20 years of failure ( Archived) (284)

Aug 15, 2021 2:35 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too: Yes there is always a bigger picture, and you have mentioned some fair points, seeing the fear there in streets is so sad.. I remember it wasn't so long ago that Maggie Thatcher was calling the Mujaheddin "Freedom Fighters" and the ANC terrorists, it's a topsy turvy world I guess..
Political madness with so many agendas like a mosaic. Take one out and another one appears.
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Aug 15, 2021 2:35 PM CST 20 years of failure
I was a Lancer in Belfast. 1975/76
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Aug 15, 2021 2:37 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
1721Lancer: I was a Lancer in Belfast. 1975/76
I know you were, but where does that come into it? I remember fighting with you're lot as a kid..wink
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Aug 15, 2021 2:38 PM CST 20 years of failure
1721Lancer: I was a Lancer in Belfast. 1975/76
Interesting
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Aug 15, 2021 2:41 PM CST 20 years of failure
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
1721Lancer: I was a Lancer in Belfast. 1975/76
With lots of Irish blood on your hands too no doubt....
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Aug 15, 2021 3:33 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
I'll just leave this here so..wink thumbs up

Embedded image from another site
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Aug 15, 2021 3:42 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
comfort bouquet
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Aug 15, 2021 3:47 PM CST 20 years of failure
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
You hate the USA and beautiful Israel. You make me barf
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Aug 15, 2021 3:48 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
galrads: You hate the USA and beautiful Israel. You make me
You're bro, doesn't make them true, yes I do hate oppression that's for sure.. hug comfort
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Aug 15, 2021 3:51 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
Why do Americans always take everything as an attack on them? It's their foreign policy that makes people dislike the country, but I think the people are just great..heart beating peace
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Aug 15, 2021 3:53 PM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: I'll just leave this here so..
Not the Taliban. I met and enjoyed the company of the Mujahideen in 1991. At that time the Taliban had not been formed.
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Aug 15, 2021 3:54 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: Not the Taliban. I met and enjoyed the company of the Mujahideen in 1991. At that time the Taliban had not been formed.
Why let the truth get in the way of a good story? I'm sure a lot of them went on to be Taliban..grin
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Aug 15, 2021 4:01 PM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: Why let the truth get in the way of a good story? I'm sure a lot of them went on to be Taliban..
Yes they did, but at that time the were only interested in getting rid of the Russians. I certainly would'nt like to hang out with the Taliban like we did with the Mujahideen....uh oh
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Aug 15, 2021 4:07 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: Yes they did, but at that time the were only interested in getting rid of the Russians. I certainly would'nt like to hang out with the Taliban like we did with the Mujahideen....
All I was asking was what was achieved in 20 years of American occupation?, simple question, and got attacked from the usual corners.. I see people calling for China to be Nuked and for President Joe to catch Covid and die and yet I'm the bad guy..sigh
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Aug 15, 2021 4:19 PM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: All I was asking was what was achieved in 20 years of American occupation?, simple question, and got attacked from the usual corners.. I see people calling for China to be Nuked and for President Joe to catch Covid and die and yet I'm the bad guy..
I think the simple answer to that is, compared to the cost in lives lost, nothing was achieved.

sigh
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Aug 15, 2021 4:21 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: I think the simple answer to that is, compared to the cost in lives lost, nothing was achieved.
Exactly my thoughts, it's like deja vu for the people there, one set of oppressors leave and another takes over.. Bless those Afghans..handshake
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Aug 15, 2021 4:35 PM CST 20 years of failure
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: Exactly my thoughts, it's like deja vu for the people there, one set of oppressors leave and another takes over.. Bless those Afghans..
I feel for those who helped the coalition forces, interpreters etc. Most of them, have been abandoned and left to face the wrath of the Taliban. I was listening to a phone in on radio 4 last week. A guy phoned in who was a close friend of an Afghani who had been working as an interpreter. He said his friends cousin who lives in a town taken by the Taliban had his hand cut of because of his family ties.
Even though his friend had been issued a visa and could escape the country it was impossible for him to do so as all flights were taken up by mainly westerners and many government official. He and many others were just stuck waiting for the inevitable Taliban reprisals.
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Aug 15, 2021 4:41 PM CST 20 years of failure
Name_Taken_Too
Name_Taken_TooName_Taken_TooBelfast, Down Ireland60 Threads 2,893 Posts
bodleing2: I feel for those who helped the coalition forces, interpreters etc. Most of them, have been abandoned and left to face the wrath of the Taliban. I was listening to a phone in on radio 4 last week. A guy phoned in who was a close friend of an Afghani who had been working as an interpreter. He said his friends cousin who lives in a town taken by the Taliban had his hand cut of because of his family ties.
Even though his friend had been issued a visa and could escape the country it was impossible for him to do so as all flights were taken up by mainly westerners and many government official. He and many others were just stuck waiting for the inevitable Taliban reprisals.
It is a brutal situation for those you mention, someone said similar yesterday about how many refugees will be made, who will have to trek to some kind of safety only to find their way blocked at every border, it is the ordinary people that suffer to be sure.. My heart goes out to them, and with the pandemic still taking hold of most of the world it doesn't bare thinking about..sigh
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Aug 15, 2021 5:51 PM CST 20 years of failure
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Strange thing is that even with Russia fighting the Taliban, and Europe/America/Australia for the last 20 years, they retreated, and within 2 weeks the Afghan Govt. had to go to Tadjikistan, totally defeated. So all the fighting in Afghanistan against the Taliban has been for nothing, A waste of time, money and lives.
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Aug 16, 2021 1:58 AM CST 20 years of failure
Sunnyside200
Sunnyside200Sunnyside200Faisalabad, Punjab Pakistan39 Threads 835 Posts
Name_Taken_Too: Afghanistan, as the Americans leave with their tails between their legs, like the Russians before them, what was it really all about?
USA Australian British 110 billions Us dollars funding for Afghanistan army . A YouTube news channel giving news . If this amount use for poor countries people . How happy this world .
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