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online now!online now!FadedbluejeansNorth Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 4 Polls 1,473 PostsJac . To answer my suggestion of fear of reprisal there are doctors in Canada who are getting their license revoked for doing their job with honor. Also as far as wanting proof having the fella who created the Ebola vaccine on the panel sounds good enough to me. Unless that was a lie. I never verified the man.
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A statement is made about covid not being a medical pandemic, but a fear pandemic. That statement isn't argued, nor evidenced before moving on to how the pandemic has psycholgically impacted upon children.
The implication is that fear is screwing children up and that the psychiatrist's paediatric patients are evidence of this. That incomplete anecdotal statement can easily be countered by my own, more complete version: The children I have contact with rarely show any signs of anxiety regarding covid itself and are remarkably cognisant of protcols which protect themselves and others. They have, however, become frustrated with social isolation and forgtten some of their social skills. Everytime schools have reopened, it seems fights break out in the payground until they readjust to the school group setting where they don't get to socially dominate.
The psychiatrist mentions a study about a reduction of 20 IQ points in babies born after January 1st 2020 as compared with those born before. He mentions that they don't see faces, they don't play, they don't have exposure to friends, they don't go to school and that they are locked in their homes looking at their parents' faces for a year and a half as the reason for this.
I'd be surprised if babies 0-18 months of age go to school. Babies 0-18 months have maybe had more contact with older siblings because of school closures, more play with them, more faces to look at. He's using the deprivations of older children to explan the alleged IQ reduction in younger children. If those deprivations impacted upon IQ you'd expect the older children to be develpmentally delayed, not the younger.
The video goes on to the only female panelist. Just as she gets to explaining her nebulous statement about the damage caused to children by covid protocols, the video is edited and she's heard saying more nebulous introductory statements.
11 minutes (that's a quarter of the way) in and this video has no substance, other than vaccuous statements, no reasoned, or evidentiary argument and blatantly misleading editing/causal links.
The implication is that fear is screwing children up and that the psychiatrist's paediatric patients are evidence of this. That incomplete anecdotal statement can easily be countered by my own, more complete version: The children I have contact with rarely show any signs of anxiety regarding covid itself and are remarkably cognisant of protcols which protect themselves and others. They have, however, become frustrated with social isolation and forgtten some of their social skills. Everytime schools have reopened, it seems fights break out in the payground until they readjust to the school group setting where they don't get to socially dominate.
The psychiatrist mentions a study about a reduction of 20 IQ points in babies born after January 1st 2020 as compared with those born before. He mentions that they don't see faces, they don't play, they don't have exposure to friends, they don't go to school and that they are locked in their homes looking at their parents' faces for a year and a half as the reason for this.
I'd be surprised if babies 0-18 months of age go to school. Babies 0-18 months have maybe had more contact with older siblings because of school closures, more play with them, more faces to look at. He's using the deprivations of older children to explan the alleged IQ reduction in younger children. If those deprivations impacted upon IQ you'd expect the older children to be develpmentally delayed, not the younger.
The video goes on to the only female panelist. Just as she gets to explaining her nebulous statement about the damage caused to children by covid protocols, the video is edited and she's heard saying more nebulous introductory statements.
11 minutes (that's a quarter of the way) in and this video has no substance, other than vaccuous statements, no reasoned, or evidentiary argument and blatantly misleading editing/causal links.
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Fadedbluejeans: Jac . To answer my suggestion of fear of reprisal there are doctors in Canada who are getting their license revoked for doing their job with honor. Also as far as wanting proof having the fella who created the Ebola vaccine on the panel sounds good enough to me. Unless that was a lie. I never verified the man.
I don't know anything about doctors getting their licenses revoked in Canada, so you'll need to give me more informatin before I can comment on that.The fella who created the ebola vaccine may well be on the panel, but that doesn't mean the video hasn't been edited and his 'opinion' altered as a result. You need to look at the presentation, not just the status of the people on the panel.
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Jacs A doctor in a town near me had been suspended. I did not agree with the entire video including your point of childrens IQ being affected. I know how resilient kids are and stuff.
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Anyhow I don't think Selenite wanted this thread to be a debate.
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Fadedbluejeans: Anyhow I don't think Selenite wanted this thread to be a debate.
Selenite posted a video of a panel debate.How can this thread not be meant to be about debate?
Why are you trying to shut me down for pointing out the editing, manipulation techniques, bias and resulting blatantly false information in this video?
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Fadedbluejeans: Anyhow I don't think Selenite wanted this thread to be a debate.
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jac_the_gripper: Selenite posted a video of a panel debate.
How can this thread not be meant to be about debate?
Why are you trying to shut me down for pointing out the editing, manipulation techniques, bias and resulting blatantly false information in this video?
One more point I agree with is the video was obviously edited and thankfully. It probably took 2 hours of discussion with that audience.How can this thread not be meant to be about debate?
Why are you trying to shut me down for pointing out the editing, manipulation techniques, bias and resulting blatantly false information in this video?
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mikey4691: Oh, you've stepped in deep dookey now...
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Fadedbluejeans: One more point I agree with is the video was obviously edited and thankfully. It probably took 2 hours of discussion with that audience.
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To me the most interesting point was from the fact mentioned that the Vaccines spike protein was biological and that the experts were very surprised to find that out after the vaccine was approved.
What that means I don't know but it sounds serious.
