The worst crisis since 2008 ( Archived) (39)

Jan 8, 2022 6:42 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Dedovix: Yes, that is the plan a world crises -engineered project -the great reset -Covid is just one part of it ,planned shortages of food, energetics such as fossil fuels ,electricity and raw materials is the next .Introduction of digital currency as the only means of payment ,...
There is clearly an element of systemic competition that has emerged during the current crisis, and this competition has an important strategic dimension. Several authoritarian actors have instrumentalised the pandemic partly to discredit democratic governance.

China, for example, has incorporated the fight against COVID-19 into a broader national narrative of its “peaceful rise” and systemic superiority. It has sought diplomatic and public relations leverage from its contributions to the global fight against COVID-19.
Countries that managed to contain the disease have also kept their economies more or less functioning, and this has invariably conferred a degree of strategic advantage.

Meanwhile, the capacity to vaccinate populations quickly and to help other countries vaccinate has become a kind of diplomatic currency. Those leaders who have discounted the virus altogether have invariably learned that the disease does not follow political diktats.
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Jan 8, 2022 6:44 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
See it positive, Unilever has moved to the UK already, and Shell will do the same with their headoffice. Both big companies with lots of money, guess they will pay fair taxes.
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Jan 8, 2022 7:05 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
tomcatty: There is clearly an element of systemic competition that has emerged during the current crisis, and this competition has an important strategic dimension. Several authoritarian actors have instrumentalised the pandemic partly to discredit democratic governance.

China, for example, has incorporated the fight against COVID-19 into a broader national narrative of its “peaceful rise” and systemic superiority. It has sought diplomatic and public relations leverage from its contributions to the global fight against COVID-19.
Countries that managed to contain the disease have also kept their economies more or less functioning, and this has invariably conferred a degree of strategic advantage.

Meanwhile, the capacity to vaccinate populations quickly and to help other countries vaccinate has become a kind of diplomatic currency. Those leaders who have discounted the virus altogether have invariably learned that the disease does not follow political diktats.
I have the funny feeling in my bones that blathin disagrees with my post laugh

Tom ,what we`re allowed to see is the competition of middlemen on who`s gonna please the master more
China is just one of many experimental polygon -

vaccines diplomatic currency??? this isnt a natural virus or a virus at all, ,its a lab made biochemical weapon -and so far, it works very well as an experiment in obedience and suppression of natural immunity
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Jan 8, 2022 2:17 PM CST The worst crisis since 2008
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Dedovix: I have the funny feeling in my bones that blathin disagrees with my post

Tom ,what we`re allowed to see is the competition of middlemen on who`s gonna please the master more
China is just one of many experimental polygon -

vaccines diplomatic currency??? this isnt a natural virus or a virus at all, ,its a lab made biochemical weapon -and so far, it works very well as an experiment in obedience and suppressions of natural immunity
laugh I can't remember a word you said Dedovix....sure it was probably all soft talk anyway...so you're probably right.laugh

Well prepare yourself for a whole battery of "experiments" then as, the rainforests are cut down and glaciers melt, viruses that have been hidden and dormant for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years become active (given the right conditions food source, temperatute, humidity etc)....Disease pandemics are going to become a lot more regular occurence...

Then there's the imbalance we're seeing in the weather all around the world as well...that's going to impact the spread of disease...

Not just that, our population numbers are getting out of hand and nature will find a way to cull the numbers...and part of the reason why you're seeing the genders becoming confused.....dont think that's manmade.that's mother nature taking steps to try and curb our overgrowth....

and if you don't believe me then ask yourself even with all the men lost at wars over the decades and generations.. "how is gender parity has always been maintained at 50/50? Do you think some human being or group of them have some sort of control over that as well.....

Fertility is in serious decline as well....How? Why?

A lot of what you're seeing is mother nature at work...and nothing to do with some little man hiding behind the curtain...
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Jan 8, 2022 2:28 PM CST The worst crisis since 2008
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
blathin: I can't remember a word you said Dedovix....sure it was probably all soft talk anyway...so you're probably right.

Well prepare yourself for a whole battery of "experiments" then as, the rainforests are cut down and glaciers melt, viruses that have been hidden and dormant for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years become active (given the right conditions food source, temperatute, humidity etc)....Disease pandemics are going to become a lot more regular occurence...

Then there's the imbalance we're seeing in the weather all around the world as well...that's going to impact the spread of disease...

Not just that, our population numbers are getting out of hand and nature will find a way to cull the numbers...and part of the reason why you're seeing the genders becoming confused.....dont think that's manmade.that's mother nature taking steps to try and curb our overgrowth....

and if you don't believe me then ask yourself even with all the men lost at wars over the decades and generations.. "how is gender parity has always been maintained at 50/50? Do you think some human being or group of them have some sort of control over that as well.....

