jac_the_gripper: No, masks, social distancing, handwashing and other hygiene practises.
And maybe praying for a bitterly cold winter would be better, at least with respect to some microbes. It's good to have a clear out and we're likely susceptible to lots of bugs and stuff at the moment given 18 months of avoidance.
Because what lepers are is the opposite of authority, they're the anti-policeman personified. That's the point is that you're not suspicious of everyone you meet. If anything it's trusting and open to a fault, the endurance of those who suffer is even more of a man than the regular guy. And it'll cost you
The truth is that once you've endured enough suffering you begin to call the whole world brother. But this is not the time to be a Charles Dickens or Freddie Mercury. It goes against everything we are supposed to be.
My own personal experience with the "covid virus" is varied.
I know people who've passed away (my Dad - aged nearly 91 who had other health conditions) and I know people who have tested positive and had mild symptoms or others who have been very sick and others who have tested positive but had no symptoms whatsoever. Also some family members who were hospitalised then made it home (some youngish and some aged) ... I also know people who have been vaccinated and have been more sick with and after the vaccine than they were when they tested postive to covid.
When my Dad passed away both my Mum and brother tested positive but were asymptomatic. I was visiting from Spain (negative test in order to travel) to go to my father's funeral. I was staying at the house with my Mum and brother. I had to decide if I was going to "put a barrier" between me and my own flesh and blood or share the hugs and the love we all needed after losing our Dad and my Mum her husband. I decided to share the love My sister and other brother are vaccinated but I'm not and I won't be. My mother is not but is now immune. I refused to wear a mask indoors and shared the hugs and the caring for my Mum (aged 88) and supporting my brother who lives there (my other siblings live elsewhere). By the time I left, their viral load had reached immunity levels and my own test result was negative (so I could fly back ) Btw I hugged everyone and anyone who visited and/or came to my father's funeral, without fear.
Did I take a gamble? May be... or may be the immune boosting "stuff" - echinacea and mega quercetin- I have been taking for the last year and half did their job ...
DedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia5,492 posts
I haven't posted here cause im on my coffee+schnapps+cigarette, break
just kidding, my doctor told me to cut down on coffee,schnapps and smokes
Bazinga, i dont really have a doctor ,i have a immune system
And our Immune system has to work, exercise ,just like a muscle,if there are no germs,bacterias ,viruses ,our defence mechanism dystrophies or in some cases,when we get injected with experimental fluids ( gene therapy) ,our immune system turns against us and starts attacking healthy cells
Selenite: My own personal experience with the "covid virus" is varied.
I know people who've passed away (my Dad - aged nearly 91 who had other health conditions) and I know people who have tested positive and had mild symptoms or others who have been very sick and others who have tested positive but had no symptoms whatsoever. Also some family members who were hospitalised then made it home (some youngish and some aged) ... I also know people who have been vaccinated and have been more sick with and after the vaccine than they were when they tested postive to covid.
When my Dad passed away both my Mum and brother tested positive but were asymptomatic. I was visiting from Spain (negative test in order to travel) to go to my father's funeral. I was staying at the house with my Mum and brother. I had to decide if I was going to "put a barrier" between me and my own flesh and blood or share the hugs and the love we all needed after losing our Dad and my Mum her husband. I decided to share the love My sister and other brother are vaccinated but I'm not and I won't be. My mother is not but is now immune. I refused to wear a mask indoors and shared the hugs and the caring for my Mum (aged 88) and supporting my brother who lives there (my other siblings live elsewhere). By the time I left, their viral load had reached immunity levels and my own test result was negative (so I could fly back ) Btw I hugged everyone and anyone who visited and/or came to my father's funeral, without fear.
Did I take a gamble? May be... or may be the immune boosting "stuff" - echinacea and mega quercetin- I have been taking for the last year and half did their job ...
Dedovix: I haven't posted here cause im on my coffee+schnapps+cigarette, break
just kidding, my doctor told me to cut down on coffee,schnapps and smokes
Bazinga, i dont really have a doctor ,i have a immune system
And our Immune system has to work, exercise ,just like a muscle,if there are no germs,bacterias ,viruses ,our defence mechanism dystrophies or in some cases,when we get injected with experimental fluids ( gene therapy) ,our immune system turns against us and starts attacking healthy cells
I once went to the Doc's for something (I can't remember what) and when he brought up my file he was confused because there was no data about me and I'd been registered about 9 or 10 years
He was even more confused when he asked what medication I'm on and I said "none" He was insisting that a woman "my age" would be on some medication of "some kind". I was like "Nope!! Not even the pill as I don't need it anymore!" He was Then insisted I should have a full blood count check up so I allowed them to take a bit of blood and waited for results. The Doc was already excited thinking what meds he was going to be able to put me on
Then the results came!! The look on his face! He said in a really disappointed voice "Everything is fine" "all the levels of everything are good"
I laughed at him and told him he could at least pretend to be excited that I was in brilliant health
The moral of this story? Docs like to prescribe drugs to feel "useful" and that is not a good thing
Dedovix: ...or in some cases,when we get injected with experimental fluids ( gene therapy) ,our immune system turns against us and starts attacking healthy cells
Selenite: From Wiki: Coronaviruses die quickly when exposed to the UV light in sunlight. Like other enveloped viruses, SARS-CoV-2 survives longest when the temperature is at room temperature 0r lower, and when the relative humidity is low (<50%) ...