What that means I don't know but it sounds serious.
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Fadedbluejeans: To me the most interesting point was from the fact mentioned that the Vaccines spike protein was biological and that the experts were very surprised to find that out after the vaccine was approved.
What that means I don't know but it sounds serious.
I'll take that shot after they get the handcuffs on me... What that means I don't know but it sounds serious.
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Fadedbluejeans: To me the most interesting point was from the fact mentioned that the Vaccines spike protein was biological and that the experts were very surprised to find that out after the vaccine was approved.
What that means I don't know but it sounds serious.
What was actually said was that no one realised the spike protein was biolgically active. What that means I don't know but it sounds serious.
Proteins are one of the four main biological molecules, along with carbohydrates, lipids and neucleic acids because they are produced by cells and living organisms. It's no surprise that the spike protein produced by the virus cell is biological.
A biolgically active protein is one that can change in structure and therefore have changing properties.
I think what is being said by Dr.Robert Malone, although it's difficult to tell given the editing, is that for various reasons, including the biologcal activity within the spike protein, the virus is changing more rapidly than expected giving rise to lots of variants.
The 'flu vaccine gets tweaked every year to account for the particular strain that has evolved that season, but so far covid virus changes have occurred faster than covid vaccine changes. That means vaccination strategy needs to take that into account.
He's saying using the same vaccines as third boosters is less effective than targetting the vaccination programme globally, that is, at the most vulnerable people in low income countries. It's the only sensible thing that's been said/portrayed during the first quarter of this video.
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jac_the_gripper: Selenite posted a video of a panel debate.
How can this thread not be meant to be about debate?
Why are you trying to shut me down for pointing out the editing, manipulation techniques, bias and resulting blatantly false information in this video?
We don't know that the editing results into sharing "blatantly false information" unless the 8 doctors and scientists who were filmed come forward and say that the way the video was edited changes the meaning of the information they were trying to convey...How can this thread not be meant to be about debate?
Why are you trying to shut me down for pointing out the editing, manipulation techniques, bias and resulting blatantly false information in this video?
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Selenite: We don't know that the editing results into sharing "blatantly false information" unless the 8 doctors and scientists who were filmed come forward and say that the way the video was edited changes the meaning of the information they were trying to convey...
Nakey pics or it ain't so.. 
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mikey4691: Nakey pics or it ain't so..
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Selenite: You're incorrigeable!!
True that... 
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Selenite: We don't know that the editing results into sharing "blatantly false information" unless the 8 doctors and scientists who were filmed come forward and say that the way the video was edited changes the meaning of the information they were trying to convey...
I was being kind and realistic in terms of probabilities.The alternative is that, the psychiatrist in particular, was deliberately misleading the audience and touting false claims.
The IQ of 0-18 month old children can't fall because of being denied formal schooling during the pandemic because they wouldn't be going to school at their age anyway.
I won't bother going into all the permutations of developmental stages, play groups, siblings, day care, etc.. It would point to the same flagrant misinformation mongering.
The point is that the sequence of the psychiatrist's statements was clearly meaningless whether he put that rubbish together himself, or it was edited by someone else to promote false beliefs. I'd like to think it was the editing, rather than a psychiatrist trying to dupe viewers for obvious ethical code of conduct reasons.
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I have asked some of these questions of other novices like myself. My biggest issue, how can healthy, normal, intelligent professionals working within healthcare who stand to gain nothing, accept that the vaccine is the only way to avoid infection and that the vaccine is safe? Why no Government advice and support to strengthening the immune system? why the total dismissal about treatments like hydroxychloroquine?
Thank you, I'll definitely share this. Great to hear experts ask the questions.
Thank you, I'll definitely share this. Great to hear experts ask the questions.
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jac_the_gripper: I was being kind and realistic in terms of probabilities.
The alternative is that, the psychiatrist in particular, was deliberately misleading the audience and touting false claims.
The IQ of 0-18 month old children can't fall because of being denied formal schooling during the pandemic because they wouldn't be going to school at their age anyway.
I won't bother going into all the permutations of developmental stages, play groups, siblings, day care, etc.. It would point to the same flagrant misinformation mongering.
The point is that the sequence of the psychiatrist's statements was clearly meaningless whether he put that rubbish together himself, or it was edited by someone else to promote false beliefs. I'd like to think it was the editing, rather than a psychiatrist trying to dupe viewers for obvious ethical code of conduct reasons.
Jac I'm sure a psychiatrist, as well as everyone else, knows that a 0-18 month old child doesn't go to school. The alternative is that, the psychiatrist in particular, was deliberately misleading the audience and touting false claims.
The IQ of 0-18 month old children can't fall because of being denied formal schooling during the pandemic because they wouldn't be going to school at their age anyway.
I won't bother going into all the permutations of developmental stages, play groups, siblings, day care, etc.. It would point to the same flagrant misinformation mongering.
The point is that the sequence of the psychiatrist's statements was clearly meaningless whether he put that rubbish together himself, or it was edited by someone else to promote false beliefs. I'd like to think it was the editing, rather than a psychiatrist trying to dupe viewers for obvious ethical code of conduct reasons.
I don't know enough children to see first hand the effects of the "pandemic" as I no longer work in education so I won't voice an opinion.
Everyone is free to watch and listen to the video and draw their own conclusions. I'm not going to argue in favour or against the contents of the video or the conclusions that people draw
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