Name_Taken_Too: Yes there is always a bigger picture, and you have mentioned some fair points, seeing the fear there in streets is so sad.. I remember it wasn't so long ago that Maggie Thatcher was calling the Mujaheddin "Freedom Fighters" and the ANC terrorists, it's a topsy turvy world I guess..
Political madness with so many agendas like a mosaic. Take one out and another one appears.
Why do Americans always take everything as an attack on them? It's their foreign policy that makes people dislike the country, but I think the people are just great..
Name_Taken_Too: Why let the truth get in the way of a good story? I'm sure a lot of them went on to be Taliban..
Yes they did, but at that time the were only interested in getting rid of the Russians. I certainly would'nt like to hang out with the Taliban like we did with the Mujahideen....
bodleing2: Yes they did, but at that time the were only interested in getting rid of the Russians. I certainly would'nt like to hang out with the Taliban like we did with the Mujahideen....
All I was asking was what was achieved in 20 years of American occupation?, simple question, and got attacked from the usual corners.. I see people calling for China to be Nuked and for President Joe to catch Covid and die and yet I'm the bad guy..
Name_Taken_Too: All I was asking was what was achieved in 20 years of American occupation?, simple question, and got attacked from the usual corners.. I see people calling for China to be Nuked and for President Joe to catch Covid and die and yet I'm the bad guy..
I think the simple answer to that is, compared to the cost in lives lost, nothing was achieved.
Name_Taken_Too: Exactly my thoughts, it's like deja vu for the people there, one set of oppressors leave and another takes over.. Bless those Afghans..
I feel for those who helped the coalition forces, interpreters etc. Most of them, have been abandoned and left to face the wrath of the Taliban. I was listening to a phone in on radio 4 last week. A guy phoned in who was a close friend of an Afghani who had been working as an interpreter. He said his friends cousin who lives in a town taken by the Taliban had his hand cut of because of his family ties. Even though his friend had been issued a visa and could escape the country it was impossible for him to do so as all flights were taken up by mainly westerners and many government official. He and many others were just stuck waiting for the inevitable Taliban reprisals.
bodleing2: I feel for those who helped the coalition forces, interpreters etc. Most of them, have been abandoned and left to face the wrath of the Taliban. I was listening to a phone in on radio 4 last week. A guy phoned in who was a close friend of an Afghani who had been working as an interpreter. He said his friends cousin who lives in a town taken by the Taliban had his hand cut of because of his family ties. Even though his friend had been issued a visa and could escape the country it was impossible for him to do so as all flights were taken up by mainly westerners and many government official. He and many others were just stuck waiting for the inevitable Taliban reprisals.
It is a brutal situation for those you mention, someone said similar yesterday about how many refugees will be made, who will have to trek to some kind of safety only to find their way blocked at every border, it is the ordinary people that suffer to be sure.. My heart goes out to them, and with the pandemic still taking hold of most of the world it doesn't bare thinking about..
PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
Strange thing is that even with Russia fighting the Taliban, and Europe/America/Australia for the last 20 years, they retreated, and within 2 weeks the Afghan Govt. had to go to Tadjikistan, totally defeated. So all the fighting in Afghanistan against the Taliban has been for nothing, A waste of time, money and lives.
Name_Taken_Too: Afghanistan, as the Americans leave with their tails between their legs, like the Russians before them, what was it really all about?
USA Australian British 110 billions Us dollars funding for Afghanistan army . A YouTube news channel giving news . If this amount use for poor countries people . How happy this world .
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