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Jun 21, 2021 3:33 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
Wuhan Lab Found All Genes To Recreate ‘Epidemic Strain’ Of Coronavirus in 2017.

"... November 30th 2017 report reveals how data collected by Shi’s team enabled the lab to “make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain”:

“After five years of surveying bats in a cave in southern China’s Yunnan Province, Zhengli Shi and colleagues discovered 11 new strains of SARS-related viruses in horseshoe bats (especially in Rhinolophus sinicus). Within the strains, the researchers found all the genes to make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain, says Shi, a virologist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences.

"These new strains are more similar to the human version of SARS than were previously identified bat viruses, says Matthew Frieman, a virologist at the University of Maryland in Baltimore.

"The article, which was recently wiped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s website, also notes that Shi and her colleagues found that “several of the strains” could grow in human cells."



So. If it's not clear by now, our government has been lying to us and actively suppressing the truth, to include simple, cheap and effective treatments (e.g. HCQ and Ivermectin), and so has the corporate media, and so have the Social Media Giants.

We've spent the last year or so under stringently restricted civil liberties, kids have lost an entire year in school and university, businesses' shuttered, many of which are not coming back, and family savings wiped out.

There is more, much more, where this came from.
Jun 21, 2021 3:48 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
bodleing2online today!
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The National Pulse?

Could they lean a little to the right perhaps?

I think Raheem Kassam certainly does.

conversing
Jun 21, 2021 3:56 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands77 Threads 5 Polls 7,745 Posts
Well, the Dutch government has said lately on television that we can expect more pandemisc in the future.
My point is, why not build several hospitals only for pandemics. In the Netherlands about 1400 medical treatments were postponed due to the problems with too much covid patients in the hospital, 400 didn't survive. Think about surgery of veins and cancertreatment. If they build a big centre only for pandemics, with about 3000 places ready, other medical treatment can go on as usual. Of course the Netherlands is a small country, and people sometimes think it's the capital of Amsterdam. But in bigger countries they should have to build more pandemic centra. China builded one in Wuhan.

Let's just be prepared, maybe then the rules for a new pandemic can be less strict, the economy can go on as usual, and less companies will go bankrupt.
Jun 21, 2021 3:56 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands77 Threads 5 Polls 7,745 Posts
Bohemund: Wuhan Lab Found All Genes To Recreate ‘Epidemic Strain’ Of Coronavirus in 2017.

"... November 30th 2017 report reveals how data collected by Shi’s team enabled the lab to “make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain”:

“After five years of surveying bats in a cave in southern China’s Yunnan Province, Zhengli Shi and colleagues discovered 11 new strains of SARS-related viruses in horseshoe bats (especially in Rhinolophus sinicus). Within the strains, the researchers found all the genes to make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain, says Shi, a virologist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences.

"These new strains are more similar to the human version of SARS than were previously identified bat viruses, says Matthew Frieman, a virologist at the University of Maryland in Baltimore.

"The article, which was recently wiped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s website, also notes that Shi and her colleagues found that “several of the strains” could grow in human cells."



So. If it's not clear by now, our government has been lying to us and actively suppressing the truth, to include simple, cheap and effective treatments (e.g. HCQ and Ivermectin), and so has the corporate media, and so have the Social Media Giants.

We've spent the last year or so under stringently restricted civil liberties, kids have lost an entire year in school and university, businesses' shuttered, many of which are not coming back, and family savings wiped out.

There is more, much more, where this came from.
Jun 21, 2021 3:59 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands77 Threads 5 Polls 7,745 Posts
In 2017 there was a new comics album of Asterix, the Giro d'Italia is the English title I think. And the champion's name is Coronavirus. Till the pandemic started most people wouldn't have understood the 'joke', for they never had heard of Corona. Makes you think...
Jun 21, 2021 4:16 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
PeKaatje: Well, the Dutch government has said lately on television that we can expect more pandemisc in the future.
My point is, why not build several hospitals only for pandemics. In the Netherlands about 1400 medical treatments were postponed due to the problems with too much covid patients in the hospital, 400 didn't survive. Think about surgery of veins and cancertreatment. If they build a big centre only for pandemics, with about 3000 places ready, other medical treatment can go on as usual. Of course the Netherlands is a small country, and people sometimes think it's the capital of Amsterdam. But in bigger countries they should have to build more pandemic centra. China builded one in Wuhan.

Let's just be prepared, maybe then the rules for a new pandemic can be less strict, the economy can go on as usual, and less companies will go bankrupt.
I think it would be better if they quit building plandemics... thumbs up
Jun 21, 2021 4:57 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK20 Threads 6,847 Posts
Bohemund: Wuhan Lab Found All Genes To Recreate ‘Epidemic Strain’ Of Coronavirus in 2017.

