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Oct 30, 2021 8:06 AM CST Suffering ----))))
''You can not suffer the past or
future because they do not exist.
What you are suffering is your
memory and your imagination.


11:11:tiphat:
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Oct 30, 2021 8:33 AM CST Suffering ----))))
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
All suffering (except physical pain of course) is about the future or the past.
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Oct 30, 2021 9:04 AM CST Suffering ----))))
bodleing2: All suffering (except physical pain of course) is about the future or the past.
But I meant its the mind thinking of the past or future in the present moment, as in memory and imagination
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Oct 30, 2021 9:13 AM CST Suffering ----))))
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
pedro27: But I meant its the mind thinking of the past or future in the present moment, as in memory and imagination
Indeed, but where else can the suffering be other than in the mind?
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Oct 30, 2021 9:20 AM CST Suffering ----))))
bodleing2: Indeed, but where else can the suffering be other than in the mind?
That's what I learnt since 2010 I brainwashed myself to feel well in what I learnt

I can see the bigger picture since 2010

I made friends with my mind, my heart was always going to follow

cheers
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Oct 30, 2021 9:24 AM CST Suffering ----))))
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
pedro27: That's what I learnt since 2010 I brainwashed myself to feel well in what I learnt

I can see the bigger picture since 2010

I made friends with my mind, my heart was always going to follow
Well it seems to me it is possible to go through suffering from the past into the present and continue into the future.
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Oct 30, 2021 9:32 AM CST Suffering ----))))
tomcatty: Well it seems to me it is possible to go through suffering from the past into the present and continue into the future.
One can learn to feel well with what they learn from life's journey

State of mind and heart is key IMOcool
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Oct 30, 2021 9:40 AM CST Suffering ----))))
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Define suffering (other than physical pain)
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Oct 30, 2021 9:52 AM CST Suffering ----))))
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Selenite: Define suffering (other than physical pain)
Attachment, unreasonable desire, jealousy, hatred, anger...and many more delusions. All come out of ignorance.
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Oct 30, 2021 9:57 AM CST Suffering ----))))
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
bodleing2: Attachment, unreasonable desire, jealousy, hatred, anger...and many more delusions. All come out of ignorance.
Thank you Bod. I'm not sure I would call them delusions because they feel very real. I prefer "misguided". It sounds less like making light of the suffering that is being felt until it is no longer necessary...
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Oct 30, 2021 9:58 AM CST Suffering ----))))
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
What about you Pedro. How would you define suffering?
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Oct 30, 2021 10:03 AM CST Suffering ----))))
Selenite: Define suffering (other than physical pain)
The mind Selenite suffering in the mind
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Oct 30, 2021 10:20 AM CST Suffering ----))))
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
pedro27: The mind Selenite suffering in the mind
I know it's in the mind. But what is it that's in the mind that makes you experience suffering?
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Oct 30, 2021 10:32 AM CST Suffering ----))))
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
pedro27: The mind Selenite suffering in the mind
you want an explanation, suffering an take many guises.
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Oct 30, 2021 10:32 AM CST Suffering ----))))
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
tomcatty: you want an explanation, suffering can take many guises.
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Oct 30, 2021 10:34 AM CST Suffering ----))))
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Selenite: Thank you Bod. I'm not sure I would call them delusions because they feel very real. I prefer "misguided". It sounds less like making light of the suffering that is being felt until it is no longer necessary...
It's a Buddhist term, particularly from Kadampa Buddhism....

"Delusion A mental factor that arises from inappropriate attention and functions to make the mind unpeaceful and uncontrolled. There are three main delusions: ignorance, desirous attachment, and anger. From these arise all the other delusions, such as jealousy, pride, and deluded doubt. See also Innate delusions and Intellectually-formed delusions. See Understanding the Mind."

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Oct 30, 2021 10:39 AM CST Suffering ----))))
Selenite: I know it's in the mind. But what is it that's in the mind that makes you experience suffering?
one can be

Genetics is the study of how different qualities, called traits, are passed down from parents to child. Genetics helps explain what makes you unique, why family members look alike, and why some diseases run in families. When we trace the paths of these qualities, we are following packages of information called genes.
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Oct 30, 2021 10:43 AM CST Suffering ----))))
tomcatty: you want an explanation, suffering an take many guises.
My mission is simple I suffered now I don't and I found the right path, i am pleased with myself 2021


dancing
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Oct 30, 2021 11:03 AM CST Suffering ----))))
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
pedro27: My mission is simple I suffered now I don't and I found the right path, i am pleased with myself 2021
Well done Pedrothumbs up
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Oct 30, 2021 11:07 AM CST Suffering ----))))
tomcatty: Well done Pedro
thumbs up


i found my way


cheers
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