Protection vs control (36)
If you had a Cat
would you name it Mandu ...as Cat Mandu
would you name it Mandu ...as Cat Mandu
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"If" doesn't count.
Is it all you can say about the subject?
Is it all you can say about the subject?
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Tulefell: In my opening post I made reservations for a certain Q-Anonist*. Why do you bother?
*see : (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) in the Opening Post.
so, im not your friend nor welcome in your thread, ...that hurts *see : (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) in the Opening Post.
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Dedovix: so, im not your friend nor welcome in your thread, ...that hurts
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Being a good man myself...I understand a good man will try to protect his woman and that's something those types of men can be very proud of
I think women...who resent men...who want to protect them...perhaps have an issue with daddy dear and men in general
I think women...who resent men...who want to protect them...perhaps have an issue with daddy dear and men in general
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LeeCharming: Being a good man myself...I understand a good man will try to protect his woman and that's something those types of men can be very proud of
I think women...who resent men...who want to protect them...perhaps have an issue with daddy dear and men in general
Women, who reject you, have an issue with leeches. Can't blame them.I think women...who resent men...who want to protect them...perhaps have an issue with daddy dear and men in general
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Tulefell: To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
In what context?Countries?
Parents and children?
Relationships?
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Tulefell: Women, who reject you, have an issue with leeches. Can't blame them.
You should have listen to your daddy and learned to understand men better...cause as the saying goes...daddy knows best princess
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Tulefell: You want a confirmation?
like a court order or just a simple piss off Bob?
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Selenite: In what context?
Countries?
Parents and children?
Relationships?
It's a dating site (for me, anyway). Countries?
Parents and children?
Relationships?
Sorry if it wasn't clear that the thread is about the relationship between a man and a woman. The remnants of the times gone.The residuals of the patriarchate. How much is there of it in the present life? How much you are a part of it? How much you resist it? How much you are comfortable with it?
Do you still need a bull to defend you? If yes, from what?
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Dedovix: like a court order or just a simple piss off Bob?
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Tulefell: We are herd animals (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) and the males of the herd act protective towards the females and the kids. It’s known that the bulls – included the young ones who haven’t yet had a chance to mate – make a ring around cows and calves, when the whole herd is under an attack. The bulls risk their lives for the other members of the herd that they have no direct relation too. The cows don’t object, it is as it is for them: they are bound by their calves and there’s no room for choice.
Primates are in this category as well and it’s in our genes. But how much of the instincts is relevant to the modern life?
Nowadays, you don’t have to be big and strong to drive a car or to operate a computer. The muscular power as well as the charge of adrenaline lost its “charms”. Well, to a certain extend. But, in my limited experience, the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me. From something or other. Undefined. Perhaps, from themselves.
To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
Given how aggressive some women have become towards men, for something so simple and courteous as opening a door, I'm not surprised men don't do their "protective" thing anymore ...which most women do like, even if they won't admit it. Primates are in this category as well and it’s in our genes. But how much of the instincts is relevant to the modern life?
Nowadays, you don’t have to be big and strong to drive a car or to operate a computer. The muscular power as well as the charge of adrenaline lost its “charms”. Well, to a certain extend. But, in my limited experience, the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me. From something or other. Undefined. Perhaps, from themselves.
To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
The difference between a protective man and a controlling man is that the protective man brings a smile to a woman's face..the controlling man doesn't...
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blathin: Given how aggressive some women have become towards men, for something so simple and courteous as opening a door
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I never witnessed myself a woman objecting a man for holding a door for her. It's frankly looks like an FB post. I myself have never objected that and I have no issues with me holding a door for a man with a walker or a pram or a large box, that he has to hold with both hands, or without any of it. And I don't know any woman, who would make an issue of a man holding a door for her or of her holding a door for him. But then it's Sweden....
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blathin: I'm not surprised men don't do their "protective" thing anymore ...which most women do like, even if they won't admit it. .
Perhaps, I'm an exclusion, but I do not like men being protective towards me. I consider myself as conscious of and responsible for my acts. What exactly would they supposed to protect me from? My choices?blathin:
The difference between a protective man and a controlling man is that the protective man brings a smile to a woman's face..the controlling man doesn't...
What's so amusing about a protective man (makes you smile), that isn't about a controlling one (doesn't make you smile)?The difference between a protective man and a controlling man is that the protective man brings a smile to a woman's face..the controlling man doesn't...
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different folks different strokes I suppose..well I like it and that's enough for me.
Lets be a little bit generous in spirit here. Women look men up and down all the time, just as much as men look women up and down too. We can't help it, we're hardwired to do it. Women just have a wider range of peripheral vision, so we can still be looking a man straight in the face..but still checking out his shoes and every other detail about him and he won't know a thing..he'll think we're just looking him in the face. .
.Men don't have the same range of vison, so they have to actually look..and if they want to look at any part of us then they have to move their eyes to that part...
.Maybe if people were a bit fairer about the differences between men and women and made allowances for their differences we wouldn't be seeing all this viscious men V women bickering...
Men should let women be and women should let men be. Respect each other and where our gender specific quirks get in the way then try and be a little forgiving and know where the line is and not to cross it.
I hope I don't need to point out that there is a line; and that line should never be crossed....but there are many who can't grasp that concept and need to see everything in terms of the extremes...so use the extreme examples to try and set the standard...which is entirely wrong..not to mention unfair.
Why can't people just live and let live,it'd be a far nicer place for everyone if they would..
