For the past 6 years or so I been a sort of surrogate daddy to a little girl that has now turned 9, I dated her step mother for around 3 years on and off including us living together for around 2 years as a family when her step mother and father split up and when we ourselves split up I carried on seeing the little girl most weekends for 2 or 3 sleepovers and the occasional few days and nights during the school holidays for a further 3 years or so. I have been in the child's life just over 6 years now and we love and adore each other as if we were blood related and although she doesn't call me daddy she always introduces me as such to her friends.I have more or less taught her all the life skills she now has from reading and writing, tying her shoe laces, riding a bike, swimming, telling the time etc but now her step mother (who owes me 13,000 euros and refuses to pay me back) has decided I can no longer see the little girl and is keeping her away from me which is breaking my heart and is obviously not doing the child any good.
I am just wondering that although we weren't married and I am not blood related I still took the little girl on and brought her up as my own including living with her for 2 years as I say and doing all the daddy stuff from changing nappies and putting her to bed at night and reading bedtime stories to clothing, bathing, feeding her etc if there is there any action I can take or people I can talk to or am I entitled to any sort of access?
I would also like to point out that when her step mother went back to the UK on 2 different occasions once for 3 weeks and another time for a week she left the child with me and was very happy to do so.
At the end of the day her step mother and I have been arguing about the money she owes me for several months now and a few nasty names and words have been exchanged which is why she seems to have done this, it is the only way she can hurt me and she is using it to her full advantage..
Icebucket: For the past 6 years or so I been a sort of surrogate daddy to a little girl that has now turned 9, I dated her step mother for around 3 years on and off including us living together for around 2 years as a family when her step mother and father split up and when we ourselves split up I carried on seeing the little girl most weekends for 2 or 3 sleepovers and the occasional few days and nights during the school holidays for a further 3 years or so. I have been in the child's life just over 6 years now and we love and adore each other as if we were blood related and although she doesn't call me daddy she always introduces me as such to her friends.I have more or less taught her all the life skills she now has from reading and writing, tying her shoe laces, riding a bike, swimming, telling the time etc but now her step mother (who owes me 13,000 euros and refuses to pay me back) has decided I can no longer see the little girl and is keeping her away from me which is breaking my heart and is obviously not doing the child any good.
I am just wondering that although we weren't married and I am not blood related I still took the little girl on and brought her up as my own including living with her for 2 years as I say and doing all the daddy stuff from changing nappies and putting her to bed at night and reading bedtime stories to clothing, bathing, feeding her etc if there is there any action I can take or people I can talk to or am I entitled to any sort of access?
I would also like to point out that when her step mother went back to the UK on 2 different occasions once for 3 weeks and another time for a week she left the child with me and was very happy to do so.
At the end of the day her step mother and I have been arguing about the money she owes me for several months now and a few nasty names and words have been exchanged which is why she seems to have done this, it is the only way she can hurt me and she is using it to her full advantage..
Probably not, although I’m not in the know about your country’s laws. In The U.S. the other side of the coin is that if you discover later that a child you’ve been supporting as your own, married or not, is actually NOT yours, family court will still impose financial obligations for the child, on you. But it is extremely difficult (although there are a few rare cases) for a non- custodial “ friend” to be given any equitability concerning someone else’s child(ren), particularly if that parent is opposed to it. Mean, yes. Damaging to the child? Yes. Law is strict in family court here, specifically with minors. Men are frequently given the shaft…
Sorry for your hardship, by the way. Life is very, very tough. Choose your next partner very, very carefully. Research her. Separate the wheat from the chafe.
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
I know very little, if anything, about this branch of law, but I have heard that the court seeks first to act in best interests of the child. Don't know if thats of any help or not. Best wishes to you.
I agree with rohaan as you can't trust family court here in Australia either, the judges lie all the time and strip families of all there asserts when one parent objects, lawyers practicing in family law in Australia biggest thrives in the country...second to none and the judges are just bloated lawyers dressed in wigs
I'm a little confused as to why a stepmother who no longer lives with the father of the little girl you speak of, gets to have a say in who the child spends time with :confused especially considering she no longer lives with the father of the child. Did she get custody instead of the father?
Selenite: I'm a little confused as to why a stepmother who no longer lives with the father of the little girl you speak of, gets to have a say in who the child spends time with :confused especially considering she no longer lives with the father of the child. Did she get custody instead of the father?
I thought this rather odd, but then realized she may be a widow, or, she was indeed awarded custody, which occurs here in the U.S. as well. But, primarily only step- mothers. As I said before, child relationships with men, even natural fathers, are seldom awarded in custody battles. Men/ fathers are not generally dealt with equitably in America. I don’t mean anything by this— it’s just the way it is here.
rohaan: I thought this rather odd, but then realized she may be a widow, or, she was indeed awarded custody, which occurs here in the U.S. as well. But, primarily only step- mothers. As I said before, child relationships with men, even natural fathers, are seldom awarded in custody battles. Men/ fathers are not generally dealt with equitably in America. I don’t mean anything by this— it’s just the way it is here.
Things are changing in England and France.... with either joint custody or sometimes the Dad being favoured over the Mum...