And that brings us onto another incoherence when lockdowns force people to stay indoors and out of the sunlight in optimum conditions for virus load multiplication
We didn't have to stay indoors.Even with our most severe restrictions we could go out for exercise once a day and be in gardens/on balconies.
People tend to stay in during the winter through choice, restrictions, or not. Not being able to go to the cinema, or a pub doesn't change that.
Selenite: My own personal experience with the "covid virus" is varied.
I know people who've passed away (my Dad - aged nearly 91 who had other health conditions) and I know people who have tested positive and had mild symptoms or others who have been very sick and others who have tested positive but had no symptoms whatsoever. Also some family members who were hospitalised then made it home (some youngish and some aged) ... I also know people who have been vaccinated and have been more sick with and after the vaccine than they were when they tested postive to covid.
When my Dad passed away both my Mum and brother tested positive but were asymptomatic. I was visiting from Spain (negative test in order to travel) to go to my father's funeral. I was staying at the house with my Mum and brother. I had to decide if I was going to "put a barrier" between me and my own flesh and blood or share the hugs and the love we all needed after losing our Dad and my Mum her husband. I decided to share the love My sister and other brother are vaccinated but I'm not and I won't be. My mother is not but is now immune. I refused to wear a mask indoors and shared the hugs and the caring for my Mum (aged 88) and supporting my brother who lives there (my other siblings live elsewhere). By the time I left, their viral load had reached immunity levels and my own test result was negative (so I could fly back ) Btw I hugged everyone and anyone who visited and/or came to my father's funeral, without fear.
Did I take a gamble? May be... or may be the immune boosting "stuff" - echinacea and mega quercetin- I have been taking for the last year and half did their job ...
I won't live in fear
I'm sorry for your loss, Sel.
I don't wear a mask, or socially distance when I'm with my family, but I do everywhere else, as do the other adults in the family.
Do I take a gamble? Maybe, but it does reduce the odds when we proceed with some caution. That's not the same as living in fear.
jac_the_gripper: We didn't have to stay indoors.Even with our most severe restrictions we could go out for exercise once a day and be in gardens/on balconies.
People tend to stay in during the winter through choice, restrictions, or not. Not being able to go to the cinema, or a pub doesn't change that.
Here in Spain we were only allowed to shop for food in the nearest shop to our home and take a dog out for a walk round the block once a day for a whole 3 months. Some families live in flats in large towns with no balconies or gardens. Who's talking about cinema or pubs? I doubt people were desperate to go out with their children so they could go get indoors at the cinema or go for a pint. Here there are many family oriented coffee bars/restaurants as Spain is a very sociable nation where people go out a lot as a family. Several generation of people together ... They don't stay indoors unless it rains A LOT ... And it doesn't often rain a lot for any length of time ... in spite of the few flash floods of the last few years ...
I don't wear a mask, or socially distance when I'm with my family, but I do everywhere else, as do the other adults in the family.
Do I take a gamble? Maybe, but it does reduce the odds when we proceed with some caution. That's not the same as living in fear.
I think everyone needs to do what they feel comfortable with. I'm sorry what I wrote sounded like someone wearing a mask does so out of fear. Everyone has their reasons and needs not justify themselves. I chose to only wear one when I have to ie in shops/hospitals (when I translate for people)/ public offices etc.
Selenite: Here in Spain we were only allowed to shop for food in the nearest shop to our home and take a dog out for a walk round the block once a day for a whole 3 months. Some families live in flats in large towns with no balconies or gardens. Who's talking about cinema or pubs? I doubt people were desperate to go out with their children so they could go get indoors at the cinema or go for a pint. Here there are many family oriented coffee bars/restaurants as Spain is a very sociable nation where people go out a lot as a family. Several generation of people together ... They don't stay indoors unless it rains A LOT ... And it doesn't often rain a lot for any length of time ... in spite of the few flash floods of the last few years ...
I didn't see my family for the first four months of the pandemic, but that was over a year ago.
I guess you have a lot of outdoor seating areas in coffee bars/restaurants. That's beginning to catch on here, but our streets aren't always appropriate for that, especially here in Wales. Pubs often have beer gardens and they have been open for meals/drinks on and off throughout the pandemic.
My point about cinemas and pubs is that if people go out in the winter, they tend to go in. It rains a lot here, so people are going to be indoors somewhere a lot of the time.
How do Spanish dogs only go to the toilet once a day?
DedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia5,492 posts
jac_the_gripper: Have you got a source/link to go with that, Dedo?
you want a link to my claims that what is pushed through as a vaccine is a experimental drug or that our immune system starts working against us when we receive a gene altering serum ?
By the way did you know that there is a 5 million reward for whoever proves covid virus ?
Dedovix: you want a link to my claims that what is pushed through as a vaccine is a experimental drug or that our immune system starts working against us when we receive a gene altering serum ?
By the way did you know that there is a 5 million reward for whoever proves covid virus ?
I'm interested in the autoimmune claim, if you have a link for that.
Is it only linked with mRNA vaccines, or is there a link with all vaccines and/or the disease itself?
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