8 prominent Doctors and scientists ... (191)
Selenite: CDC REPORT
28x more fully vaxxed than unvaxxed were hospitalised with covid June to Septembre.
A study that was created to encourage people to get vaxxed and backfired ...
If the link doesn't work just type the sentence above and the article comes up in a search...
I read the report and i kinda liked this paragraph ( liked as in it was sticking out )28x more fully vaxxed than unvaxxed were hospitalised with covid June to Septembre.
A study that was created to encourage people to get vaxxed and backfired ...
If the link doesn't work just type the sentence above and the article comes up in a search...
Out of 201,269 people hospitalized with “COVID-19-like illness” from January to September (2021) in 9 states, just 1,020 (0.5%) of the hospitalizations occurred in unvaccinated people previously infected with COVID. This is a remarkably small number considering the CDC has estimated 120.2 million Americans (36.8% of the US population) had already been infected with COVID by late May.
covid like illness
seems we`re going to the - if you have no symptoms of the infection , that's a symptom and you could be infected
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Dedovix: I read the report and i kinda liked this paragraph ( liked as in it was sticking out )
Out of 201,269 people hospitalized with “COVID-19-like illness” from January to September (2021) in 9 states, just 1,020 (0.5%) of the hospitalizations occurred in unvaccinated people previously infected with COVID. This is a remarkably small number considering the CDC has estimated 120.2 million Americans (36.8% of the US population) had already been infected with COVID by late May.
covid like illness
seems we`re going to the - if you have no symptoms of the infection , that's a symptom and you could be infected
those "New Variants" go through Vaccinations like a Fart through Undies!Out of 201,269 people hospitalized with “COVID-19-like illness” from January to September (2021) in 9 states, just 1,020 (0.5%) of the hospitalizations occurred in unvaccinated people previously infected with COVID. This is a remarkably small number considering the CDC has estimated 120.2 million Americans (36.8% of the US population) had already been infected with COVID by late May.
covid like illness
seems we`re going to the - if you have no symptoms of the infection , that's a symptom and you could be infected
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I've had four vaccinations now, the first two then the booster and then the normal flu vacs, there's a sign no more room on my arm
Of course, I use the normal herbal remedies also,
I can do no more
Of course, I use the normal herbal remedies also,
I can do no more
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Selenite: CDC REPORT
28x more fully vaxxed than unvaxxed were hospitalised with covid June to Septembre.
A study that was created to encourage people to get vaxxed and backfired ...
If the link doesn't work just type the sentence above and the article comes up in a search...
28 times more than the previously infected. Obviously the sticking point there is that you have to get infected first.28x more fully vaxxed than unvaxxed were hospitalised with covid June to Septembre.
A study that was created to encourage people to get vaxxed and backfired ...
If the link doesn't work just type the sentence above and the article comes up in a search...
Which is why they're trying to keep omicron down. On the one hand it's a live vaccine that will give humanity far greater protection without making anybody any profit, and on the other hand it's nature asking you to grasp the nettle. When everything we have known is debt and how to defer all problems to a later date.
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Conrad73: those "New Variants" go through Vaccinations like a Fart through Undies!
knitted undies 
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Selenite: 8 prominent doctors and scientists engage in a remarkable exchange ...
Just over 45 min long ... well worth a watch/listen till the end ...
I didnt watch the whole thing. I watched the beginning and the end. If there were actual exchanges, and there may have been, i didnt see them. I only saw people promoting covid in general. and promoting covid vaccines. I dont trust them at all. I forgot to say, the vid's unavailable at least on my computer, but i found it elsewhere. Anyway, how do i know they're for real? And if real, how do i know they are telling the truth? How do i know if it's the whole truth? How do i know which parts are true? Just over 45 min long ... well worth a watch/listen till the end ...
I DONT TRUST THEM.
The only thing i can trust is they are SAYING, this person is this professional, that person is another. How do i know what they are saying is true? Because they SAID so? I would have to guess, most or all of them are pretty much who they say they are, but that is just a guess. Beyond that, i trust nothing. The ONLY people i saw and heard speak are pro vaccine. Maybe i missed some who are not pro-vaccine?
