Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession ( Archived) (11)

Oct 10, 2020 4:23 AM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
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Whenever you hear a policy that touches on pubs in Britain, you know it’s serious. With coronavirus infections and hospitalizations rising, Boris Johnson is preparing new lockdown rules, including shutting down boozers and restaurants in the north of the country. That has sparked a bitter debate among his cabinet, his party and the public about whether his caution is costing too much.

As so often in this pandemic, Scotland has gone first, closing pubs and restaurants for a 16-day “circuit-break” to try to curb infections, even though the Scottish infection rate is still far below English cities such as Manchester, Liverpool and Newcastle. The new measures for the north of England appear to mirror the Scottish lockdown, only without the time limit.

Johnson must now, in a sense, choose between Scotland’s vigilance and Sweden’s looseness in confronting the virus. The first approach would anger a vocal part of his Conservative Party, which thinks the prime minister’s lockdowns have been been misguided and ineffective. It might also weaken Tory support in northern England, a former Labour stronghold that helped deliver Johnson’s December election victory.

If, on the other hand, he did bow to pressure for a more laissez-faire Swedish approach and cases kept rising, the National Health Service may be overwhelmed. He would be blamed for any loss of life. If Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon’s measures proved more effective, the political damage would be considerable.

The calculations for Johnson are unenviable. He has always defended his Covid strategy by saying that he’s following the advice of government scientists. That defense is looking shaky. First, the advice doesn’t seem to be very good. Local lockdowns aren’t working. Labour leader Keir Starmer points to increased infection rates in 19 of the 20 areas in England that have been placed under special restrictions for two months. Either enforcement needs to get better or the rules changed. Overcentralized policy decisions haven’t helped.

Ref Yahoo.

Roll on vaccine.
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Oct 10, 2020 4:36 AM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
We've always paid for the shirkers in Scotland in fact that should have been what the EU offered Britain as a whole: you can take more than you pay in and don't have to take that many immigrants asylum seekers.

Scotland remains Blairite - the SNP is Blairite not really nationalist at all - because it's very white and doesnt pay the bill.
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Oct 10, 2020 6:09 AM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
ChesneyChrist: We've always paid for the shirkers in Scotland in fact that should have been what the EU offered Britain as a whole: you can take more than you pay in and don't have to take that many immigrants asylum seekers.

Scotland remains Blairite - the SNP is Blairite not really nationalist at all - because it's very white and doesnt pay the bill.
I dunnno...Nicola seems to be fairly on the ball there in Scotland and she's a no nonsense kinda woman. she has absolutely massive support from the Scottish as well...She's streets ahead of Boris in almost every way. Only last week I saw her come out saying yer one (I can't remember her name) who did that train trip from London to Scotland, knowingly infected with Covid, should step down...and they were great friends...Compare that with how Boris dealt with Cummings earlier in the year...

Shirkers? Is that what you call all that oil (or is it gas) off the coast of scotland..that the Uk will die trying to keep hold off...shirkers? lol.....roll eyes
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Oct 10, 2020 6:30 AM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
blathin: I dunnno...Nicola seems to be fairly on the ball there in Scotland and she's a no nonsense kinda woman. she has absolutely massive support from the Scottish as well...She's streets ahead of Boris in almost every way. Only last week I saw her come out saying yer one (I can't remember her name) who did that train trip from London to Scotland, knowingly infected with Covid, should step down...and they were great friends...Compare that with how Boris dealt with Cummings earlier in the year...

Shirkers? Is that what you call all that oil (or is it gas) off the coast of scotland..that the Uk will die trying to keep hold off...shirkers? lol.....
Fair comment, Nicola Sturgeon withdrew the whip from Margaret Ferrier, unlike Bo Jo who sticks by his Eton gang, You know I am A BoJo supporter but I was the first to shout foul at the old bounder.

He was wrong and I think he may suffer for it at some stage.




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tip hat
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Oct 10, 2020 7:23 AM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
CossackCat: We Were Right, The Great Reset Is Here

Honest to God..where do you get these absurd notions from..."the great reset" my eye! roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes

Some people have far too much time on their hands!
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Oct 10, 2020 9:14 AM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
blathin: Honest to God..where do you get these absurd notions from..."the great reset" my eye!

