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Aug 27, 2021 1:53 AM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: I guess there's always a buck to be made.$$$$

"The notorious US mercenary firm Blackwater has prompted public outrage after reports said its head, Erik Prince, is charging $6,500 per person to fly people out of Afghanistan as the evacuation deadline looms amid the Taliban control."

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Aug 29, 2021 6:57 AM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: Afghanistan, as the Americans leave with their tails between their legs, like the Russians before them, what was it really all about?
A list of what was left behind...

Here is a more complete list of US-supplied and left behind equipment list now controlled by Taliban:
-2,000 Armored Vehicles Including Humvees and MRAP’s
-75,989 Total Vehicles: FMTV, M35, Ford Rangers, Ford F350, Ford Vans, Toyota Pickups, Armored Security Vehicles etc
-45 UH-60 Blachhawk Helicopters
-50 MD530G Scout Attack Choppers
-ScanEagle Military Drones
-30 Military Version Cessnas
-4 C-130’s
-29 Brazilian made A-29 Super Tocano Ground Attack Aircraft
=208+ Aircraft Total!!
-At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50 Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns and Ammunition
-61,000 M203 Rounds
-20,040 Grenades
-Howitzers
-Mortars +1,000’s of Rounds
-162,000 pieces of Encrypted Military Comunications Gear
-16,000+ Night Vision Goggles
-Newest Technology Night Vision Scopes
-Thermal Scopes and Thermal Mono Googles
-10,000 2.75 inch Air to Ground Rockets
-Recconaissance Equipment (ISR)
-Laser Aiming Units
-Explosives Ordnance C-4, Semtex, Detonators, Shaped Charges, Thermite, Incendiaries, AP/API/APIT
-2,520 Bombs
-Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops ALL operational
-Pallets with Millions of Dollars in US Currency
-Millions of Rounds of Ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600 rounds of 7.62mm, 9,000,000 rounds of 50.caliber
-Large Stockpile of Plate Carriers and Body Armor
-US Military HIIDE, for Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment Biometrics
-Lots of Heavy Equipment Including Bull Dozers, Backhoes, Dump Trucks, Excavators

uh oh
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Aug 29, 2021 7:16 AM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: A list of what was left behind...

Here is a more complete list of US-supplied and left behind equipment list now controlled by Taliban:
-2,000 Armored Vehicles Including Humvees and MRAP’s
-75,989 Total Vehicles: FMTV, M35, Ford Rangers, Ford F350, Ford Vans, Toyota Pickups, Armored Security Vehicles etc
-45 UH-60 Blachhawk Helicopters
-50 MD530G Scout Attack Choppers
-ScanEagle Military Drones
-30 Military Version Cessnas
-4 C-130’s
-29 Brazilian made A-29 Super Tocano Ground Attack Aircraft
=208+ Aircraft Total!!
-At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50 Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns and Ammunition
-61,000 M203 Rounds
-20,040 Grenades
-Howitzers
-Mortars +1,000’s of Rounds
-162,000 pieces of Encrypted Military Comunications Gear
-16,000+ Night Vision Goggles
-Newest Technology Night Vision Scopes
-Thermal Scopes and Thermal Mono Googles
-10,000 2.75 inch Air to Ground Rockets
-Recconaissance Equipment (ISR)
-Laser Aiming Units
-Explosives Ordnance C-4, Semtex, Detonators, Shaped Charges, Thermite, Incendiaries, AP/API/APIT
-2,520 Bombs
-Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops ALL operational
-Pallets with Millions of Dollars in US Currency
-Millions of Rounds of Ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600 rounds of 7.62mm, 9,000,000 rounds of 50.caliber
-Large Stockpile of Plate Carriers and Body Armor
-US Military HIIDE, for Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment Biometrics
-Lots of Heavy Equipment Including Bull Dozers, Backhoes, Dump Trucks, Excavators
Enough to start a war perhaps?

uh oh
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Aug 29, 2021 7:42 AM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: Enough to start a war perhaps?
Some kit to be sure.. I think maybe Pres Joe should got that stuff out first.. But..sigh
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Aug 29, 2021 7:52 AM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: Some kit to be sure.. I think maybe Pres Joe should got that stuff out first.. But..
Maybe, but wasnt all this weaponry originally in the hands of the Afghan Army?
If it was and Biden stripped them of it before pulling out I suspect there have been some kind of outcry about that also.
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Aug 29, 2021 7:56 AM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: Maybe, but wasnt all this weaponry originally in the hands of the Afghan Army?
If it was and Biden stripped them of it before pulling out I suspect there have been some kind of outcry about that also.
Catch 22, I guess he just thought "Let god sort it".
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Aug 29, 2021 8:04 AM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: Catch 22, I guess he just thought "Let god sort it".
Yes, inshallah.....to keep with the theme of the thread.