Anyway, IF they only had pro-vaccine people there, that would make me even more suspicious of them, and their statements.
What if they had 500, or 5000 people, who all agreed that vaccines and masks are absolutely necessary (and therefore, should be mandatory?) I dont trust them from the very start. That is MY opinion. MY instincts.
I believe fauci, biden, etc changed their stories at least once. That doesn't make me trust them any MORE.
Just like Global Warming. FIRST it's called Global Warming.
But the weather didnt cooperate with their lying AGENDA. So they changed the name to Chimate Change?!?! And you STILL believe them?
Didnt biden say among other things he would NOT mandate masks and/or vaccines? Were there not top people like biden and/or fauci who said we wouldnt be wearing masks for long? Lockdown wont last long?
I could look up every piddling detail to make it more clear but why bother? Most wont listen anyway. After hearing lie after lie, deception after deception, inconsistency after inconsistency, i dont trust! If you still trust them, and i suspect many of you do, then i do not know what else to say to you.
Jesus Christ. Good Luck!
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Manipulation of the statistics so as to inflate non-covid case numbers has been crude and blatant.
By treating the recently vaccinated (or people with less than the current requirement of shots) as unvaccinated is a gross scientific fraud.
By treating the recently vaccinated (or people with less than the current requirement of shots) as unvaccinated is a gross scientific fraud.
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Dedovix: I read the report and i kinda liked this paragraph ( liked as in it was sticking out )
Out of 201,269 people hospitalized with “COVID-19-like illness” from January to September (2021) in 9 states, just 1,020 (0.5%) of the hospitalizations occurred in unvaccinated people previously infected with COVID. This is a remarkably small number considering the CDC has estimated 120.2 million Americans (36.8% of the US population) had already been infected with COVID by late May.
covid like illness
seems we`re going to the - if you have no symptoms of the infection , that's a symptom and you could be infected
Out of 201,269 people hospitalized with “COVID-19-like illness” from January to September (2021) in 9 states, just 1,020 (0.5%) of the hospitalizations occurred in unvaccinated people previously infected with COVID. This is a remarkably small number considering the CDC has estimated 120.2 million Americans (36.8% of the US population) had already been infected with COVID by late May.
covid like illness
seems we`re going to the - if you have no symptoms of the infection , that's a symptom and you could be infected
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tomcatty: I've had four vaccinations now, the first two then the booster and then the normal flu vacs, there's a sign no more room on my arm
Of course, I use the normal herbal remedies also,
I can do no more
Each person should be able to choose freely Of course, I use the normal herbal remedies also,
I can do no more
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Master_Troll: I didnt watch the whole thing. I watched the beginning and the end. If there were actual exchanges, and there may have been, i didnt see them. I only saw people promoting covid in general. and promoting covid vaccines. I dont trust them at all. I forgot to say, the vid's unavailable at least on my computer, but i found it elsewhere. Anyway, how do i know they're for real? And if real, how do i know they are telling the truth? How do i know if it's the whole truth? How do i know which parts are true?
I DONT TRUST THEM.
The only thing i can trust is they are SAYING, this person is this professional, that person is another. How do i know what they are saying is true? Because they SAID so? I would have to guess, most or all of them are pretty much who they say they are, but that is just a guess. Beyond that, i trust nothing. The ONLY people i saw and heard speak are pro vaccine. Maybe i missed some who are not pro-vaccine?
Anyway, IF they only had pro-vaccine people there, that would make me even more suspicious of them, and their statements.
What if they had 500, or 5000 people, who all agreed that vaccines and masks are absolutely necessary (and therefore, should be mandatory?) I dont trust them from the very start. That is MY opinion. MY instincts.
I believe fauci, biden, etc changed their stories at least once. That doesn't make me trust them any MORE.
Just like Global Warming. FIRST it's called Global Warming.
But the weather didnt cooperate with their lying AGENDA. So they changed the name to Chimate Change?!?! And you STILL believe them?
Didnt biden say among other things he would NOT mandate masks and/or vaccines? Were there not top people like biden and/or fauci who said we wouldnt be wearing masks for long? Lockdown wont last long?