Some people have far too much time on their hands!
well,SoFarSogood!laugh
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Oct 10, 2020 3:59 PM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
Conrad73: she actually wants to establish a permanent Impeachment Commission with that 25th Amendment Commission!
Sneaking the "Vote Of No Confidence" in through the Backdoor!
the Executive would in that case simply become an extension of the Legislative,instead of being a co-equal Branch of Government!!
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Oct 10, 2020 6:55 PM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession


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Oct 11, 2020 10:28 PM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
Britain at Second Virus ‘Tipping Point’, Lockdowns Loom.

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LONDON (AP) — Millions of people in northern England are anxiously waiting to hear how much further virus restrictions will be tightened as one of the British government’s leading medical advisers warned Sunday that the country is at a crucial juncture in the second wave of the coronavirus.

England’s deputy chief medical officer, Professor Jonathan Van-Tam, said the UK is at a “tipping point similar to where we were in March” following a sharp increase in new coronavirus cases.

“But we can prevent history repeating itself if we all act now,” he said. “Now we know where it is and how to tackle it – let’s grasp this opportunity and prevent history from repeating itself.”

All across Europe including the UK, the pandemic has found fresh legs over the past few weeks following the reopening of large sectors of the economy, as well as schools and universities. Infection levels — and deaths — in the UK are rising at their fastest rates in months.

Without quick action, there are fears that UK hospitals will be overwhelmed in the coming weeks at a time of year when they are already at their busiest with winter-related afflictions like the flu. So far the UK has experienced Europe’s deadliest virus outbreak, with over 42,750 confirmed deaths.

Although new coronavirus infections are rising throughout England, cities in the North — Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle — have seen a disproportionate increase in new cases. While some rural areas in eastern England have less than 20 cases per 100,000 people, major metropolitan areas such as Manchester are recording levels above 500 per 100,000, nearly as bad as Madrid or Brussels.

UK Mayors Say Govt Lockdown Support for Workers, Businesses Not Enough

— Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) October 10, 2020

As a result, national restrictions such as a 10 p.m. curfew on pubs and restaurants have been supplemented by local actions, including in some cases banning contacts between households. In Scotland’s two biggest cities, Glasgow and Edinburgh, pubs have already closed for 16 days to suppress the outbreak.

In response to the virus’ resurgence, Prime Minister Boris Johnson is expected to announce a new three-tier local lockdown system Monday, which could temporarily close pubs and restaurants in the virus hotspots. The speculation is that those areas put under the tightest restrictions would forbid all household mixing, indoors or out.

Local leaders in northern England have vented their fury at the Conservative government over what they see as an “inadequate” wage support scheme that it announced Friday and for not properly telling them about the upcoming restrictions. The wage plan aims to help employees in companies that are forced to close due to virus restrictions but mayors say it’s not generous enough in paying only two-thirds of employees’ wages and doesn’t compensate those indirectly hit by any business closures, such as drink suppliers to pubs.

Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick on Sunday sought to assuage concerns that the government was being overly top-down in its approach.

“We are trying to work very closely with mayors, with council leaders, with chief executives to design these measures with them,” he told Sky News. “That does take time.”
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Oct 11, 2020 10:36 PM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
Continued.

Separately, Health Secretary Matt Hancock denied claims that he broke the government´s drinking curfew after the Mail on Sunday newspaper claimed he was seen having a drink in a House of Commons bar after 10 p.m.

“The proposed timeline of events is false and no rules have been broken,” a spokesman for the health secretary said.

NGO Claims Around Half of Migrants on Paris Streets May Be Coronavirus Positive

— Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) October 8, 2020




Now is this lies, truth, or an attempt to allow more migrants into the UK with COVID19 or disrupt BREXIT. And Riz thinks Trump is a super spread.

Now is this lies, truth, or an attempt to allow more migrants into the UK with COVID19 or disrupt BREXIT? Riz the British scholar thinks Trump is a super spread....what do you call this? Keep thinking the infection was caused by a single bat in a Wuhan wet market... it will put the last nail in your coffin.
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Oct 13, 2020 2:49 PM CST Boris Johnson Confronts a Swedish Obsession
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
Boris to Give Veto Power over Statue Removals to Minister to Protect Against ‘Marxist Militants’.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is set to empower a government minister with the ability to veto the removal of Britain’s historical statues in an effort to combat against the BLM inspired iconoclastic movement sweeping through large sections of the political left in the UK.

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