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Aug 29, 2021 8:06 AM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: Yes, inshallah.....to keep with the theme of the thread.
I think we're gonna need a bigger boat anyway..grin
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Aug 29, 2021 12:07 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
innocent sigh

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Aug 29, 2021 12:16 PM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Even in the 5th century BC they knew that.

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Aug 29, 2021 12:36 PM CST 20 years of failure
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: A list of what was left behind...

Here is a more complete list of US-supplied and left behind equipment list now controlled by Taliban:
-2,000 Armored Vehicles Including Humvees and MRAP’s
-75,989 Total Vehicles: FMTV, M35, Ford Rangers, Ford F350, Ford Vans, Toyota Pickups, Armored Security Vehicles etc
-45 UH-60 Blachhawk Helicopters
-50 MD530G Scout Attack Choppers
-ScanEagle Military Drones
-30 Military Version Cessnas
-4 C-130’s
-29 Brazilian made A-29 Super Tocano Ground Attack Aircraft
=208+ Aircraft Total!!
-At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50 Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns and Ammunition
-61,000 M203 Rounds
-20,040 Grenades
-Howitzers
-Mortars +1,000’s of Rounds
-162,000 pieces of Encrypted Military Comunications Gear
-16,000+ Night Vision Goggles
-Newest Technology Night Vision Scopes
-Thermal Scopes and Thermal Mono Googles
-10,000 2.75 inch Air to Ground Rockets
-Recconaissance Equipment (ISR)
-Laser Aiming Units
-Explosives Ordnance C-4, Semtex, Detonators, Shaped Charges, Thermite, Incendiaries, AP/API/APIT
-2,520 Bombs
-Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops ALL operational
-Pallets with Millions of Dollars in US Currency
-Millions of Rounds of Ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600 rounds of 7.62mm, 9,000,000 rounds of 50.caliber
-Large Stockpile of Plate Carriers and Body Armor
-US Military HIIDE, for Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment Biometrics
-Lots of Heavy Equipment Including Bull Dozers, Backhoes, Dump Trucks, Excavators
That's a lot of equipment and it would certainly prove useful I'm sure...I wonder though did they also leave behind the people who know how to use it, maintain it and repair it? And what about the consumables and spare parts? Is Maplin in Afghanistan I wonder? laugh
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Aug 29, 2021 12:45 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
blathin: That's a lot of equipment and it would certainly prove useful I'm sure...I wonder though did they also leave behind the people who know how to use it, maintain it and repair it? And what about the consumables and spare parts? Is Maplin in Afghanistan I wonder?
I'm sure those Afghan army boyo's that ran for the hills and are now abandoned know how to use them, surely they'll be back when their hungry, there are plenty of tutorials on YouTube anyway..uh oh laugh

I just saw this cartoon and it doesn't bare thinking about..sigh

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Aug 29, 2021 1:20 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
How The US Should Have Spent The Afghanistan War Budget

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Aug 29, 2021 1:34 PM CST 20 years of failure
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: I'm sure those Afghan army boyo's that ran for the hills and are now abandoned know how to use them, surely they'll be back when their hungry, there are plenty of tutorials on YouTube anyway..

I just saw this cartoon and it doesn't bare thinking about..
Doesn't indeed.. And don't doubt for one second they're not plotting. I'm wondering who their next target is going to be....Iran has nuclear don't they, so they'd be careful with that...Turkey is kinda running with the hare and chasing with the fox, so that could prove tricky..The US doesn't want to inadvertently upset either Europe or Russia....I'm guessing Turkey, given it's geographical location....but whoever it is..you wait, there'll be a reason hitting your tv screens once they've decided...

Just changed my mind...think it's going to be Iran....