Lets be a little bit generous in spirit here. Women look men up and down all the time, just as much as men look women up and down too. We can't help it, we're hardwired to do it. Women just have a wider range of peripheral vision, so we can still be looking a man straight in the face..but still checking out his shoes and every other detail about him and he won't know a thing..he'll think we're just looking him in the face. .
.Men don't have the same range of vison, so they have to actually look..and if they want to look at any part of us then they have to move their eyes to that part...
.Maybe if people were a bit fairer about the differences between men and women and made allowances for their differences we wouldn't be seeing all this viscious men V women bickering...
Men should let women be and women should let men be. Respect each other and where our gender specific quirks get in the way then try and be a little forgiving and know where the line is and not to cross it.
I hope I don't need to point out that there is a line; and that line should never be crossed....but there are many who can't grasp that concept and need to see everything in terms of the extremes...so use the extreme examples to try and set the standard...which is entirely wrong..not to mention unfair.
Why can't people just live and let live,it'd be a far nicer place for everyone if they would..
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Tulefell: It's a dating site (for me, anyway).
Sorry if it wasn't clear that the thread is about the relationship between a man and a woman. The remnants of the times gone.The residuals of the patriarchate. How much is there of it in the present life? How much you are a part of it? How much you resist it? How much you are comfortable with it?
Do you still need a bull to defend you? If yes, from what?
I never was agreeable with 'being controled' not even by my parents let alone a partner. Sorry if it wasn't clear that the thread is about the relationship between a man and a woman. The remnants of the times gone.The residuals of the patriarchate. How much is there of it in the present life? How much you are a part of it? How much you resist it? How much you are comfortable with it?
Do you still need a bull to defend you? If yes, from what?
And yes many people confuse protection with controle parents and 'husbands' alike!
I don't need to be told what to think, or what to do ... In a couple, decisions that impact the household should be discussed and agreed upon. Decisions that impact each person individually may be discussed if so desired but ultimately the decision belongs to the person it impacts.
I've been living independently for the last 10 years doing up an old house by myself without anyone to 'protect me' or 'guide me' in any of the decisions or experiences I've had.
I don't need protection from any of life's ordinary or less ordinary situations ...
A thoughtful partner doesn't necesseraly need to be 'protective' imo. He just needs to be present and caring.
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Maybe if we switch the focus a little..
What do men need/want women for?
We seem to have lost the roles played by both genders over centuries and we have to adapt to that. While we have to adapt, I as a man still want to be in a relationship with a woman for various reasons, because there are still things females are better at than I will ever be.
A compatible couple will achieve much more than one person on their own.
What do men need/want women for?
We seem to have lost the roles played by both genders over centuries and we have to adapt to that. While we have to adapt, I as a man still want to be in a relationship with a woman for various reasons, because there are still things females are better at than I will ever be.
A compatible couple will achieve much more than one person on their own.
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Tulefell: We are herd animals (reservation for a certain Q-Anonist) and the males of the herd act protective towards the females and the kids. It’s known that the bulls – included the young ones who haven’t yet had a chance to mate – make a ring around cows and calves, when the whole herd is under an attack. The bulls risk their lives for the other members of the herd that they have no direct relation too. The cows don’t object, it is as it is for them: they are bound by their calves and there’s no room for choice.
Primates are in this category as well and it’s in our genes. But how much of the instincts is relevant to the modern life?
Nowadays, you don’t have to be big and strong to drive a car or to operate a computer. The muscular power as well as the charge of adrenaline lost its “charms”. Well, to a certain extend. But, in my limited experience, the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me. From something or other. Undefined. Perhaps, from themselves.
To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
Some of these issues are questions of law. If I am having a 'fight/argument' with my significant other (SO) over something which may or may not be her fault and she decides to 'walk out' at two am in the morning in a blinding snowstorm, what do I do? If I try to stop her it's classified as confinement, but if I let her go and something happens to her it may be said I was not protecting her. Primates are in this category as well and it’s in our genes. But how much of the instincts is relevant to the modern life?
Nowadays, you don’t have to be big and strong to drive a car or to operate a computer. The muscular power as well as the charge of adrenaline lost its “charms”. Well, to a certain extend. But, in my limited experience, the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me. From something or other. Undefined. Perhaps, from themselves.
To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)
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You're being controlled to protect them is the main difference. A human shield that protects them from you finding someone better.
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Lonely1: Some of these issues are questions of law. If I am having a 'fight/argument' with my significant other (SO) over something which may or may not be her fault and she decides to 'walk out' at two am in the morning in a blinding snowstorm, what do I do? If I try to stop her it's classified as confinement, but if I let her go and something happens to her it may be said I was not protecting her.
The question here is why would anyone think they're safer in a snow storm than under the same roof as the person they're arguing with... and that's the question you should be asking yourself... why is she not able to trust that she's safe till morning when she could make arrangements to do what needs to be done! If anything happened to her the answers to those questions would be impotant to an investigator! Enough with the portraying women as impulsive brainless idiots
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Primates are in this category as well and it’s in our genes. But how much of the instincts is relevant to the modern life?
Nowadays, you don’t have to be big and strong to drive a car or to operate a computer. The muscular power as well as the charge of adrenaline lost its “charms”. Well, to a certain extend. But, in my limited experience, the males of the primate herd continue to behave as if they are protecting me. From something or other. Undefined. Perhaps, from themselves.
To keep it short, do you differentiate between protection and control? What is what and what is an overstep? How long do you want to go to protect? How long would you accept protection? Where’s the line between protection and control? (Let’s leave aside possession and obsession.)