I could look up every piddling detail to make it more clear but why bother? Most wont listen anyway. After hearing lie after lie, deception after deception, inconsistency after inconsistency, i dont trust! If you still trust them, and i suspect many of you do, then i do not know what else to say to you.
Jesus Christ. Good Luck! See ya!
I DONT TRUST THEM.
The only thing i can trust is they are SAYING, this person is this professional, that person is another. How do i know what they are saying is true? Because they SAID so? I would have to guess, most or all of them are pretty much who they say they are, but that is just a guess. Beyond that, i trust nothing. The ONLY people i saw and heard speak are pro vaccine. Maybe i missed some who are not pro-vaccine?
Anyway, IF they only had pro-vaccine people there, that would make me even more suspicious of them, and their statements.
What if they had 500, or 5000 people, who all agreed that vaccines and masks are absolutely necessary (and therefore, should be mandatory?) I dont trust them from the very start. That is MY opinion. MY instincts.
I believe fauci, biden, etc changed their stories at least once. That doesn't make me trust them any MORE.
Just like Global Warming. FIRST it's called Global Warming.
But the weather didnt cooperate with their lying AGENDA. So they changed the name to Chimate Change?!?! And you STILL believe them?
Didnt biden say among other things he would NOT mandate masks and/or vaccines? Were there not top people like biden and/or fauci who said we wouldnt be wearing masks for long? Lockdown wont last long?
I could look up every piddling detail to make it more clear but why bother? Most wont listen anyway. After hearing lie after lie, deception after deception, inconsistency after inconsistency, i dont trust! If you still trust them, and i suspect many of you do, then i do not know what else to say to you.
Jesus Christ. Good Luck! See ya!
At the beginning they may be saying they are pro-vaxx or not against vaxx because otherwise they'd be labelled conspiracy theorists ... I can't remember how the video starts..
It's worth listening to the rest of the video ... because they are totally NOT supporting what is going on at the moment ...
Anyway I posted some new info published by the CDC and put it on this thread ...
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Everything we read and hear regarding the virus is just pure speculation.
Only with time will the real facts come out.
Only with time will the real facts come out.
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Selenite: Each person should be able to choose freely
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tomcatty: My opinion is it should be recommended for the sake of everyone, but refusal in certain areas should mean instant dismissalJMO
Since The last publication in the medical journal The Lancet in November 2021 carried the following words: "Vaccinated people who become ill with covid carry the same viral load as non-vaccinated people and are as contagious as non-vaccinate people", I don't understand how being vaccinated would be "for the sake of everyone". It appears the vaccine may be protecting only those vaccinated from becoming as ill if if they weren't IF it's true that they work. 
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Youcannow: Everything we read and hear regarding the virus is just pure speculation.
Only with time will the real facts come out.
Only with time will the real facts come out.
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Selenite: At the beginning ....
It's worth listening to the rest of the video ... because they are totally NOT supporting what is going on at the moment ...
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I cannot see the video here.It's worth listening to the rest of the video ... because they are totally NOT supporting what is going on at the moment ...
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Can you give me some more info so tha I can find it on the net?
Thanks
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Selenite: Each person should be able to choose freely
Health and social care workers, including volunteers who have face-to-face contact with service users, will need to provide evidence they have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to be deployed, under new measures announced todayMeasure aims to ensure patients and staff are protected against infection
Deadline for care home workers to be double jabbed is Thursday 11 November
Almost 90% of NHS staff are already double jabbed
Health and social care providers in England will be required to ensure workers are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, unless they are exempt, under plans announced by the Health and Social Care Secretary.
Ensuring the maximum number of NHS staff are vaccinated will help ensure the most vulnerable patients gain the greatest possible levels of protection against infection. Elderly people, those with disabilities and some seriously ill people in hospital face a higher risk from COVID-19 than the wider population, and are more likely to use health and care services more often.
The measures will also protect workers, which is important for hospital trusts where extensive unexpected absences can put added pressure on already hardworking clinicians providing patient care.
The vaccination programme has been successful in weakening the link between infection, hospitalisation and deaths. Findings from the REACT study have shown fully vaccinated people were estimated to have around 50% to 60% reduced risk of infection, including asymptomatic infection, compared to unvaccinated people.
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Ivoryguy: I cannot see the video here.
