Gasoline/diesel vs battery ( Archived) (19)

In my country there will be a ban to sell gas and diesel cars from 2030. VD of Volvo together with MB and BMW claims they will only manufacture battery powerd cars from 2025. My problem with this is that majority of fuel is today consumed by cars. Sweden is a small country with only 10 million inhabitants. This year 500 gas station have closed or will close shortly. Market powers are strong so when everyone buys battery cars all gas stations will close. People who live in the country side will not be able live there any more. There is not any functional infrastructure yet. Many small citys has faiblesse so far to provide charging stations. One important fact is that many other things run on fuel. Mc, traktors, trucks, lawn moders, chair saws, quads, snow mobiles and boats. With no gas stations all of these will be impossible to use. Transports of goods and farming will be difficult. I see a future of only citys next to electrified train tracks surviving. Property values else where will drastically drop, jobs disapeare. There are many issiues with battery powered vehicles. Forget about pulling a trailer, do not charge in freezing temperatures, avoid side impact or bad roads because a punctured battery will make the car burn up. In cold climate possible reach is limited. Changing battery can not be Done in regular garage due to explosion hazard. The list is longer. I believe it is a big mistake by goverments to make laws about this. What do you think?

I sell used carparts for older cars. 1946-2006. Also new parts.

We already have solar power, wind power and wave power turbines in situ and working. ...We also have about 40 years until peak oil is reached, so by then we're bound to have the alternatives in place, and by then we'll also have every house retro fitted as well so I wouldnt' worry too much about it...If we managed to survive hundreds, if not thousands of years without oil then we'll cope without it again. I can remember a time (in rural Ireland) when many houses didn't have running water, heating or even a fridge and it was grand. Life without oil won't be half as bad as you might expect.


What does worry me though is how we're going to deal with 40 more years of oil derivative pollutants being pumped into the air, sea and land...

And, given how much damage we've done to the planet, if the end oil brings about a much reduced population then, sure that won't be such a bad thing either . There are far far far too many of us as it is. Imagine if the global population goes up (as predicted) to ten billion....the earth will look like a landfill site and the most important natural resources like the soil, the water, the air will barely cope with what that kind of population will do to it...end of oil will be the least of humankinds' worries.

Ok so you do not mind that a lot of people starve to death because there is no food being produced. That is inhumane. But I see your point but I do not want to participate in that though.

I'd be obliged if you didn't try to put words in my mouth. That is most certainly NOT what I said. You asked a specific question and answered it with that specification in mind.

There are millions of people starving in the world right this second. And that's with full oil production.

Actually, they won't starve to death. A family of four, on a vegan diet, only needs a quarter of an acre to live. The same family as vegetarian would need an acre...The same family as meat eaters would need four acres.

Currently, 30 billion tons of grain needs to be produced to feed the cattle that are grown for their meat...

That same 30 billion tons of grains would feel far far far more people and bring the most impoverished on this planet above the malnutrition line...

The starvation on this planet isn't caused by lack of food/ this planet is absolutely heaving with life and the ability to feed it's occupants. The starvation is caused the the fat and over-fed who're too greedy to share with anyone else...

Norway being one of the most generous by giving over 10% (if memory serves) of it's GDP to poorer countries...

Sweden gives away a lot of money to but it does not help. But that is another thing. Here in Sweden It is impossible to run a small scale farm due to a lot of red tape and regulations. We lost 90 percent of farmers and now the big ones are in trouble. Try to farm with batteri power . LOL