Reading that sounds like I'm being facetious...I'm anything but...
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Aug 29, 2021 1:40 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
blathin: Doesn't indeed.. And don't doubt for one second they're not plotting. I'm wondering who their next target is going to be....Iran has nuclear don't they, so they'd be careful with that...Turkey is kinda running with the hare and chasing with the fox, so that could prove tricky..The US doesn't want to inadvertently upset either Europe or Russia....I'm guessing Turkey, given it's geographical location....but whoever it is..you wait, there'll be a reason hitting your tv screens once they've decided...

Just changed my mind...think it's going to be Iran....


Reading that sounds like I'm being facetious...I'm anything but...
Totally a scary time ahead, there's nothing like a war to appease the wolves, and Pres Joe has them on his heels..

I was gonna ask for "Thoughts and Prayers.. But...

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Aug 30, 2021 1:40 AM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: Even in the 5th century BC they knew that.
grin

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Aug 30, 2021 3:42 AM CST 20 years of failure
Sunnyside200
Sunnyside200Sunnyside200Faisalabad, Punjab Pakistan39 Threads 835 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: A list of what was left behind...

Here is a more complete list of US-supplied and left behind equipment list now controlled by Taliban:
-2,000 Armored Vehicles Including Humvees and MRAP’s
-75,989 Total Vehicles: FMTV, M35, Ford Rangers, Ford F350, Ford Vans, Toyota Pickups, Armored Security Vehicles etc
-45 UH-60 Blachhawk Helicopters
-50 MD530G Scout Attack Choppers
-ScanEagle Military Drones
-30 Military Version Cessnas
-4 C-130’s
-29 Brazilian made A-29 Super Tocano Ground Attack Aircraft
=208+ Aircraft Total!!
-At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50 Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns and Ammunition
-61,000 M203 Rounds
-20,040 Grenades
-Howitzers
-Mortars +1,000’s of Rounds
-162,000 pieces of Encrypted Military Comunications Gear
-16,000+ Night Vision Goggles
-Newest Technology Night Vision Scopes
-Thermal Scopes and Thermal Mono Googles
-10,000 2.75 inch Air to Ground Rockets
-Recconaissance Equipment (ISR)
-Laser Aiming Units
-Explosives Ordnance C-4, Semtex, Detonators, Shaped Charges, Thermite, Incendiaries, AP/API/APIT
-2,520 Bombs
-Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops ALL operational
-Pallets with Millions of Dollars in US Currency
-Millions of Rounds of Ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600 rounds of 7.62mm, 9,000,000 rounds of 50.caliber
-Large Stockpile of Plate Carriers and Body Armor
-US Military HIIDE, for Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment Biometrics
-Lots of Heavy Equipment Including Bull Dozers, Backhoes, Dump Trucks, Excavators
Add please one more thing
Reference google .

Afghanistan ashrif ghani army said that government not paid their salaries since last 6 months . Total Afghanistan army reached their pension age . They serve American's 20 years now my point is who give them old age funds . If all Afghanistan ex army goes to America labor court . I hope they will give them Justice and also they ordered to paying all old age funds and pensions. If they not paid it's human rights violation . And then human rights NGO will do strike for ex army of Afghanistan . I hope you add this seriously issue.

They deserve their old age funds and pensions . American leave 82 billions weapons if they Also add some more billions for pensions and old age benefits (funds ) . American is rich country. it's no problem for them . So please consider this issue .

It's a true matter. but it's a joke don't take seriously.

laugh laugh laugh bouquet
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Aug 30, 2021 3:50 AM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Sunnyside200: Add please one more thing
Reference google .

Afghanistan ashrif ghani army said that government not paid their salaries since last 6 months . Total Afghanistan army reached their pension age . They serve American's 20 years now my point is who give them old age funds . If all Afghanistan ex army goes to America labor court . I hope they will give them Justice and also they ordered to paying all old age funds and pensions. If they not paid it's human rights violation . And then human rights NGO will do strike for ex army of Afghanistan . I hope you add this seriously issue.

They deserve their old age funds and pensions . American leave 82 billions weapons if they Also add some more billions for pensions and old age benefits (funds ) . American is rich country. it's no problem for them . So please consider this issue .

It's a true matter. but it's a joke don't take seriously.
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Aug 31, 2021 11:07 AM CST 20 years of failure
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
It’s not 20 years .. wars have been ongoing for hundreds , if not thousands of years .
People can be evacuated for some respite, but in the end , the only people that can escape war are the dead .
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