Animals have no soul....! (28)
pedro27: animals have
no soul
they were made
for us
humans to
have ''power'' over
yeah?
l
For once I agree with you Pedro! no soul
they were made
for us
humans to
have ''power'' over
yeah?
l
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Dan_777: For once I agree with you Pedro!
hey Danthey say we
learn something new
everyday
on that note
lets all unite and spread
the good news
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pedro27: cool statement!
did you write that yourself?
Thanks, Pedro.did you write that yourself?
I wrote part of it and knew exactly what I wanted to appear on the post so I had help from Wikipedia and a couple of other sites... that's why you see the ???? where hebrew and greek words are supposed to be.
I've always been good at research. I used to do the work when internet didn't exist and had to peruse hundreds of books in libraries to get to the bottom of things and obtain answers that satisfied my inquisitive mind.
I figured, if my being is on the line, if my place in eternity is at stake, well, I better get some real answers so I searched and searched until my heart was satisfied. I wasn't going to put my eternal life in the hands of others. It's my responsibility to get answers and know because when I finally get in front of God "he told me" is not going to be a defense.
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Cavalero: Thanks, Pedro.
I wrote part of it and knew exactly what I wanted to appear on the post so I had help from Wikipedia and a couple of other sites... that's why you see the ???? where hebrew and greek words are supposed to be.
I've always been good at research. I used to do the work when internet didn't exist and had to peruse hundreds of books in libraries to get to the bottom of things and obtain answers that satisfied my inquisitive mind.
I figured, if my being is on the line, if my place in eternity is at stake, well, I better get some real answers so I searched and searched until my heart was satisfied. I wasn't going to put my eternal life in the hands of others. It's my responsibility to get answers and know because when I finally get in front of God "he told me" is not going to be a defense.
thank you for spreadingI wrote part of it and knew exactly what I wanted to appear on the post so I had help from Wikipedia and a couple of other sites... that's why you see the ???? where hebrew and greek words are supposed to be.
I've always been good at research. I used to do the work when internet didn't exist and had to peruse hundreds of books in libraries to get to the bottom of things and obtain answers that satisfied my inquisitive mind.
I figured, if my being is on the line, if my place in eternity is at stake, well, I better get some real answers so I searched and searched until my heart was satisfied. I wasn't going to put my eternal life in the hands of others. It's my responsibility to get answers and know because when I finally get in front of God "he told me" is not going to be a defense.
good will on us
i hope god blesses you for your aim..!
now what were you talking about?
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bodleing2: Interestingly the Greek word 'psyche' has twin roots...one is the butterfly whose permutations metaphorically dramatize our experience of soul, the other from the verb 'to breath' is an analog of the invisible wind which enters at birth and departs at death.
Thanks for added meaning of 'psyche'. I didn't know about the butterfly metaphorically dramatizing our experiences as souls on earth. That's neat.
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pedro27: thank you for spreading
good will on us
i hope god blesses you for your aim..
You're welcome. Just basically good will on us
i hope god blesses you for your aim..
Not expecting anyone to be moved one way or the other. I don't aim to make converts. To each their responsibility to understand themselves and the worlds around them, the seen one and the unseen one.God blesses me every time I take a breath. Life is not a 'right', it's a privilege, a gift and it doesn't belong to us.
pedro27: now what were you talking about?
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we need animals in a lot of ways. Take bees, they have the power to let plants grow, grew fruit etc. Ants and bacteria we need for cleaning the mess we make, we need chicken to lay eggs, birds are also good for spreading seeds and keeping the insects world in balance. Then there are predators that keep the number of other animals in proportion, without animals people wouldn't be able to live. And as a thank you, we kill them, eat them, poison them , destroy their habitat, humanity is everything that shouldn't be. We need animals, but animals mostly don't need us. Okay, sometimes we can save an animal that is in trouble, question is would it have been in trouble if their were no humans? And living and dying walk hand in hand, even a whole herd of death animals won't extinct the species.
Due to the people lots of species are gone forever, animals and plants.