Icebucket: For the past 6 years or so I been a sort of surrogate daddy to a little girl that has now turned 9, I dated her step mother for around 3 years on and off including us living together for around 2 years as a family when her step mother and father split up and when we ourselves split up I carried on seeing the little girl most weekends for 2 or 3 sleepovers and the occasional few days and nights during the school holidays for a further 3 years or so. I have been in the child's life just over 6 years now and we love and adore each other as if we were blood related and although she doesn't call me daddy she always introduces me as such to her friends.I have more or less taught her all the life skills she now has from reading and writing, tying her shoe laces, riding a bike, swimming, telling the time etc but now her step mother (who owes me 13,000 euros and refuses to pay me back) has decided I can no longer see the little girl and is keeping her away from me which is breaking my heart and is obviously not doing the child any good.
I am just wondering that although we weren't married and I am not blood related I still took the little girl on and brought her up as my own including living with her for 2 years as I say and doing all the daddy stuff from changing nappies and putting her to bed at night and reading bedtime stories to clothing, bathing, feeding her etc if there is there any action I can take or people I can talk to or am I entitled to any sort of access?
I would also like to point out that when her step mother went back to the UK on 2 different occasions once for 3 weeks and another time for a week she left the child with me and was very happy to do so.
At the end of the day her step mother and I have been arguing about the money she owes me for several months now and a few nasty names and words have been exchanged which is why she seems to have done this, it is the only way she can hurt me and she is using it to her full advantage..
You are now 63 years old. You said that you were in the life of a child for 12 years when she was young enough to wear nappies.
You want to be in this girls life now but I figure her to be over the age of 18.
The description in the Thread stated clearly that "the little girl that has now turned 9" .. But some comments mentioned that the girl almost 18 years old , by their calculation !!! There is a BIG Difference between 9 years and 18 years ... What is the real age of that girl right now !!
But anyway.. As I've seen some TV programs about similar legal matters in western society , I've got the idea that , in such cases law won't help much .. No visiting rights or custody ... As you are not biological father and you have never been married with the biological mother/legal guardian of the child..
Unless if you can prove that the guardian of the minor child has a bad reputation or bad influence over the child .. At the same time , you need to prove yourself the only best person to be trusted with the child..
I think , an informal settlement with the mother/stepmother might be your only chance.. If you could convince her ..
Otherwise , it might be better that you prepare yourself to accept the situation and move on..
I'm feeling sad for you.. I know , feelings can not be restricted always by legal calculation or social conditions.. Sometimes , a complete stranger can become closer to your heart than any blood relative ...
The description in the Thread stated clearly that "the little girl that has now turned 9" .. But some comments mentioned that the girl almost 18 years old , by their calculation !!! There is a BIG Difference between 9 years and 18 years ... What is the real age of that girl right now !!
But anyway.. As I've seen some TV programs about similar legal matters in western society , I've got the idea that , in such cases law won't help much .. No visiting rights or custody ... As you are not biological father and you have never been married with the biological mother/legal guardian of the child..
Unless if you can prove that the guardian of the minor child has a bad reputation or bad influence over the child .. At the same time , you need to prove yourself the only best person to be trusted with the child..
I think , an informal settlement with the mother/stepmother might be your only chance.. If you could convince her ..
Otherwise , it might be better that you prepare yourself to accept the situation and move on..
I'm feeling sad for you.. I know , feelings can not be restricted always by legal calculation or social conditions.. Sometimes , a complete stranger can become closer to your heart than any blood relative ...
But .. Life is As it is...
Thank you for your comments and also thank you for reading my post properly. I took the little girl on over 6 years ago when she was 3 she is now 9.
Icebucket: For the past 6 years or so I been a sort of surrogate daddy to a little girl that has now turned 9, I dated her step mother for around 3 years on and off including us living together for around 2 years as a family when her step mother and father split up and when we ourselves split up I carried on seeing the little girl most weekends for 2 or 3 sleepovers and the occasional few days and nights during the school holidays for a further 3 years or so. I have been in the child's life just over 6 years now and we love and adore each other as if we were blood related and although she doesn't call me daddy she always introduces me as such to her friends.I have more or less taught her all the life skills she now has from reading and writing, tying her shoe laces, riding a bike, swimming, telling the time etc but now her step mother (who owes me 13,000 euros and refuses to pay me back) has decided I can no longer see the little girl and is keeping her away from me which is breaking my heart and is obviously not doing the child any good.
I am just wondering that although we weren't married and I am not blood related I still took the little girl on and brought her up as my own including living with her for 2 years as I say and doing all the daddy stuff from changing nappies and putting her to bed at night and reading bedtime stories to clothing, bathing, feeding her etc if there is there any action I can take or people I can talk to or am I entitled to any sort of access?
I would also like to point out that when her step mother went back to the UK on 2 different occasions once for 3 weeks and another time for a week she left the child with me and was very happy to do so.
At the end of the day her step mother and I have been arguing about the money she owes me for several months now and a few nasty names and words have been exchanged which is why she seems to have done this, it is the only way she can hurt me and she is using it to her full advantage..
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I am just wondering that although we weren't married and I am not blood related I still took the little girl on and brought her up as my own including living with her for 2 years as I say and doing all the daddy stuff from changing nappies and putting her to bed at night and reading bedtime stories to clothing, bathing, feeding her etc if there is there any action I can take or people I can talk to or am I entitled to any sort of access?
I would also like to point out that when her step mother went back to the UK on 2 different occasions once for 3 weeks and another time for a week she left the child with me and was very happy to do so.
At the end of the day her step mother and I have been arguing about the money she owes me for several months now and a few nasty names and words have been exchanged which is why she seems to have done this, it is the only way she can hurt me and she is using it to her full advantage..