Fertility is in serious decline as well....How? Why?

A lot of what you're seeing is mother nature at work...and nothing to do with some little man hiding behind the curtain...
Can't be both , can be neither
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Jan 8, 2022 2:49 PM CST The worst crisis since 2008
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
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Dang ole dang ole cow farts...
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Jan 8, 2022 3:37 PM CST The worst crisis since 2008
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
epirb: Can't be both , can be neither
it can be both, because with a population of 7 billion we have the numbers to support both....Whilst fertility in the west is declining, populations are growing elsewhere, eg. India, Africa, china (now it's 2 children/couple)

And yes, I know, things like contraception, education and careers etc = women having fewer children. but notwthstanding that, fertiliity is in decline...and if memory serves it's male fertility that's declining at a faster rate than female fertility. I'm sure there's loads of information online if you want to look it up.
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Jan 8, 2022 10:30 PM CST The worst crisis since 2008
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
blathin: I can't remember a word you said Dedovix....sure it was probably all soft talk anyway...so you're probably right.

Well prepare yourself for a whole battery of "experiments" then as, the rainforests are cut down and glaciers melt, viruses that have been hidden and dormant for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years become active (given the right conditions food source, temperatute, humidity etc)....Disease pandemics are going to become a lot more regular occurence...

Then there's the imbalance we're seeing in the weather all around the world as well...that's going to impact the spread of disease...

Not just that, our population numbers are getting out of hand and nature will find a way to cull the numbers...and part of the reason why you're seeing the genders becoming confused.....dont think that's manmade.that's mother nature taking steps to try and curb our overgrowth....

and if you don't believe me then ask yourself even with all the men lost at wars over the decades and generations.. "how is gender parity has always been maintained at 50/50? Do you think some human being or group of them have some sort of control over that as well.....

Fertility is in serious decline as well....How? Why?

A lot of what you're seeing is mother nature at work...and nothing to do with some little man hiding behind the curtain...
okay uh oh ( raising slightly my left eyebrow and walking out in reverse)
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Jan 9, 2022 1:27 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
India would be like Brighton if LGBT was here to check against population. At any rate sustainable growth in the west would involve turning away from liberals because they're now infanticidal maniacs, the sterility has been done to death, and letting India take over with that death force.
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Jan 9, 2022 3:37 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
I mean anybody who has sounded like Trump since before 2008 can remember how difficult that used to be. And what's changed? The economy. You cannot be a rich liberal without being rich. Now the reason FDR won is because he respected what is now known as the basket of deplorables.
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Jan 9, 2022 3:50 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: I mean anybody who has sounded like Trump since before 2008 can remember how difficult that used to be. And what's changed? The economy. You cannot be a rich liberal without being rich. Now the reason FDR won is because he respected what is now known as the basket of deplorables.
And we want to watch France closely. A general public where 82% see life getting worse, a president who tries to piss you off, and Zemmour with his girlfriend 35 years younger than him that frankly is a bit gross, a bit predatory.
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Jan 9, 2022 4:25 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Even America is 50/50. A nation based on commercial cheeriness, lying constantly to appear happier and more successful, is 50% pessimistic.
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Jan 9, 2022 4:30 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Dedovix: okay ( raising slightly my left eyebrow and walking out in reverse)
laugh taste of your own medicine Dedovix laugh
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Jan 9, 2022 4:46 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Although for the sake of balance I must point out that the french are easily unhappy. Put the price of cheese up and they'll riot. Opposite of the Americans.

The truth is more in the middle. 2 out of 3 would be better off through revolution. Roughly two thirds have good reason to stop the future that's being mapped out.
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Jan 9, 2022 5:09 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And that's actually the difference between Macron and Thatcher. The early bird catches the worm. In the 1980s two thirds gained from eating the other third, and China wasn't seen as a serious threat, but now China is a threat and you're talking about a minority eating the majority. Neoliberals don't get the terms that they did when China was much more backward.
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Jan 9, 2022 5:30 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Thatcher split the working class and won the higher proles over to her cause.

But the neoliberals today split the middle class relegating the lower middle class into proles. Macron is providing for what is a very small but wealthier middle class. But can a democracy work when the middle class is that small? When the majority have no stake? Twice as many got rich out of Thatcher.
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Jan 9, 2022 5:45 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And I can only assume this is where Meta would come in. A new world that has no such thing as democracy, human rights or even an independent thought simply supplants the rest of us. Another layer of internet in a society that's yet to come terms with the first layer. Where none of the laws work already and justice is a great big tyrannical charade.
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Jan 9, 2022 6:03 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And I think this would be a good slogan for today's conservative: "We must not suffer metaverse".
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Jan 9, 2022 6:46 AM CST The worst crisis since 2008
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
blathin: taste of your own medicine Dedovix
I didnt wanna say it loud but you are a conspiracy theorist grin
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