And because people keep on breeding and they need houses, cattle and fields to food all the new people there will be less and less space for animals. Till one day everything is gone then there will only be people cattle, insects and bacteria and some birds, and by the growing population we have less space for cattle and fields and finally everyone dies because there is no food, no clean water etc.
Humanity is the destruction of the earth.
Due to the people lots of species are gone forever, animals and plants.
And because people keep on breeding and they need houses, cattle and fields to food all the new people there will be less and less space for animals. Till one day everything is gone then there will only be people cattle, insects and bacteria and some birds, and by the growing population we have less space for cattle and fields and finally everyone dies because there is no food, no clean water etc.
Humanity is the destruction of the earth.
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pedro27: animals have
no soul
they were made
for us
humans to
have ''power'' over
yeah?
plus there is humane
ways in killing and justicefiine
a kill
Nor do humans either Pedro...the "soul" is but a mere figment of our imagination and testimony to the sheer arrogance of our thinking that we're "special" or of a higher status than animals....no soul
they were made
for us
humans to
have ''power'' over
yeah?
plus there is humane
ways in killing and justicefiine
a kill
Remove every single animal from the planet and see what happens..we'd barely make it to the end of the year as a species. We need the animals far more than they need us...and if anything, the animals are more important to this planet than we are.. so it is they who have the soul, not us. Our actions and how we treat this planet speaks very clearly to our not having a "soul".
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The Mahayana school directs an investigation into the subject of emptiness, so we can then discover for ourselves whether or not we are simply grasping onto a delusions.
The "I' that we habitually hold as solid when perhaps it is not so solid.
A very careful lengthy inquiry into the subject of emptiness, whether or not the self exists, if it does or does not so we can determine the true nature of self.
Or the inherent none existence of a self...we ourselves (not sheep like understanding) can fully comprehend our true nature. Then we can understand the cycle of suffering that all form beings suffer from.
Beings like ourselves with human shape are described sentient, all beings with form bodies are described sentient beings, all forms of beings that have mind and fear death...animals, fish, insects birds and so forth that have mind and fear death.
Buddhism investigates nature of suffering and teaches antidotes to our ills, careful guided meditations on our true nature negates the false notion that our temporary human form body is the true nature of self.
The teachings explain the nature of self as moving energy, the subtle winds. Some what similar to the religious notion of a soul. Mahayana Buddhism is sometimes described as a mind only school of thought for good reason.
The Buddhist tradition determines whether our cognition of the subject based on logic and reason is an ultimate truth. and follows and or exists only in interdependence.
Its the Mahayana Buddhist view all sentient beings (Beings that have mind and fear death) have been migrating from life to life since beginningless time, our nature is moving energy, subtle winds, and have been taking rebirth in accordance with Karma's. Karma's the interdependent arising's imprinted upon moving energy, the subtle winds, created by our self/non self, imprints made by our body, speech and mind, being good bad or indifferent and collective activities; Karma's driven by certainty of cause and effect.
The imprints upon our subtle winds, the causes so the seeds of our tomorrows giving rise for sentient to migrate from life to life for as long as there are the causes...
Likewise for all sentient beings, beings that have mind and fear death..
The "I' that we habitually hold as solid when perhaps it is not so solid.
A very careful lengthy inquiry into the subject of emptiness, whether or not the self exists, if it does or does not so we can determine the true nature of self.
Or the inherent none existence of a self...we ourselves (not sheep like understanding) can fully comprehend our true nature. Then we can understand the cycle of suffering that all form beings suffer from.
Beings like ourselves with human shape are described sentient, all beings with form bodies are described sentient beings, all forms of beings that have mind and fear death...animals, fish, insects birds and so forth that have mind and fear death.
Buddhism investigates nature of suffering and teaches antidotes to our ills, careful guided meditations on our true nature negates the false notion that our temporary human form body is the true nature of self.
The teachings explain the nature of self as moving energy, the subtle winds. Some what similar to the religious notion of a soul. Mahayana Buddhism is sometimes described as a mind only school of thought for good reason.
