Accident and Emergency Culture Shock (30)
Glad I don't live where you do as I sometime get a bus 
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How long is the waiting time? A long waiting time is a problem in Sweden :(
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Make it sound like a bad thing that we don't go around stabbing. Is this why you like open borders? The worse life is the more useful you feel? A vested interest in making life hell.
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Mercedes_00: Glad I don't live where you do as I sometime get a bus
You can get hit by a bus when you're inside one...?Is that an Aussy thing?
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Tulefell: How long is the waiting time? A long waiting time is a problem in Sweden :(
In these particular emergency units there was nothing to indicate any waiting times because people were arriving so badly injured, sometimes already having arrested.Our NHS is fantastic in so many ways, but it is under-funded and there is a problem with staff shortages. Sometimes they have so many more people coming in than going home, or able to go to beds elsewhere in the hospital that ambulance drivers have to wait with patients on gurneys in the corridors to make sure they don't deteriorate before being seen.
If you go to A&E, especially on a Friday, or Saturday night, you expect to wait most of the night unless your head is hanging off. Sometime patients may have to wait in A&E nearly a full 24 hours before a bed is released on the wards.
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jac_the_gripper: In these particular emergency units there was nothing to indicate any waiting times because people were arriving so badly injured, sometimes already having arrested.
Our NHS is fantastic in so many ways, but it is under-funded and there is a problem with staff shortages. Sometimes they have so many more people coming in than going home, or able to go to beds elsewhere in the hospital that ambulance drivers have to wait with patients on gurneys in the corridors to make sure they don't deteriorate before being seen.
If you go to A&E, especially on a Friday, or Saturday night, you expect to wait most of the night unless your head is hanging off. Sometime patients may have to wait in A&E nearly a full 24 hours before a bed is released on the wards.
This was my experience after being taken to hospital this summer. I had a fall, tripped and fell badly.Our NHS is fantastic in so many ways, but it is under-funded and there is a problem with staff shortages. Sometimes they have so many more people coming in than going home, or able to go to beds elsewhere in the hospital that ambulance drivers have to wait with patients on gurneys in the corridors to make sure they don't deteriorate before being seen.
If you go to A&E, especially on a Friday, or Saturday night, you expect to wait most of the night unless your head is hanging off. Sometime patients may have to wait in A&E nearly a full 24 hours before a bed is released on the wards.
The paramedics insisted I go for a checkup, we unded up in the corridor, where the medics pumped a full ampule of morfine in me, whch just made me feel sick after a delay in Resus they decided to keep me in for observation, i ended up three months in hospital, kept drugged up.
I thought I was in the North of England, that was a wierd three months till I managed to discharge myself,
NHS well i guess it's better than the alternative.
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ChesneyChrist: Make it sound like a bad thing that we don't go around stabbing. Is this why you like open borders? The worse life is the more useful you feel? A vested interest in making life hell.
How did (I) make it sound like a bad thing that less violent crime was depicted in the British episode to you?How do you think I might personally feel more useful if there were more violent crimes attended to in the British episode of this documentary series?
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tomcatty: This was my experience after being taken to hospital this summer. I had a fall, tripped and fell badly.
The paramedics insisted I go for a checkup, we unded up in the corridor, where the medics pumped a full ampule of morfine in me, whch just made me feel sick after a delay in Resus they decided to keep me in for observation, i ended up three months in hospital, kept drugged up.
I thought I was in the North of England, that was a wierd three months till I managed to discharge myself,
NHS well i guess it's better than the alternative.
They must have been worried about you to keep a bed tied up for three months, Tom.The paramedics insisted I go for a checkup, we unded up in the corridor, where the medics pumped a full ampule of morfine in me, whch just made me feel sick after a delay in Resus they decided to keep me in for observation, i ended up three months in hospital, kept drugged up.
I thought I was in the North of England, that was a wierd three months till I managed to discharge myself,
NHS well i guess it's better than the alternative.
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jac_the_gripper: I have just finished watching a documentary series exploring A&E departments across the world created with the aim of improving our own NHS facilities.
The first episode I watched was situated in St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx. Most trauma involved shootings, some stabbings and some mental health/addiction issues. There was a surprising amount of humour and positivity depicted from medical staff and patients alike.
The second was a visit to the Charlotte Mexeke Hospital in Johannesburg, renowned for being one of the most intense and successful emergency centres in the world. Here resources are few, doctors are junior and yet they have a 90% success rate treating a constant stream of violent stabbings. Part of their success they attribute to recent gun laws, reducing the level of bodily damage.
The third was a state of the art multi-disciplinary complex in Australia, created to cope with the Australian road traffic accident epidemic which plagues the country. It was astounding how they saved people with numerous and complex injuries you wouldn't think possible to recover from.