"... November 30th 2017 report reveals how data collected by Shi’s team enabled the lab to “make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain”:

“After five years of surveying bats in a cave in southern China’s Yunnan Province, Zhengli Shi and colleagues discovered 11 new strains of SARS-related viruses in horseshoe bats (especially in Rhinolophus sinicus). Within the strains, the researchers found all the genes to make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain, says Shi, a virologist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences.

"These new strains are more similar to the human version of SARS than were previously identified bat viruses, says Matthew Frieman, a virologist at the University of Maryland in Baltimore.

"The article, which was recently wiped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s website, also notes that Shi and her colleagues found that “several of the strains” could grow in human cells."



So. If it's not clear by now, our government has been lying to us and actively suppressing the truth, to include simple, cheap and effective treatments (e.g. HCQ and Ivermectin), and so has the corporate media, and so have the Social Media Giants.

We've spent the last year or so under stringently restricted civil liberties, kids have lost an entire year in school and university, businesses' shuttered, many of which are not coming back, and family savings wiped out.

There is more, much more, where this came from.
The 'epidemic strain' refers to the SARS epidemic 2002-2004.

Your point is...?

Actually, I can answer that: by implying that the strains found in 2017 refer to the pandemic strain(s) SARS-CoV-2, or covid19, rather than the epidemic strain of 2002-2004, you are trolling (using one of your profiles like you're having an angry little wank in front of your keyboard) with a complete disregard for the impact that propagating conspiracy theories to those (who aren't the shiniest pins in the cushion) in relatively privileged countries will have on the human beings in low income countries.

I kinda enjoyed that run-on sentence. grin
Jun 21, 2021 5:21 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper: The 'epidemic strain' refers to the SARS epidemic 2002-2004.

Your point is...?

Actually, I can answer that: by implying that the strains found in 2017 refer to the pandemic strain(s) SARS-CoV-2, or covid19, rather than the epidemic strain of 2002-2004, you are trolling (using one of your profiles like you're having an angry little wank in front of your keyboard) with a complete disregard for the impact that propagating conspiracy theories to those (who aren't the shiniest pins in the cushion) in relatively privileged countries will have on the human beings in low income countries.

I kinda enjoyed that run-on sentence.
Thank you for the FACTS, jac.wave

The OP is a BS merchant for sure.
Jun 21, 2021 5:24 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
Bohemund: Wuhan Lab Found All Genes To Recreate ‘Epidemic Strain’ Of Coronavirus in 2017.

"... November 30th 2017 report reveals how data collected by Shi’s team enabled the lab to “make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain”:

“After five years of surveying bats in a cave in southern China’s Yunnan Province, Zhengli Shi and colleagues discovered 11 new strains of SARS-related viruses in horseshoe bats (especially in Rhinolophus sinicus). Within the strains, the researchers found all the genes to make a SARS coronavirus similar to the epidemic strain, says Shi, a virologist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences.

"These new strains are more similar to the human version of SARS than were previously identified bat viruses, says Matthew Frieman, a virologist at the University of Maryland in Baltimore.

"The article, which was recently wiped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s website, also notes that Shi and her colleagues found that “several of the strains” could grow in human cells."



So. If it's not clear by now, our government has been lying to us and actively suppressing the truth, to include simple, cheap and effective treatments (e.g. HCQ and Ivermectin), and so has the corporate media, and so have the Social Media Giants.

We've spent the last year or so under stringently restricted civil liberties, kids have lost an entire year in school and university, businesses' shuttered, many of which are not coming back, and family savings wiped out.

There is more, much more, where this came from.
doh rolling on the floor laughing laugh

Jun 21, 2021 5:38 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
The same people calling other people paranoid, are the same ones who have started seeing that it came from a lab... Way to go geniuses... tongue
Jun 21, 2021 5:52 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper: The 'epidemic strain' refers to the SARS epidemic 2002-2004.

Your point is...?

Actually, I can answer that: by implying that the strains found in 2017 refer to the pandemic strain(s) SARS-CoV-2, or covid19, rather than the epidemic strain of 2002-2004, you are trolling (using one of your profiles like you're having an angry little wank in front of your keyboard) with a complete disregard for the impact that propagating conspiracy theories to those (who aren't the shiniest pins in the cushion) in relatively privileged countries will have on the human beings in low income countries.

I kinda enjoyed that run-on sentence.
Plus the "MERS" epidemic which I think happened in 2012? From what I've read up on, scientists were working on a vaccine for Covid 2 but stopped when it seemed to disappear. I'm not sure but again, from what I've read up on, this is one of the reasons why we got a quick vaccine for covid 19 as they are all called "Corona Virus" and they had a bit of knowledge of them. and thank goodness for that thumbs up
Jun 21, 2021 6:01 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
mikey4691: The same people calling other people paranoid, are the same ones who have started seeing that it came from a lab... Way to go geniuses...
Yep! and some people just have to blame someone else thumbs up
I'll still enjoy a good ole Chinese Meal, as many other people will grin