The Buddhist tradition determines whether our cognition of the subject based on logic and reason is an ultimate truth. and follows and or exists only in interdependence.
Its the Mahayana Buddhist view all sentient beings (Beings that have mind and fear death) have been migrating from life to life since beginningless time, our nature is moving energy, subtle winds, and have been taking rebirth in accordance with Karma's. Karma's the interdependent arising's imprinted upon moving energy, the subtle winds, created by our self/non self, imprints made by our body, speech and mind, being good bad or indifferent and collective activities; Karma's driven by certainty of cause and effect.
The imprints upon our subtle winds, the causes so the seeds of our tomorrows giving rise for sentient to migrate from life to life for as long as there are the causes...
Likewise for all sentient beings, beings that have mind and fear death..
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What humans do to animals is inhumane. The slaughter should be stopped right this moment or someday it will be them slaughtering us.
Look at how we torcher lobsters boiling them alive. People say they fall right to sleep once they are submerged in the boiling water and never feel a thing. Wth... how does anyone know this? Their antenni keep moving around for about five mintes once they are in the watr. We are cruel.
Now look at what the Spanish people do to poor bulls! Sick. Makes me want to puke seeing what those spa iards do to them. Their time will come.
Look at how we torcher lobsters boiling them alive. People say they fall right to sleep once they are submerged in the boiling water and never feel a thing. Wth... how does anyone know this? Their antenni keep moving around for about five mintes once they are in the watr. We are cruel.
Now look at what the Spanish people do to poor bulls! Sick. Makes me want to puke seeing what those spa iards do to them. Their time will come.
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how about a lion or tiger eating another animal to survive
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pedro27: animals have
no soul
they were made
for us
humans to
have ''power'' over
yeah?
plus there is humane
ways in killing and justicefiine
a kill
. A word. From. My dog. He say..........asse. Solls. no soul
they were made
for us
humans to
have ''power'' over
yeah?
plus there is humane
ways in killing and justicefiine
a kill
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pedro27: how about a lion or tiger eating another animal to survive
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galrads: .....
I was enjoying a veal cutlet in a mom and pop restaurant and remarked to my wife how much i enjoyed its flavor and texture. She asked me if I knew how the livestock was raised to produce it. I haven’t had it since. Totally Grossed me out.
yes we calling it.a Bobby calf. Just fed on milk..to keep the flesh white..........I was enjoying a veal cutlet in a mom and pop restaurant and remarked to my wife how much i enjoyed its flavor and texture. She asked me if I knew how the livestock was raised to produce it. I haven’t had it since. Totally Grossed me out.
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galrads: .....
I was enjoying a veal cutlet in a mom and pop restaurant and remarked to my wife how much i enjoyed its flavor and texture. She asked me if I knew how the livestock was raised to produce it. I haven’t had it since. Totally Grossed me out.
I read your first sentence and thought "Ah no Gal..that poor little calf...how could you" I've never eaten it. I was enjoying a veal cutlet in a mom and pop restaurant and remarked to my wife how much i enjoyed its flavor and texture. She asked me if I knew how the livestock was raised to produce it. I haven’t had it since. Totally Grossed me out.
There's the need to eat to live and we can't help our being carnivores but there's a line only the cold-hearted and vacuous minded would cross. So glad to hear you haven't eaten it since..
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Butin: yes we calling it.a Bobby calf. Just fed on milk..to keep the flesh white..........
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Butin: yes we calling it.a Bobby calf. Just fed on milk..to keep the flesh white..........
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in NZ bobby a calf is three, four days old ,all dairy farm cows have babies but only about 10% / 15% of there calves are kept the rest are usually collected by the bobby Calf truck.
Their hoof's have lot of guillotine in them, thats used to make Jelly, the hides tanned and the rest i think minced into dog / cat food
Their hoof's have lot of guillotine in them, thats used to make Jelly, the hides tanned and the rest i think minced into dog / cat food
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no soul
they were made
for us
humans to
have ''power'' over
yeah?
plus there is humane
ways in killing and justicefiine
a kill