How much should governments pay for child care? (82)
How much are other country's governments paying for child care through kindergarten?
At one time in the usa a single family income with mom staying home until at least 1st grade could raise a family. Then two wage earners could do it on their own. Now I hear two wage earners have a really tough time doing that here in the usa. I think the usa is behind on helping.
How is everyone in other countries taxed to pay to raise other peoples' kids? Nine thousand US dollars a year comes out my home's real estate taxes to go towards paying for k-12 education for residents in my community. Not all of that is tax deductible. How much mire should I pay to help raise other peoples children beyond education cost?
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At one time in the usa a single family income with mom staying home until at least 1st grade could raise a family. Then two wage earners could do it on their own. Now I hear two wage earners have a really tough time doing that here in the usa. I think the usa is behind on helping.
How is everyone in other countries taxed to pay to raise other peoples' kids? Nine thousand US dollars a year comes out my home's real estate taxes to go towards paying for k-12 education for residents in my community. Not all of that is tax deductible. How much mire should I pay to help raise other peoples children beyond education cost?
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What it gives with one hand it takes with the other. What the government should do is allow the housing market to crash by tightening the money supply. A young family pays the extortionate rents so that others can borrow from the fake value of their property.
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But quite a lot if you ask the nationalists who view not going extinct as a national priority.
No, it's the fake middle class with it's fake money and fake house prices that needs actioning. Not many people can follow it. I mean you've gotta be ten times better than your dad just to get the same house.
No, it's the fake middle class with it's fake money and fake house prices that needs actioning. Not many people can follow it. I mean you've gotta be ten times better than your dad just to get the same house.
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ChesneyChrist: But quite a lot if you ask the nationalists who view not going extinct as a national priority.
No, it's the fake middle class with it's fake money and fake house prices that needs actioning. Not many people can follow it. I mean you've gotta be ten times better than your dad just to get the same house.
Unsurprisingly the majority give up on thrift and saving because it's too much to save and you don't even get any interest. When you add to the stress of work, the ordinary job twice as demanding as 20 or 30 years ago what people will do is piss away their wages. The reward for being wise with money seem so far away but right now you need distraction from how bad it is to work.No, it's the fake middle class with it's fake money and fake house prices that needs actioning. Not many people can follow it. I mean you've gotta be ten times better than your dad just to get the same house.
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And even without those distractions I doubt the outcome would be a nation of thrift and wise investment. More than likely those who rule over us would be set on fire.
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It may be the one thing we allow and even increase as everything else gets defunded. The fake house prices, the fake money, the fake news, the fake police, the fake courts and the fake education. In a sense small children are supposed to be parasitic looters, all of the state stops being a creche apart from the creche.
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ChesneyChrist: It may be the one thing we allow and even increase as everything else gets defunded. The fake house prices, the fake money, the fake news, the fake police, the fake courts and the fake education. In a sense small children are supposed to be parasitic looters, all of the state stops being a creche apart from the creche.
Children should be subsidised 100% They are the owners of the future, and if governments can furlough people and subsidise business they can invest in the countries future, (children).With inflation creeping up now your savings won't be a plugged nickel in the future.
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I did some research and here is what I've discovered :
"World War II remains the only time in U.S. history that the country came close to instituting universal childcare"
Government of US stopped supporting childcare in 1946.
Back there were more families with kids (more than 2 or 3) So how they manage to raise children without Government support?
And here in Canada, no matter how much Government supports children the less babies I see. The main amount of children are quite noticeable in black and Asian families. The second biggest country in a World with a population 38,246,108 as of July 1, 2021 Go figure
Then comes a question where all those government money go?
Good question Galrads
"World War II remains the only time in U.S. history that the country came close to instituting universal childcare"
Government of US stopped supporting childcare in 1946.
Back there were more families with kids (more than 2 or 3) So how they manage to raise children without Government support?
And here in Canada, no matter how much Government supports children the less babies I see. The main amount of children are quite noticeable in black and Asian families. The second biggest country in a World with a population 38,246,108 as of July 1, 2021 Go figure
Then comes a question where all those government money go?
Good question Galrads
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tomcatty: Children should be subsidised 100% They are the owners of the future, and if governments can furlough people and subsidise business they can invest in the countries future, (children).
