Ok no offense intended I'll put my head on the line; because by deduction my own reasoning tells me that Buddhism goes a very long long way back in time. Way back in history all of India at one stage was Buddhist. Long Long way back e.g. check this site out. An Asian and African studies blog link:
And so the Persians invaded and over many months and months chopped the heads off all the Buddhist Teachers, Monks & Nuns. 650 BCE, the Zoroastrian faith, a monotheistic religion founded on the ideas of the philosopher Zoroaster, had become the official religion of ancient Persia. After invading India the Persians destroyed almost all the scriptures and tore down all the Buddhist temples. So I am suggesting that Hinduism was founded while under Persian rulers, at that time, the Persians accepted Hinduism that still embraced some aspects of early Buddhism including the notion of a god, a creator, in fact many gods, so thought I'm probably bit of the mark, i think Hinduism later greatly influenced Buddhist thought. ( I expect a lot of grey areas in above)
I have Dr. Alexander Berzin he is an American and i believe he is well versed in Buddhism.
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What's your opinion as a 'Fijian Indian' regarding whether or not 'Fijian Indians' should be classed and/or classified as "Pacific Islanders"?
I've never been to India or Fiji but India has always been a mystery to me especially with the many cultures, religions and intelligence for example. I've always been fascinated by the Sikhs.
What's your opinion as a 'Fijian Indian' regarding whether or not 'Fijian Indians' should be classed and/or classified as "Pacific Islanders"?
I've never been to India or Fiji but India has always been a mystery to me especially with the many cultures, religions and intelligence for example. I've always been fascinated by the Sikhs.
Actually "Pacific Islander" is mostly refers the indigenous people of the Pacific.
"Fijian Indian" or "Fijian Indians" is matter mostly of personal choice.
suryavarman: Actually "Pacific Islander" is mostly refers the indigenous people of the Pacific.
"Fijian Indian" or "Fijian Indians" is matter mostly of personal choice.
I only mentioned that because in NZ, our universities offer scholarships to Pacific Islanders and "Fijian Indians" were claiming the same status as "Pacific Islanders".
Calling someone a Hindu, is like calling every indigenous person in North and South America Indians. A broad brush applied indiscriminately by Westerners that did not know or care to know about any of the peoples.
Caprikious: Calling someone a Hindu, is like calling every indigenous person in North and South America Indians. A broad brush applied indiscriminately by Westerners that did not know or care to know about any of the peoples.
For a long time the residents of Utah were collectively referred to as “Those Mormons”. Now, the state is roughly 85% LDS, but it’s still not all of them!
MrBoDangles: I only mentioned that because in NZ, our universities offer scholarships to Pacific Islanders and "Fijian Indians" were claiming the same status as "Pacific Islanders".
Myself I'm not trying make arguments because the few times that I visited India I didn't study Hinduism or Buddhism. Later I made extensive Buddhist studies here in Australia, studied both Lam Rim and introduction to Tantra. The point i tried to make was that Buddhism dates back over billion years, long long time, and that Hindu teaching (I think) developed after the Persians invaded India, the latter killed all the Buddhist Teachers, Monks and Nuns. However Buddhism had also spread further south, to what today called Indonesia. Later Indonesia was invaded by Arabs and Islam killed all the Buddhist. However also in Indonesia Hinduism flourished. When I first visited Bali the were next to no Muslim, second time i visited, lots of ladies of the night from Jataka had invaded Bali. Now mostly the residence in Bali are Muslim. I think so. Doctor Google please produce temple spelling, oh yes Borobudur, also transcribed Barabudur is a 7th-century Mahayana Buddhist temple in Magelang Regency, not far from the town of Muntilan, in Central Java... The world's largest Buddhist temple is located in the old-world of Indonesia's central Java. Called the Borobudur, it is a ninth-century Mahanaya Buddhist temple, high up in the hills. It was restored with the help of UNESCO in the 1970s, and is a sight that is much sought after by pilgrims and adventurers alike. Muslim have previously blown Borobudur up and has been partly rebuilt, yes i visited there, look picture this page : -
So I am not trying to make argument rather i am to make the point Buddhism preceded Hinduism.
Buddhist do accept the notion of a one creator, they don't accept that notion. And Shakyamuni Buddha the third Buddha known to have physically appeared I understand was born noble Sultan family southern Nepal Sultan. Then one day Buddha noticed sick and poor people so according to Buddhist texts, the Buddha meditated without moving from his seat for seven weeks (49 days) under the Bodhi tree etc etc EOE
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