Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions (209)
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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
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rockymarciano: Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Yes...John Lennon said it all. It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
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And I believe that everything is an ILLUSION!
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rockymarciano: Hi blathin I once read that there are only two reasons why wars were ever fought and they are politics and religion but how true this is I couldn't say. You say that faith might be the reason why I believe what I do well I've never heard it put that way before but because this is such a speculative topic upon which one could talk without end let me leave you with this to ponder.
Tonight look up at the sky and find the moon ( please forgive this most unelaborate example ) I ask you then, do you think that it is just where it is by chance ? Would you perhaps agree that just maybe there is a precept in place causing the moon to remain where it is and not to just float away into space and if so who determines this? I believe Almighty God does.
You mention all the suffering that happens on earth and nothing could have been worse than the last two WW and I don't even know how the following ties in if at all, but the lion eats the zebra, the shark eats the seal the birds eat the insects and we eat beef and mutton and so ???
Ever wonder who told the electron to revolve around the proton I expect you might say that this all happened by chance, well I couldn't agree with you less because in all the total utter chaos that is our universe there is some shape and order and that order for me is Almighty God. I may be wrong so I'm listening.
Hi Rocky, Oh I completely understand that someone could look at the sun, moon and stars and be convinced there must be some higher power that put them there, or at the very least set the ball rolling...It's really hard to not do that, but I don't. I used to, as a child, but now I see it for what it really is. Nature. And what better God than the one who's abundant every where on the planet that you can see, touch, hear and smell...Tonight look up at the sky and find the moon ( please forgive this most unelaborate example ) I ask you then, do you think that it is just where it is by chance ? Would you perhaps agree that just maybe there is a precept in place causing the moon to remain where it is and not to just float away into space and if so who determines this? I believe Almighty God does.
You mention all the suffering that happens on earth and nothing could have been worse than the last two WW and I don't even know how the following ties in if at all, but the lion eats the zebra, the shark eats the seal the birds eat the insects and we eat beef and mutton and so ???
Ever wonder who told the electron to revolve around the proton I expect you might say that this all happened by chance, well I couldn't agree with you less because in all the total utter chaos that is our universe there is some shape and order and that order for me is Almighty God. I may be wrong so I'm listening.
Ah but the universe isn't chaotic Rocky :) It might have started out that way (14 billions years ago give or take a few billion lol) but today it's found it's balance and is so structured that we can now study it and apply "laws" to it's mechanisms...Some laws we have yet to discover but we will get there...one day...
If there is some higher power that could construct such an incredible system, then how come it took them 14 billions years..and where did they come from?? If nothing existed before "God" then from what was it created?
If there has to be a God, then it's mother earth , nature...But because everyone can see it, touch it and it's everywhere we look, it's not considered magical or possessing of powers so it's totally dismissed......The God you and most others speak of is a totally made up fictional character. sorry Rocky but it really is that simple. And religion is the tool used by the few to control the many...
We could live, surivive and thrive without your God..but we couldn't live more than a few days without Nature as that is what's given us life..and as they say..God gives and god takes away....it's actually nature that gives and it's nature that can take away..and is the source of all life..
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blathin: Hi Rocky, Oh I completely understand that someone could look at the sun, moon and stars and be convinced there must be some higher power that put them there, or at the very least set the ball rolling...It's really hard to not do that, but I don't. I used to, as a child, but now I see it for what it really is. Nature. And what better God than the one who's abundant every where on the planet that you can see, touch, hear and smell...
Ah but the universe isn't chaotic Rocky :) It might have started out that way (14 billions years ago give or take a few billion lol) but today it's found it's balance and is so structured that we can now study it and apply "laws" to it's mechanisms...Some laws we have yet to discover but we will get there...one day...
If there is some higher power that could construct such an incredible system, then how come it took them 14 billions years..and where did they come from?? If nothing existed before "God" then from what was it created?
If there has to be a God, then it's mother earth , nature...But because everyone can see it, touch it and it's everywhere we look, it's not considered magical or possessing of powers so it's totally dismissed......The God you and most others speak of is a totally made up fictional character. sorry Rocky but it really is that simple. And religion is the tool used by the few to control the many...
