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Jan 21, 2021 12:08 PM CST Protection vs control
We are herd animals (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) and the males of the herd act protective towards the females and the kids. It’s known that the bulls – included the young ones who haven’t yet had a chance to mate – make a ring around cows and calves, when the whole herd is under an attack. The bulls risk their lives for the other members of the herd that they have no direct relation too. The cows don’t object, it is as it is for them: they are bound by their calves and there’s no room for choice.

Primates are in this category as well and it’s in our genes. But how much of the instincts is relevant to the modern life?

Nowadays, you don’t have to be big and strong to drive a car or to operate a computer. The muscular power as well as the charge of adrenaline lost its “charms”. Well, to a certain extend. But, in my limited experience, the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me. From something or other. Undefined. Perhaps, from themselves.

To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
Jan 21, 2021 1:13 PM CST Protection vs control
If you had a Cat
would you name it Mandu ...as Cat Mandu
Jan 21, 2021 1:16 PM CST Protection vs control
"If" doesn't count.

Is it all you can say about the subject?
Jan 21, 2021 1:21 PM CST Protection vs control
Tulefell: "If" doesn't count.

Is it all you can say about the subject?
whats the point, we`re gonna disagree to the point were i lose you as a friend ...and next time i send you my nude pictures, you`re gonna report me
grin
Jan 21, 2021 1:39 PM CST Protection vs control
Dedovix: whats the point, we`re gonna disagree to the point were i lose you as a friend ...and next time i send you my nude pictures, you`re gonna report me
You have never been my friend and you can always send me any picture you wish. I won't report you, because I don't report (it's me being Russian, nothing else).

Again: relation to the topic?
Jan 21, 2021 1:48 PM CST Protection vs control
Tulefell: You have never been my friend and you can always send me any picture you wish. I won't report you, because I don't report (it's me being Russian, nothing else).

Again: relation to the topic?
okay -my non friend
see ``the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me`` is the part we will disagree

it looks to me as you surround yourself with Apes
im no stranger to a bit of kink ,but feather duster is the line i wont cross
Jan 21, 2021 1:56 PM CST Protection vs control
Dedovix: okay -my non friend
see ``the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me`` is the part we will disagree

it looks to me as you surround yourself with Apes
im no stranger to a bit of kink ,but feather duster is the line i wont cross
In my opening post I made reservations for a certain Q-Anonist*. Why do you bother?



*see : (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) in the Opening Post.
Jan 21, 2021 2:31 PM CST Protection vs control
Tulefell: In my opening post I made reservations for a certain Q-Anonist*. Why do you bother?
*see : (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) in the Opening Post.
so, im not your friend nor welcome in your thread, ...that hurts grin
Jan 21, 2021 2:34 PM CST Protection vs control
Dedovix: so, im not your friend nor welcome in your thread, ...that hurts
You want a confirmation?
Jan 21, 2021 2:36 PM CST Protection vs control
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK528 Threads 228 Polls 7,929 Posts
Being a good man myself...I understand a good man will try to protect his woman and that's something those types of men can be very proud ofwow

I think women...who resent men...who want to protect them...perhaps have an issue with daddy dear and men in generalgrin
Jan 21, 2021 2:39 PM CST Protection vs control
LeeCharming: Being a good man myself...I understand a good man will try to protect his woman and that's something those types of men can be very proud of

I think women...who resent men...who want to protect them...perhaps have an issue with daddy dear and men in general
Women, who reject you, have an issue with leeches. Can't blame them.
Jan 21, 2021 2:40 PM CST Protection vs control
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain48 Threads 1 Polls 5,296 Posts
Tulefell: To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
In what context?
Countries?
Parents and children?
Relationships? dunno
Jan 21, 2021 2:40 PM CST Protection vs control
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK528 Threads 228 Polls 7,929 Posts
Tulefell: Women, who reject you, have an issue with leeches. Can't blame them.
You should have listen to your daddy and learned to understand men better...cause as the saying goes...daddy knows best princesscomfort
Jan 21, 2021 2:51 PM CST Protection vs control
Tulefell: You want a confirmation?
like a court order or just a simple piss off Bob?uh oh
Jan 21, 2021 2:51 PM CST Protection vs control
Selenite: In what context?
Countries?
Parents and children?
Relationships?
It's a dating site (for me, anyway).

Sorry if it wasn't clear that the thread is about the relationship between a man and a woman. The remnants of the times gone.The residuals of the patriarchate. How much is there of it in the present life? How much you are a part of it? How much you resist it? How much you are comfortable with it?

