I can now add myself to the list of knowing people killed by the jab. (164)
blathin: ^^^^^^That's someone saying a whole lot of absolutely nothing about something they clearly know nothing about but want to sound like they do..........
Followed by:blathin: Why? Because I'll decide what I'll write on here and what I won't...
I never said it was sound anything, so stop trying to put words in my mouth.
And save your stupid sarcasm for someone it'll work on...it doesn't have any effect on me at all..other than to make you look like a most distasteful character....
Jac, the world of research is very different to how you might visualise it...It's often a pompous supervisor whose whole raison d'etre is to find funding and makes their team's life a misery and in many cases turned it into a box ticking exercise. Great supervisors/P.I's are as rare as hen's teeth these days..
There's a phrase in research "publish or die"..and it doesn't matter what the quality of work is or how thorough it is , if the PhD's don't get published they're kicked to the kerb....and many even have to find their own funding...so they get sick and tired of it, the pressure and leave to go work in the private sector.....
So if that research team (I haven't watched the video) have used only 15 and come up with something of note then it's probably doing better than many many many others...not that that's the right way to do anything....
But this covid is very new and it's amazing what they've learned about it and even come up with a variety of vaccines so quickly...
Something doesn't have to be journal published to be good and worth serious attention...and what journals are you talking about, there are some really poor standard journals out there...Peer review is probably a more credible route to go but who's doing the reviewing though, I can assure you it's rarely someone who understands it as well as you would expect....
I'm afraid a certain margin of hit and miss is probably the best you're going to get right now given the seriousness of this pandemic...and us the people are going to have to accept that we're on the edge of being the guinea pigs..
If you watch the video, you might see that my post was specifically referring to the video. I did make that clear in my post.I never said it was sound anything, so stop trying to put words in my mouth.
And save your stupid sarcasm for someone it'll work on...it doesn't have any effect on me at all..other than to make you look like a most distasteful character....
Jac, the world of research is very different to how you might visualise it...It's often a pompous supervisor whose whole raison d'etre is to find funding and makes their team's life a misery and in many cases turned it into a box ticking exercise. Great supervisors/P.I's are as rare as hen's teeth these days..
There's a phrase in research "publish or die"..and it doesn't matter what the quality of work is or how thorough it is , if the PhD's don't get published they're kicked to the kerb....and many even have to find their own funding...so they get sick and tired of it, the pressure and leave to go work in the private sector.....
So if that research team (I haven't watched the video) have used only 15 and come up with something of note then it's probably doing better than many many many others...not that that's the right way to do anything....
But this covid is very new and it's amazing what they've learned about it and even come up with a variety of vaccines so quickly...
Something doesn't have to be journal published to be good and worth serious attention...and what journals are you talking about, there are some really poor standard journals out there...Peer review is probably a more credible route to go but who's doing the reviewing though, I can assure you it's rarely someone who understands it as well as you would expect....
I'm afraid a certain margin of hit and miss is probably the best you're going to get right now given the seriousness of this pandemic...and us the people are going to have to accept that we're on the edge of being the guinea pigs..
I did refer to a range of status within the journal culture in my post, but it seems you didn't read that either, before you dismissed it. I raised the subject because of what was said in the video that you haven't watched.
I'm aware of the narcissistic politics that can go on in research projects, but that's irrelevant to malpractice with respect to scientific methodology, or dodgy reporting.
Maybe if you watched the video (just the first 10 minutes, or so) then you might have something relevant to say about my comment, including whether Dr.Bhikari (the author of the article the report was based on) was rather drunk and emotional in the clip. I would have found it funny if it weren't malpractice that some members of the public might base life and death decisions upon.
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Pilot172: Lots people fuss about the vaccine.
Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
Polio is a deadlier and far more terrible disease that strikes at little children in the same way covid strikes those who would have died soon anyway. Plus the polio vaccine is considerably better than the covid vaccine, not to say that it's flawless.Always wondered what it would be like today if there was never a polio vaccine or a malaria deterrent? And why is there more people in the hospital and dying that never took the vaccine.Please tell me if I'm misinformed and polio never happened and Malaria isn't real.
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"get out of jail free card" given to vaccine manufacturers.
Through the passage of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, Congress protected vaccine manufactures from ever being brought before a jury of their peers.
Thanks to this law, vaccine injury claims are lumped together and often dismissed as trial cases with no credentials...
Through the passage of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, Congress protected vaccine manufactures from ever being brought before a jury of their peers.
Thanks to this law, vaccine injury claims are lumped together and often dismissed as trial cases with no credentials...
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Polio was not a borderline case that the vast majority could learn to live with very easily.
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Dedovix: "get out of jail free card" given to vaccine manufacturers.