We could live, surivive and thrive without your God..but we couldn't live more than a few days without Nature as that is what's given us life..and as they say..God gives and god takes away....it's actually nature that gives and it's nature that can take away..and is the source of all life..
Interesting comment Blathin!Ah but the universe isn't chaotic Rocky :) It might have started out that way (14 billions years ago give or take a few billion lol) but today it's found it's balance and is so structured that we can now study it and apply "laws" to it's mechanisms...Some laws we have yet to discover but we will get there...one day...
If there is some higher power that could construct such an incredible system, then how come it took them 14 billions years..and where did they come from?? If nothing existed before "God" then from what was it created?
If there has to be a God, then it's mother earth , nature...But because everyone can see it, touch it and it's everywhere we look, it's not considered magical or possessing of powers so it's totally dismissed......The God you and most others speak of is a totally made up fictional character. sorry Rocky but it really is that simple. And religion is the tool used by the few to control the many...
We could live, surivive and thrive without your God..but we couldn't live more than a few days without Nature as that is what's given us life..and as they say..God gives and god takes away....it's actually nature that gives and it's nature that can take away..and is the source of all life..
I could also answer some of your questions as to "who/what created the entire universe"?
Higher power? Hmmm.
There are certainly some entities at work here!
As you say, religions are made to control the masses!
I don't know if you've read my blog about this topic, but there are many interesting comments in the last pages.
You might find some answers there?
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Dan_777: Interesting comment Blathin!
I could also answer some of your questions as to "who/what created the entire universe"?
Higher power? Hmmm.
There are certainly some entities at work here!
As you say, religions are made to control the masses!
I don't know if you've read my blog about this topic, but there are many interesting comments in the last pages.
You might find some answers there?
See that's the thing Dan..(without boring you with the reasons why) I'm not really looking for answers per say, I'm just curious about what others believe and think; and how they might react to what I might say. I could also answer some of your questions as to "who/what created the entire universe"?
Higher power? Hmmm.
There are certainly some entities at work here!
As you say, religions are made to control the masses!
I don't know if you've read my blog about this topic, but there are many interesting comments in the last pages.
You might find some answers there?
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Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
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Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
So... there are other versions of Genesis? Witch one is the right one?
So... there are other versions of Genesis? Witch one is the right one?
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blathin: See that's the thing Dan..(without boring you with the reasons why) I'm not really looking for answers per say, I'm just curious about what others believe and think; and how they might react to what I might say.
Oh ok Blathin, as long as you're happy with your unanswered questions, then it's alright.I understand.
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stringman: Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
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Dan_777: Oh ok Blathin, as long as you're happy with your unanswered questions, then it's alright.
I understand.
No need to be patronising Dan. I understand.
What unanswered questions?
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stringman: Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
A good example why for many, the very word 'God' becomes a barrier to that which it is supposed to be guiding us towards.
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Correct and sound doctrine is crucial to salvation and growth in spiritual maturity. It comes as no surprise that God warns us many times in Scripture to be aware of false teaching. Christians need to be able to recognize false teachers in order to know when they are being led down a path that God did not intend!
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Jesus said he is the truth and divine
Its all very simple in understanding 123
Its all very simple in understanding 123
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stringman: Correct and sound doctrine is crucial to salvation and growth in spiritual maturity. It comes as no surprise that God warns us many times in Scripture to be aware of false teaching. Christians need to be able to recognize false teachers in order to know when they are being led down a path that God did not intend!
Again, another brilliant tactic in their marketing...warning you to beware of the other snake oil salesmen 
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Much of what was touted as new philosophy is only the new label on a dusted off recycled philosophy.
You can almost guess what everyone's age is here by how they convey it, question it and sense it's familiarity.
After six or seven years here even the threads get recycled.
You can almost guess what everyone's age is here by how they convey it, question it and sense it's familiarity.
After six or seven years here even the threads get recycled.
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