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Feb 1, 2021 8:46 AM CST “You Be The Judge”
I used to see this column in “Readers’ Digest”. Usually interesting, and not always an expected outcome. Here’s one, happening near here. I’d like honest opinions and views regarding this.

So, there are two very rural towns ( hamlets, actually) way out in the country, about 20 miles apart. Word’s out ( and very probable, accurate) that the established townsfolk, especially the men, keep an extremely sharp eye out for “ drifters”, and arrive with their trucks, dogs, friends, and literally run them out of town. It’s been reported to local officials, but the methods used fall short of actually being illegal, and I’m guessing the local authorities would want them to not set up camp, etc...either. The citizens collectively are adamant that their pastoral life not be encroached upon this way. Coos Bay has a glaringly bad homeless problem, but it is actually tolerated, and largely accommodated, here. I’m torn. I get not wanting it ( it’s not personal nor sanctimonious; in short, it’s the trash, waste barf that is so terrible. However, this IS America, and those towns don’t own the road, nor the state and national forests bordering, and it IS allowed that people live there. What say Ye, my CS friends? Is intimidation to have ones own way appropriate? Just wondering...
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Feb 1, 2021 9:11 AM CST “You Be The Judge”
Taralyn
TaralynTaralynFunk Island, Newfoundland Canada3 Threads 907 Posts
Well, you can look at that and say that it's wrong, people can do what they want, settle where they want as long as the life and liberty of others aren't encroached upon. How many towns though, have fought against biker clubs being in their towns? I don't mean Hells Angels or the like where you can reasonably expect some kind of violence/illegal activities taking place. I mean the really tough clubs made up of doctors, lawyers, a few seniors, etc??
It's a stereotypical thing where one bad apple spoils the while barrel. You get grifters making a bad name for a group of people and no one wants to have them affiliated with their town anymore. Survival of the fittest with a town council and the law backing you up.
Is it right??? Well...... Is it legal??? Apparently so.
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Feb 1, 2021 9:28 AM CST “You Be The Judge”
Taralyn: Well, you can look at that and say that it's wrong, people can do what they want, settle where they want as long as the life and liberty of others aren't encroached upon. How many towns though, have fought against biker clubs being in their towns? I don't mean Hells Angels or the like where you can reasonably expect some kind of violence/illegal activities taking place. I mean the really tough clubs made up of doctors, lawyers, a few seniors, etc??
It's a stereotypical thing where one bad apple spoils the while barrel. You get grifters making a bad name for a group of people and no one wants to have them affiliated with their town anymore. Survival of the fittest with a town council and the law backing you up.
Is it right??? Well...... Is it legal??? Apparently so.
Hi there, and thanks for input. After reading your post, I thought deeply about what I wrote, and what you wrote. I projected myself to a position of being a hard- working, professional man who has done his part academically, socially, and at times, gratuitously. I finally got a beautiful country home in a cool little hamlet. Would I do everything I could to defend this little blue Heaven from being ruined by devil- may- care encroachers? In an honest word..YES. So, does that make me a bad person? In an honest word..NO.

Looking forward to reading more responses. Thanx, everybody...teddybear
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Feb 1, 2021 10:21 AM CST “You Be The Judge”
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
I would defend a real traditional village and its local people who are probably the last people gentrifying anyone.

But I might feel a whole lot differently if you're fresh from the moral swamp of the city. The reason you're rich the same reason they're homeless. If you've brought the beggars with you as it were.
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Feb 1, 2021 2:58 PM CST “You Be The Judge”
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
rohaan: I used to see this column in “Readers’ Digest”. Usually interesting, and not always an expected outcome. Here’s one, happening near here. I’d like honest opinions and views regarding this.

So, there are two very rural towns ( hamlets, actually) way out in the country, about 20 miles apart. Word’s out ( and very probable, accurate) that the established townsfolk, especially the men, keep an extremely sharp eye out for “ drifters”, and arrive with their trucks, dogs, friends, and literally run them out of town. It’s been reported to local officials, but the methods used fall short of actually being illegal, and I’m guessing the local authorities would want them to not set up camp, etc...either. The citizens collectively are adamant that their pastoral life not be encroached upon this way. Coos Bay has a glaringly bad homeless problem, but it is actually tolerated, and largely accommodated, here. I’m torn. I get not wanting it ( it’s not personal nor sanctimonious; in short, it’s the trash, waste that is so terrible. However, this IS America, and those towns don’t own the road, nor the state and national forests bordering, and it IS allowed that people live there. What say Ye, my CS friends? Is intimidation to have ones own way appropriate? Just wondering...
No, to imtimidate someone else for one's own benefit is wrong..It's 2021 and we're supposed to be "civilsed" . given the behaviour of many it's pretty evident we're far from being civilised...The problem is population. Just too many people. Our amygdala isn't designed to live among so many people, it was only meant for small communites where everyone would know everyone else and the strangers, although may have been welcomed and shown a good welcome, they still had to prove themselves before they were completely allowed in....We still see that tiny parochial mindest in the likes of the hamlet you're describing above...

The villagers should know better, but their actions say they're probably still rather backward and feel threatened , probably for all the wrong reasons....

If the richest, most powerful country in the world cannot house the poorest most vulnerable and they're left to wander aimlessly then you can hardly blame them , or the villagers for the state of affairs...I'd be banging down the local councillors door and demanding something be done about it..but I don't know if you have such easy access to your politicians as us Irish do....but ultimately they are responsible for the scenario you're describing....and they should be having their arses kicked for causing it....but I bet everyone would rather blame the poor unfortunate homeless...

Probably not much help...but there ya go lol....
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Feb 1, 2021 3:06 PM CST “You Be The Judge”
I think its sad that a country like America (and other rich countries including Canada) would have people with no shelter to begin with. In America today, there are more abandoned houses than there is homeless people. The richer countries like America, Canada, and so forth need to reevaluate their priorities and start looking after the poor and vulnerable. Don't worry, there will be money left over for the rich to get a little richer, just not quite as rich as they are getting now.
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Feb 2, 2021 5:29 AM CST “You Be The Judge”
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
The towns are right, piss off.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
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Feb 2, 2021 11:19 AM CST “You Be The Judge”
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Track16: I think its sad that a country like America (and other rich countries including Canada) would have people with no shelter to begin with. In America today, there are more abandoned houses than there is homeless people. The richer countries like America, Canada, and so forth need to reevaluate their priorities and start looking after the poor and vulnerable. Don't worry, there will be money left over for the rich to get a little richer, just not quite as rich as they are getting now.
I agree, it's a huge indictment on any country that would have houses lying empty and unused but yet droves of people are sleeping out on the streets ..it's shocking in the day and age..
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