too many enforce laws that they know nothing about.
There's a reason police only have to attend the academy for 6 months training, while barber college is two years.
I think you'll find he's already dead ,hence the enquiry.sigh
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Sep 1, 2020 4:05 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
Cops' lawyers make bombshell claims in George Floyd case: Bodycam shows Floyd ingesting fatal amount of drugs before arrest; he died of overdose

Allegations to shake up the case

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Sep 1, 2020 4:34 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
Defense Attorney Eric J. Nelson — lawyer for former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin — said the late George Floyd was the victim of a careless overdose rather than police homicide.

Authorities charged Chauvin with murder in connection with Floyd's May death, which stemmed from an altercation purportedly involving counterfeit money.

In light of the allegations, Nelson is requesting a judge to drop all charges against Chauvin, who has pleaded not guilty.

An attorney for one of the other officers involved in Floyd's death also says bodycam footage shows the moment Floyd reportedly ingested a lethal amount of drugs.
What are the details?

According to a Monday report from ABC News, Nelson filed the motion in Hennepin County, Minnesota, District Court on Friday, alleging that the prosecution has not shown probable cause in charging Chauvin with second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.

In the motion, Chauvin's attorney insists the former police officer carried out Floyd's detainment by the book — including the use of a "Maximal Restraint Technique." Nelson said Chauvin believed the technique was necessary, out of concern that Floyd could harm himself or Chauvin and his fellow officers during the detainment.
Nelson has said that Chauvin and other responding officers were trying to help Floyd — who was clearly acting erratically during the detainment — out of concern for the man and the possibility that he might fall and strike his head, be hit by an oncoming vehicle in the road, and more.

Nelson insisted that the Minneapolis Police Department has approved training materials on such use of force, which shows an officer placing a knee on a subject's neck in order to subdue him.

The motion also noted that the autopsy on Floyd concluded that there was both fentanyl and methamphetamine in the late suspect's system — otherwise known as a "speedball."

Floyd, who suffered from hypertensive heart disease as well as arteriosclerosis and hypertension, also reportedly was positive for COVID-19 at the time of his death.

"Put simply, Mr. Floyd could not breathe because he had ingested a lethal dose of fentanyl and, possibly, a speedball," a portion of the motion read. "Combined with sickle cell trait, his pre-existing heart conditions, Mr. Floyd's use of fentanyl and methamphetamine most likely killed him. Adding fentanyl and methamphetamine to Mr. Floyd's existing health issues was tantamount to lighting a fuse on a bomb."

Further, Hennepin County Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker also added that if Floyd were found dead in any other circumstance — in this case, "home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an ."

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office ruled Floyd's death a homicide, determining that he died because of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

However, the autopsy report found no apparent bruising or trauma to Floyd's neck, neck muscles, or back as a result of the restraint.

Judge Peter Cahill will address Nelson's motion in a Sept. 11 court hearing, the outlet reports.
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Sep 1, 2020 4:37 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
MustangWriter: Gee. Wouldn't it be the bomb if he died from a drug overdose and all this rioting was for naught.
That said... I do believe the police's qualified immunity needs to be curtailed. Too many enforce laws that they know nothing about.
There's a reason police only have to attend the academy for 6 months training, while barber college is two years.
As an afterthought this situation will continue until your country take ALL lives into consideration.handshake

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time

You need some young blood in charge not two old fogies.handshake
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Sep 1, 2020 4:41 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And maybe even a robot jury if the forums are anything to go by. You already know what people are going to say before they say it, it ain't half predictable when people only say a thing when there's something to be got by it.
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Sep 1, 2020 4:43 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
germanspitz: As an afterthought this situation will continue until your country take ALL lives into consideration.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time

You need some young blood in charge not two old fogies.
the old fogie has spokenlaugh laugh laugh
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Sep 1, 2020 4:55 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
tomcatty: the old fogie has spoken
Trolling again I see.

Let's see your birth certificate pensioner.rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 1, 2020 5:05 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
One of the reasons for police brutality in America is the number of guns lying around, clearly it raises the stakes.

And the best are the quislings. Men from Europe so besotted with America theyd have us be more like them even when it's really bad. To come from a green and pleasant land and be Draconian for Draconians sake. There's a reason British police don't do brutality to the same extent and that's because Britain is less dangerous. It would be pointlessly barbaric to hold American attitudes here to be that defensive when much less under threat.
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Sep 1, 2020 6:16 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Improve gun safety technology so that only the registered owner can fire it and train the police to fight like a man. To have fewer guns in the wrong hands requires a police to win a fistfight, the odds of killing someone you didn't need to go way down.
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Sep 1, 2020 8:13 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
In response to: "Put simply, Mr. Floyd could not breathe because he had ingested a lethal dose of fentanyl and, possibly, a speedball. Combined with sickle cell trait, his pre-existing heart conditions, Mr. Floyd's use of fentanyl and methamphetamine most likely killed him," Nelson argued.
So, to help George Floyd out, Derek Chauvin held him down by the neck including for several minutes after he became unresponsive, so that he didn't injure himself, or anyone else.

Is it me...? dunno
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Sep 1, 2020 8:38 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
jac_the_gripper: So, to help George Floyd out, Derek Chauvin held him down by the neck including for several minutes after he became unresponsive, so that he didn't injure himself, or anyone else.

Is it me...?
No Jac, Words fail me sometimes. doh

Hard to deal with some people's mentality when they think so little of others. This post left on the blogs after we posted. Hate to tell him but I'm not a Southpaw I AM right handed.


UK lefties are such comedians. laughlaugh
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Sep 1, 2020 8:53 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
jac_the_gripper: So, to help George Floyd out, Derek Chauvin held him down by the neck including for several minutes after he became unresponsive, so that he didn't injure himself, or anyone else.

Is it me...?
what a mess..

thumbs up thumbs up jac
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Sep 1, 2020 9:46 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
Floyd was a time bomb, with enough drugs in him to stop a horse from breathing.. Pee Wee Herman could have survived everything the cops did to Floyd, and then some, provided Herman was free of Fentanyl, and Meth...

A criminal is now a martyr in this country, and I hope all those who made it possible get their paybacks... doh
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Sep 1, 2020 10:02 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
If someone says he gets no air, just get your knee of his neck. In the video you could hear Floyd saying several times I don't get no air.
The cop got his knee on the neck for several minutes. If someone is overdosed, you want to get him in hospital asap
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Sep 1, 2020 10:14 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
mikey4691: Floyd was a time bomb, with enough drugs in him to stop a horse from breathing.. Pee Wee Herman could have survived everything the cops did to Floyd, and then some, provided Herman was free of Fentanyl, and Meth...

A criminal is now a martyr in this country, and I hope all those who made it possible get their paybacks...
the amount of Fentanyl he ingested could kill an Elephant!
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Sep 1, 2020 10:46 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
PeKaatje: If someone says he gets no air, just get your knee of his neck. In the video you could hear Floyd saying several times I don't get no air.
The cop got his knee on the neck for several minutes. If someone is overdosed, you want to get him in hospital asap
He was saying that he couldn't breath, before he ever threw himself on the ground.. Cops hear that con everyday.. I was unfortunate enough to ride in a paddy wagon, back in the day, and every MF'er in there had an ailment, except the one who kept threatening to beat the cops asses.. laugh
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Sep 1, 2020 10:52 AM CST UPDATE on George Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin case
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
Conrad73: the amount of Fentanyl he ingested could kill an Elephant!
Tru...
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