Through the passage of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, Congress protected vaccine manufactures from ever being brought before a jury of their peers.
Thanks to this law, vaccine injury claims are lumped together and often dismissed as trial cases with no credentials...
Your latest “fembot orange squeezer” paper needs to be peer reviewed prior to publication in the specific journal stipulated prior to submission. However there is a major issue that will inevitably delay the outcome due to lack of area expertise required for your paper. Through the passage of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, Congress protected vaccine manufactures from ever being brought before a jury of their peers.
Thanks to this law, vaccine injury claims are lumped together and often dismissed as trial cases with no credentials...
Once the appropriate level of expertise is sourced (in terms of reviewers) the editor of the said journal will grade the quality of your paper and determine whether it should be published.
Morning.
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And thanks to omicron it's even less appropriate to talk about polio. The disease has just got milder(thanks to unvaccinated Africans)and your vaccines have just got weaker. Half the reason for taking a vaccine has just expired, and that's good news. The booster demonstrates the law of diminishing returns with crystal clarity.
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Oxycodone: Your latest “fembot orange squeezer” paper needs to be peer reviewed prior to publication in the specific journal stipulated prior to submission. However there is a major issue that will inevitably delay the outcome due to lack of area expertise required for your paper.
Once the appropriate level of expertise is sourced (in terms of reviewers) the editor of the said journal will grade the quality of your paper and determine whether it should be published.
Morning.
by whom???Once the appropriate level of expertise is sourced (in terms of reviewers) the editor of the said journal will grade the quality of your paper and determine whether it should be published.
Morning.
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Dedovix: by whom???
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Oxycodone: How long have you been awake for?
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Dedovix: Again, who should do the review and give the final unbiased judgment ???
In my post I mentioned it, those who have the required level of expertise in any given field, whether it be science, security and fragility etc, will review a paper that is submitted. The journal(s) have editors and they determine whether or not it should be published based on the content of the paper.------ This thread is Archived ------
They review the process, not the outcome... By people qualified to do so, that stand to gain nothing financially either way.
They won't give opinions whether people should or shouldn't, just whether the research was carried out competently and the observations are sound.
But, I think you'd still not take much notice for a few reasons, the main being you are working backwards from a conclusion. Easy to do these days, with the internet. But, it does make you look like a dill.
They won't give opinions whether people should or shouldn't, just whether the research was carried out competently and the observations are sound.
But, I think you'd still not take much notice for a few reasons, the main being you are working backwards from a conclusion. Easy to do these days, with the internet. But, it does make you look like a dill.
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pat8lanips: They review the process, not the outcome... By people qualified to do so, that stand to gain nothing financially either way.
They won't give opinions whether people should or shouldn't, just whether the research was carried out competently and the observations are sound.
But, I think you'd still not take much notice for a few reasons, the main being you are working backwards from a conclusion. Easy to do these days, with the internet. But, it does make you look like a dill.
There is one outcome of a peer reviewed paper which is significant, it can determine if further funding is required, whether that be from government or philanthropists, or other donors.They won't give opinions whether people should or shouldn't, just whether the research was carried out competently and the observations are sound.
But, I think you'd still not take much notice for a few reasons, the main being you are working backwards from a conclusion. Easy to do these days, with the internet. But, it does make you look like a dill.
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The days of pretending to know someone who's died will soon be behind us. Normal human beings in Africa have nudged this coronavirus away from the ones like SARS and towards the ones that cause the common cold. It was always leaning in our favour but it's better now that normal human beings have familiarised the virus even for the rich old weirdoes.
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snowlynx: If you believe this nonsense you are completely deluded.
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Actual arguments don't work with you, you delete and post more rubbish.
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Omicron is the point where Africa with all it's normalcy and youth steps forth to the rescue of a craggy age. When the old people are exhausted and the freaklords can do nothing more to shelter, it is then that we are glad that there are at least some earthlings living on earth.
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Dedovix: Do you have any actual arguments or is your opinion based purely on your blindness ???
You know nothing about science. You know nothing of what is involved when a bright young person learns science for years at second and third level schools, goes to university to learn more and then spends decades in a career where they acquire expertise that you or I could only dream of. These are the people who are worth listening to but you prefer to listen to some loon on the internet who looks around the net until they find something that confirms their ignorant prejudices and spreads it.You and I both know nothing about medical science but the difference is that I know that I know nothing. We live in a world where everyone is entitled to their opinion, that's the only way a civilised society can work but that doesn't mean every opinion has value, some are worthless and even dangerous.
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And once this is over, which it soon will be, we really need to redesign our politics. To avoid a minor illness as though it was plague is a far-right behaviour, to shun somebody over such a small risk is absolutely illiberal.
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pat8lanips: Actual arguments don't work with you, you delete and post more rubbish.
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