Jun 21, 2021 6:11 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
Miss_Cellaneous: Yep! and some people just have to blame someone else
I'll still enjoy a good ole Chinese Meal, as many other people will
I knew you like meals... drinking
Jun 21, 2021 6:28 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
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I know Mikey has a real pic!rolling on the floor laughing
Embedded image from another site
Jun 21, 2021 6:29 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK20 Threads 6,847 Posts
Miss_Cellaneous: Plus the "MERS" epidemic which I think happened in 2012? From what I've read up on, scientists were working on a vaccine for Covid 2 but stopped when it seemed to disappear. I'm not sure but again, from what I've read up on, this is one of the reasons why we got a quick vaccine for covid 19 as they are all called "Corona Virus" and they had a bit of knowledge of them. and thank goodness for that
I have only read about the Oxford research and development, but yes, they were good to go with the basic vaccine in anticipation of another outbreak after SARS and MERS. I think it's a chimpanzee virus which has been weakened and only needed to be tweaked to be specific to covid19.

The good thing about the basic infrastructure already being available, and this applies to other vaccine brands as well, is that future variants can be reacted to with the same efficiency if necessary.

The Oxford/AstraZeneca also contains no animal products, no food allergens and is suitable for all faiths.

The other reason why vaccines were created so quickly was because the bureaucracy was bypassed with respect to funding. Instead of a year's worth of paperwork crawling it's way through a competitive system inbetween each trial phase, it was prioritised with government funding made available prior to the completion of due process.
Jun 21, 2021 6:47 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK20 Threads 6,847 Posts
IntoTheWoods: Thank you for the FACTS, jac.

The OP is a BS merchant for sure.
It's not about knowing the facts, it's about spotting the language used.

Mrs.Le Grys grooming me to eagerly work my way through hundreds and hundreds of English Comprehension exercises in junior school seems to have paid off. giggle
Jun 21, 2021 7:02 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
mikey4691: I knew you like meals...
Oh! I could die for a Taco Bell meal right now lol. I used to sneak all the green sauces from there. Put them in my suitcase. Land in the Uk and hoping they wouldn't pick them up on the scanner laugh Then fly back to Spain. I don't need to do all that now. One trip from the Uk to America cheering

We ain't all that bad you know laugh Only when you piss us off grin

Pity this video wasn't the Phillies grin

Jun 21, 2021 7:05 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper: I have only read about the Oxford research and development, but yes, they were good to go with the basic vaccine in anticipation of another outbreak after SARS and MERS. I think it's a chimpanzee virus which has been weakened and only needed to be tweaked to be specific to covid19.

The good thing about the basic infrastructure already being available, and this applies to other vaccine brands as well, is that future variants can be reacted to with the same efficiency if necessary.

The Oxford/AstraZeneca also contains no animal products, no food allergens and is suitable for all faiths.

The other reason why vaccines were created so quickly was because the bureaucracy was bypassed with respect to funding. Instead of a year's worth of paperwork crawling it's way through a competitive system inbetween each trial phase, it was prioritised with government funding made available prior to the completion of due process.
Yeah, blame the critters of the forest.. They have strong shoulders.. Anyone with half a brain knows where that scum came from...
Jun 21, 2021 7:39 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK20 Threads 6,847 Posts
mikey4691: Yeah, blame the critters of the forest.. They have strong shoulders.. Anyone with half a brain knows where that scum came from...
Have you got qualifcations in muppetry, Mikey, or are you self-taught...? giggle

The chimp virus is the basis for the feckin' Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, you Gonzo clone. doh

It's weakened so it doesn't cause an immune response itself, but is used as the carrier for the covid info which creates the immune response to covid.

I've said all along that my money is on incompetence, or carelessness in research practise at the Wuhan lab as a potential source of the pandemic.

Blaming low income/status wet market dealers is a convenient option because powerless people have no voice.
Jun 21, 2021 7:58 PM CST Curiouser and Curiouser... they knew about all this in 2017
jac_the_gripper: I have only read about the Oxford research and development, but yes, they were good to go with the basic vaccine in anticipation of another outbreak after SARS and MERS. I think it's a chimpanzee virus which has been weakened and only needed to be tweaked to be specific to covid19.

The good thing about the basic infrastructure already being available, and this applies to other vaccine brands as well, is that future variants can be reacted to with the same efficiency if necessary.

The Oxford/AstraZeneca also contains no animal products, no food allergens and is suitable for all faiths.

The other reason why vaccines were created so quickly was because the bureaucracy was bypassed with respect to funding. Instead of a year's worth of paperwork crawling it's way through a competitive system inbetween each trial phase, it was prioritised with government funding made available prior to the completion of due process.
I'm not a scientist so it's not my place to comment on anything. I just think that the Uk has done well in the past 12 months. As for the Government, again, i'm not political minded. I just know that the Uk is doing the best that it can, no matter who is in Government. Boris has made many mistakes but who doesn't? Anyone can argue this point till the cows come home.

I've had both my jabs, both Astra Zeneca and I'm happy. We don't know what's in those jabs, we just have to take it or leave it. The choice is up to you or I.bouquet
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