Finally I got to the UK. So what do we Brits get up to to land us in the capable and merciful hands of these saving A&E angels?
We get hit by buses and fall off trampolines.
You might want to be honest and have an actual opinion. PC BS can only get you so far.The first episode I watched was situated in St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx. Most trauma involved shootings, some stabbings and some mental health/addiction issues. There was a surprising amount of humour and positivity depicted from medical staff and patients alike.
The second was a visit to the Charlotte Mexeke Hospital in Johannesburg, renowned for being one of the most intense and successful emergency centres in the world. Here resources are few, doctors are junior and yet they have a 90% success rate treating a constant stream of violent stabbings. Part of their success they attribute to recent gun laws, reducing the level of bodily damage.
The third was a state of the art multi-disciplinary complex in Australia, created to cope with the Australian road traffic accident epidemic which plagues the country. It was astounding how they saved people with numerous and complex injuries you wouldn't think possible to recover from.
Finally I got to the UK. So what do we Brits get up to to land us in the capable and merciful hands of these saving A&E angels?
We get hit by buses and fall off trampolines.
Do you actually have an opinion or do you concentrate too hard trying to say the right thing without substance????
Pathetic yet funny with cheche's
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jac_the_gripper: They must have been worried about you to keep a bed tied up for three months, Tom.
I don't remember much about it, it seems unreal, but they didn't find anything wrong, and I'm still here just as ornerary,When i came out and saw the date, it was freak out time, Under the freedom of information act , i have applied for a copy of the records of my stay.
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tomcatty: This was my experience after being taken to hospital this summer. I had a fall, tripped and fell badly.
The paramedics insisted I go for a checkup, we unded up in the corridor, where the medics pumped a full ampule of morfine in me, whch just made me feel sick after a delay in Resus they decided to keep me in for observation, i ended up three months in hospital, kept drugged up.
I thought I was in the North of England, that was a wierd three months till I managed to discharge myself,
NHS well i guess it's better than the alternative.
Was it the psychiatric ward tom?The paramedics insisted I go for a checkup, we unded up in the corridor, where the medics pumped a full ampule of morfine in me, whch just made me feel sick after a delay in Resus they decided to keep me in for observation, i ended up three months in hospital, kept drugged up.
I thought I was in the North of England, that was a wierd three months till I managed to discharge myself,
NHS well i guess it's better than the alternative.
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bodleing2: Was it the psychiatric ward tom?
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Enzedooo: You might want to be honest and have an actual opinion. PC BS can only get you so far.
Do you actually have an opinion or do you concentrate too hard trying to say the right thing without substance????
Pathetic yet funny with cheche's
Did you mean 'clichés'?Do you actually have an opinion or do you concentrate too hard trying to say the right thing without substance????
Pathetic yet funny with cheche's
If so, I found the cultural differences notable, too.
Bear in mind my original post is a very brief summary of a documentary series, a television programme, examining different A&E departments. There will have been biases in the programmes themselves as well as my own.
One bias might have been that filming wasn't appropriate at busier times, which may have captured more violent crime at least in the British episode. Another might have been to do with choosing cases which best encapsulated the way each A&E department functioned.
Cultural biases were evident, nonetheless.
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bodleing2: Was it the psychiatric ward tom?
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germanspitz: Well for someone drugged up for 3 months it didn't stop him posting on C.S that's for sure.
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tomcatty: lol no can't have been or they wouldn't have let me out budbod.
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bodleing2: It was with you saying you thought you were in the north of England. I thought maybe you were imagining hearing the doctors saying something like, "ee bar gum, ooer Tommy's not se well tha knows."
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tomcatty: My God do people really talk like that
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jac_the_gripper: Like god can understand Northerners?
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The first episode I watched was situated in St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx. Most trauma involved shootings, some stabbings and some mental health/addiction issues. There was a surprising amount of humour and positivity depicted from medical staff and patients alike.
The second was a visit to the Charlotte Mexeke Hospital in Johannesburg, renowned for being one of the most intense and successful emergency centres in the world. Here resources are few, doctors are junior and yet they have a 90% success rate treating a constant stream of violent stabbings. Part of their success they attribute to recent gun laws, reducing the level of bodily damage.
The third was a state of the art multi-disciplinary complex in Australia, created to cope with the Australian road traffic accident epidemic which plagues the country. It was astounding how they saved people with numerous and complex injuries you wouldn't think possible to recover from.
Finally I got to the UK. So what do we Brits get up to to land us in the capable and merciful hands of these saving A&E angels?
We get hit by buses and fall off trampolines.