With inflation creeping up now your savings won't be a plugged nickel in the future.
Very very well said Tom With inflation creeping up now your savings won't be a plugged nickel in the future.
|I've always said children are the future and if we want them to be kind to us as we age then we (everyone) should be kind to them....Instill a sense of belonging and being important in them and show/teach them that looking after others benefits them far more in the long run than just looking after themselves....
There was a time (pagan times) when every child was a welcomed and important new addition to the community. Even if that child was born out of wedlock (for want of a better phrase) it was welcomed by everyone and looked after by everyone. Because the people knew that one day this child was going to contribute to the community and look after others as it had been....
Tis so so so sad that that's no longer the case in today's world....And everyone one of us is to blame, not just the governments or whomever people choose to blame. We're all to blame for allowing it to happen....
The amount of child neglect these days is truly shocking....And I'm not talking about children raised by emotionally derelict criminals and drug abusers . i'm talking about everyone who neglects their children and puts status and belongings before their children..I know many many many middle class parents who're considered pillars of society, admired for their status etc etc etc..but are absolutely dreadful dreadful parents. I've seen those chiildren grow from really lovely children to pretty messed up adults who have very poor relationships with their siblings and famlies..and barely talk to each other in any sort of meaningful way....And those very same people have the brass neck to look down their noses on (e.g.) the poor, minority groups or single mothers, who're actually doing a great job of raising their children, and think they're better than them.....
Sorry..child welfare is a touchy subject with me
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blathin said:" Even if that child was born out of wedlock (for want of a better phrase) it was welcomed by everyone and looked after by everyone. Because the people knew that one day this child was going to contribute to the community and look after others as it had been.."
That's how it has to be.
And I do agree with " Tis so so so sad that that's no longer the case in today's world....And everyone one of us is to blame, not just the governments or whomever people choose to blame. We're all to blame for allowing it to happen"
people more and more get isolated from each other. ( I am not talking about Covid) Which definitely affecting new generation
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fantaziya: blathin said:" Even if that child was born out of wedlock (for want of a better phrase) it was welcomed by everyone and looked after by everyone. Because the people knew that one day this child was going to contribute to the community and look after others as it had been.."
That's how it has to be.
And I do agree with " Tis so so so sad that that's no longer the case in today's world....And everyone one of us is to blame, not just the governments or whomever people choose to blame. We're all to blame for allowing it to happen"
people more and more get isolated from each other. ( I am not talking about Covid) Which definitely affecting new generation
Thanks Fantaziya That's how it has to be.
And I do agree with " Tis so so so sad that that's no longer the case in today's world....And everyone one of us is to blame, not just the governments or whomever people choose to blame. We're all to blame for allowing it to happen"
people more and more get isolated from each other. ( I am not talking about Covid) Which definitely affecting new generation
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blathin: Thanks Fantaziya
I agree, you have a good heart blathin
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I wonder why those posting in this thread do not stick to the thread topic and questions? Pirates you be!
galrads: How much are other country's governments paying for child care through kindergarten?
At one time in the usa a single family income with mom staying home until at least 1st grade could raise a family. Then two wage earners could do it on their own. Now I hear two wage earners have a really tough time doing that here in the usa. I think the usa is behind on helping.
How is everyone in other countries taxed to pay to raise other peoples' kids? Nine thousand US dollars a year comes out my home's real estate taxes to go towards paying for k-12 education for residents in my community. Not all of that is tax deductible. How much mire should I pay to help raise other peoples children beyond education cost?
Better
At one time in the usa a single family income with mom staying home until at least 1st grade could raise a family. Then two wage earners could do it on their own. Now I hear two wage earners have a really tough time doing that here in the usa. I think the usa is behind on helping.
How is everyone in other countries taxed to pay to raise other peoples' kids? Nine thousand US dollars a year comes out my home's real estate taxes to go towards paying for k-12 education for residents in my community. Not all of that is tax deductible. How much mire should I pay to help raise other peoples children beyond education cost?
Better
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online today!galrads: I wonder why those posting in this thread do not stick to the thread topic and questions? Pirates you be!