Can you give me some more info so tha I can find it on the net?
Thanks
Type on a google search: Can you give me some more info so tha I can find it on the net?
Thanks
Cov 19 Conversations: 8 Prominent Doctors & Scientists Engage in a Remarkable Exchange.
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RE - Findings from the REACT study have shown fully vaccinated people were estimated to have around 50% to 60% reduced risk of infection, including asymptomatic infection, compared to unvaccinated people.
Estimated!
Just like the Catholic Church in the 1600s estimated that the sun revolved around the earth and anyone who dissented ran the risk of being burned at the stake.
Those eight doctors, and many more like them, risk losing their licenses and having their careers destroyed simply because they disagree with the narrative that has enriched drug companies and politicians beyond belief.
Estimated!
Just like the Catholic Church in the 1600s estimated that the sun revolved around the earth and anyone who dissented ran the risk of being burned at the stake.
Those eight doctors, and many more like them, risk losing their licenses and having their careers destroyed simply because they disagree with the narrative that has enriched drug companies and politicians beyond belief.
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tomcatty: Health and social care workers, including volunteers who have face-to-face contact with service users, will need to provide evidence they have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to be deployed, under new measures announced today
Measure aims to ensure patients and staff are protected against infection
Deadline for care home workers to be double jabbed is Thursday 11 November
Almost 90% of NHS staff are already double jabbed
Health and social care providers in England will be required to ensure workers are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, unless they are exempt, under plans announced by the Health and Social Care Secretary.
Ensuring the maximum number of NHS staff are vaccinated will help ensure the most vulnerable patients gain the greatest possible levels of protection against infection. Elderly people, those with disabilities and some seriously ill people in hospital face a higher risk from COVID-19 than the wider population, and are more likely to use health and care services more often.
The measures will also protect workers, which is important for hospital trusts where extensive unexpected absences can put added pressure on already hardworking clinicians providing patient care.
The vaccination programme has been successful in weakening the link between infection, hospitalisation and deaths. Findings from the REACT study have shown fully vaccinated people were estimated to have around 50% to 60% reduced risk of infection, including asymptomatic infection, compared to unvaccinated people.
Exactly what it says in the article. The "vaccine" protects only those vaccinated and nobody else. If the vaccine actually did what it says there would be nobody in hospitals at the moment vaccinated and with covid. Vaccinated asymptomatic workers could be carrying the same viral load as someone unvaccinated and spreading it through the wards Measure aims to ensure patients and staff are protected against infection
Deadline for care home workers to be double jabbed is Thursday 11 November
Almost 90% of NHS staff are already double jabbed
Health and social care providers in England will be required to ensure workers are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, unless they are exempt, under plans announced by the Health and Social Care Secretary.
Ensuring the maximum number of NHS staff are vaccinated will help ensure the most vulnerable patients gain the greatest possible levels of protection against infection. Elderly people, those with disabilities and some seriously ill people in hospital face a higher risk from COVID-19 than the wider population, and are more likely to use health and care services more often.
The measures will also protect workers, which is important for hospital trusts where extensive unexpected absences can put added pressure on already hardworking clinicians providing patient care.
The vaccination programme has been successful in weakening the link between infection, hospitalisation and deaths. Findings from the REACT study have shown fully vaccinated people were estimated to have around 50% to 60% reduced risk of infection, including asymptomatic infection, compared to unvaccinated people.
They make it sound failproof but it isn't I don't think...
In Spain a very high % of the older population has been vaccinated.
Because of my translating work I'm often in hospitals waiting rooms with (often English) patients so I can translate when they see a specialist or need to go to A&E.
So I'm used to seeing hospital waiting rooms full of sick people.
Last month I was waiting in A&E with an English gentleman and I was so shocked by what I saw.
The waiting room was FULL of older people (most probably all double jabbed because 90% of the population is in Spain) who were too ill or weak to walk by themselves and had to be in wheelchairs. I have NEVER EVER seen that in the hospitals of this area in the last 14 years I've been translating before 2021.
I came to the conclusion that the jabs were making older people very sick or weak and none of them had "flu' like symptoms" because they have a different waiting area for suspected covid...
I respect your opinion and perception although I don't agree with it
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