Do you still need a bull to defend you? If yes, from what?
Jan 21, 2021 2:52 PM CST Protection vs control
Dedovix: like a court order or just a simple piss off Bob?
Simple.
Jan 21, 2021 3:04 PM CST Protection vs control
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK2,300 Posts
Tulefell: We are herd animals (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) and the males of the herd act protective towards the females and the kids. It’s known that the bulls – included the young ones who haven’t yet had a chance to mate – make a ring around cows and calves, when the whole herd is under an attack. The bulls risk their lives for the other members of the herd that they have no direct relation too. The cows don’t object, it is as it is for them: they are bound by their calves and there’s no room for choice.

Primates are in this category as well and it’s in our genes. But how much of the instincts is relevant to the modern life?

Nowadays, you don’t have to be big and strong to drive a car or to operate a computer. The muscular power as well as the charge of adrenaline lost its “charms”. Well, to a certain extend. But, in my limited experience, the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me. From something or other. Undefined. Perhaps, from themselves.

To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
Given how aggressive some women have become towards men, for something so simple and courteous as opening a door, I'm not surprised men don't do their "protective" thing anymore ...which most women do like, even if they won't admit it.

The difference between a protective man and a controlling man is that the protective man brings a smile to a woman's face..the controlling man doesn't...
Jan 21, 2021 3:30 PM CST Protection vs control
blathin: Given how aggressive some women have become towards men, for something so simple and courteous as opening a door
...
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I never witnessed myself a woman objecting a man for holding a door for her. It's frankly looks like an FB post. I myself have never objected that and I have no issues with me holding a door for a man with a walker or a pram or a large box, that he has to hold with both hands, or without any of it. And I don't know any woman, who would make an issue of a man holding a door for her or of her holding a door for him. But then it's Sweden.



blathin: I'm not surprised men don't do their "protective" thing anymore ...which most women do like, even if they won't admit it. .
Perhaps, I'm an exclusion, but I do not like men being protective towards me. I consider myself as conscious of and responsible for my acts. What exactly would they supposed to protect me from? My choices?



blathin:
The difference between a protective man and a controlling man is that the protective man brings a smile to a woman's face..the controlling man doesn't...
What's so amusing about a protective man (makes you smile), that isn't about a controlling one (doesn't make you smile)?
Jan 21, 2021 4:00 PM CST Protection vs control
blathin: Given how aggressive some women have become towards men, for something so simple and courteous as opening a door, I'm not surprised men don't do their "protective" thing anymore ...which most women do like, even if they won't admit it.

The difference between a protective man and a controlling man is that the protective man brings a smile to a woman's face..the controlling man doesn't...
There is more than one way to open a door.

I don't let a door slam into someone's face when they are walking behind me and I don't expect anyone to do that to me. It should be a natural gesture to check if somene is behind you, or assist someone if they have their hands full.

It's the unnatural gesture of making a show of holding a door open so they can look a woman up and down and/or make comments that is an issue. Leering is also unwelcome.

I hold my hand up to becoming aggressive towards men who use 'opening the door for a lady' as a means of s*xual harrassment. That's the kind of courtesy they can shove up their hairy bottom holes.

Likewise, the idea of women needing protection is sometimes subverted. If I'm being blown about by a gale I haven't got a problem with someone a couple of stone heavier than me keeping my feet on the ground for me, but that kind of humanity is something we all should do.

If, however, protection is used under the guise of isolating, a show of ownership, or ther abuses it becomes like the door example above. It's worth noting that most incidences of abuse against women are perpetrated by those who we traditionally expect to protect.

I don't expect to be looked after, or protected anymore than the next man, woman, child, or budgie. It's nice when it happens when it's needed, but it's something we should all be doing for each other equally without an agenda.
Jan 21, 2021 4:32 PM CST Protection vs control
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK2,300 Posts
different folks different strokes I suppose..well I like it and that's enough for me.

Lets be a little bit generous in spirit here. Women look men up and down all the time, just as much as men look women up and down too. We can't help it, we're hardwired to do it. Women just have a wider range of peripheral vision, so we can still be looking a man straight in the face..but still checking out his shoes and every other detail about him and he won't know a thing..he'll think we're just looking him in the face. .

.Men don't have the same range of vison, so they have to actually look..and if they want to look at any part of us then they have to move their eyes to that part...

.Maybe if people were a bit fairer about the differences between men and women and made allowances for their differences we wouldn't be seeing all this viscious men V women bickering...

Men should let women be and women should let men be. Respect each other and where our gender specific quirks get in the way then try and be a little forgiving and know where the line is and not to cross it.

I hope I don't need to point out that there is a line; and that line should never be crossed....but there are many who can't grasp that concept and need to see everything in terms of the extremes...so use the extreme examples to try and set the standard...which is entirely wrong..not to mention unfair.

Why can't people just live and let live,it'd be a far nicer place for everyone if they would..
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