Holy Cow Galrads!!!I couldn’t afford my home, if my share of education costs were that high.
Probably another reason so many people are moving to Florida.
My children all went to college with the help of Bright Futures...
It is funded by the lottery...
Just need 3.5 GPA..and certain SAT score to qualify..along, with volunteering throughout high school...
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galrads: I wonder why those posting in this thread do not stick to the thread topic and questions? Pirates you be!
Sorry 
I am really dumb when it comes to taxes. I just pay whatever Government sends me.
So it would be interesting to learn something from your thread
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blathin: Very very well said Tom
|I've always said children are the future and if we want them to be kind to us as we age then we (everyone) should be kind to them....Instill a sense of belonging and being important in them and show/teach them that looking after others benefits them far more in the long run than just looking after themselves....
There was a time (pagan times) when every child was a welcomed and important new addition to the community. Even if that child was born out of wedlock (for want of a better phrase) it was welcomed by everyone and looked after by everyone. Because the people knew that one day this child was going to contribute to the community and look after others as it had been....
Tis so so so sad that that's no longer the case in today's world....And everyone one of us is to blame, not just the governments or whomever people choose to blame. We're all to blame for allowing it to happen....
The amount of child neglect these days is truly shocking....And I'm not talking about children raised by emotionally derelict criminals and drug abusers . i'm talking about everyone who neglects their children and puts status and belongings before their children..I know many many many middle class parents who're considered pillars of society, admired for their status etc etc etc..but are absolutely dreadful dreadful parents. I've seen those chiildren grow from really lovely children to pretty messed up adults who have very poor relationships with their siblings and famlies..and barely talk to each other in any sort of meaningful way....And those very same people have the brass neck to look down their noses on (e.g.) the poor, minority groups or single mothers, who're actually doing a great job of raising their children, and think they're better than them.....
Sorry..child welfare is a touchy subject with me
|I've always said children are the future and if we want them to be kind to us as we age then we (everyone) should be kind to them....Instill a sense of belonging and being important in them and show/teach them that looking after others benefits them far more in the long run than just looking after themselves....
There was a time (pagan times) when every child was a welcomed and important new addition to the community. Even if that child was born out of wedlock (for want of a better phrase) it was welcomed by everyone and looked after by everyone. Because the people knew that one day this child was going to contribute to the community and look after others as it had been....
Tis so so so sad that that's no longer the case in today's world....And everyone one of us is to blame, not just the governments or whomever people choose to blame. We're all to blame for allowing it to happen....
The amount of child neglect these days is truly shocking....And I'm not talking about children raised by emotionally derelict criminals and drug abusers . i'm talking about everyone who neglects their children and puts status and belongings before their children..I know many many many middle class parents who're considered pillars of society, admired for their status etc etc etc..but are absolutely dreadful dreadful parents. I've seen those chiildren grow from really lovely children to pretty messed up adults who have very poor relationships with their siblings and famlies..and barely talk to each other in any sort of meaningful way....And those very same people have the brass neck to look down their noses on (e.g.) the poor, minority groups or single mothers, who're actually doing a great job of raising their children, and think they're better than them.....
Sorry..child welfare is a touchy subject with me
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galrads: I wonder why those posting in this thread do not stick to the thread topic and questions? Pirates you be!
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snowlynx: Arrrrrrgh jim lad..
Shiver me timbers
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At one time in the usa a single family income with mom staying home until at least 1st grade could raise a family. Then two wage earners could do it on their own. Now I hear two wage earners have a really tough time doing that here in the usa. I think the usa is behind on helping.
How much is everyone in other countries taxed to pay to raise other peoples' kids? Nine thousand US dollars a year comes out my home's real estate taxes to e other country's governments paying for child care through kindergarten?
At one time in the usa a single family income with mom staying home until at least 1st grade could raise a family. Then two wage earners could do it on their own. Now I hear two wage earners have a really tough time doing that here in the usa. I think the usa is behind on helping.
How is everyone in other countries taxed to pay to raise other peoples' kids? Nine thousand US dollars a year comes out my home's real estate taxes to go towards paying for k-12 education for residents in my community. Not all of that is tax deductible. How much mire should I pay to help raise other peoples children beyond education cost?