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Jan 12, 2022 11:31 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
tomcattyonline today!
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They are rocketing up now and it is reported they might be rising a further 50%,
It's getting out of control. What's the real reason behind it.
Many people will be going into fuel poverty, Is it just the greedy fuel companies or is there some other reason?
Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:43 PM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
tomcatty: They are rocketing up now and it is reported they might be rising a further 50%,
It's getting out of control. What's the real reason behind it.
Many people will be going into fuel poverty, Is it just the greedy fuel companies or is there some other reason?
If it’s materials from the earth, well, there’s not an infinite supply…we’re running out. If it’s energy from the sun/ wind/rushing water, those are extremely expensive to harness, many people must be paid to work, trillions of dollars spent to build solar panels, mills, dams…there is no one or easy answer. My electric bill in 2007 was about $25.00 monthly. Now, for a smaller square footage, it’s roughly $65.00 monthly. Over 100% higher in just 15 years. Gasoline ( for car) was $1.85 in 2007. It is now $4.05. Same thing. Duplex in 2007 was 500.00. It is now $800.00.
Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:46 PM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
Let's go Brandon... cheering
Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:46 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK9,863 Posts
Labour shortages, bad weather, going green, business monopoly, money printing, lockdown, social distancing and ventilation. Any and all of these things.
Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:02 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK9,863 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Labour shortages, bad weather, going green, business monopoly, money printing, lockdown, social distancing and ventilation. Any and all of these things.
But we're okay with the masks. The masks can be considered blameless in this fight
Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:42 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,907 Posts
tomcatty: They are rocketing up now and it is reported they might be rising a further 50%,
It's getting out of control. What's the real reason behind it.
Many people will be going into fuel poverty, Is it just the greedy fuel companies or is there some other reason?
The reason?

Men! They've been running the world since the year dot and they're really really bad at it...
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:20 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
Tulefell
TulefellTulefellGothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden85 Threads 3 Polls 3,745 Posts
Rising costs of prices? And what did prices cost before?
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:34 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
rohaan: If it’s materials from the earth, well, there’s not an infinite supply…we’re running out. If it’s energy from the sun/ wind/rushing water, those are extremely expensive to harness, many people must be paid to work, trillions of dollars spent to build solar panels, mills, dams…there is no one or easy answer. My electric bill in 2007 was about $25.00 monthly. Now, for a smaller square footage, it’s roughly $65.00 monthly. Over 100% higher in just 15 years. Gasoline ( for car) was $1.85 in 2007. It is now $4.05. Same thing. Duplex in 2007 was 500.00. It is now $800.00.
Wow, maybe Oregon is the place to be. I'm in Florida, where weather is basically constant. A normal electric bill, $300 for a 3/2 house (what daughter pays). Mine is low about $70-80 a mo but I am very conservative. Rent for a 1bd apt, $1800 mo (what sister pays), duplexes are more, does not include HOA fees usually. It's cheaper to buy now. Utilities, water, garbage pickup went from $35 mo to $60 mo last year. Gas in my area about $3.50 for mid grade, what I use. probably more expensive in bigger cities like Orlando.

I don't see many solar panels, My Ex has a few but they create constant problems with his roof.

I've read so much about alternative fuels, corn oil, even some kinds of algea looked promising. Fossil fuel will probably continue until every last drop is gone. Oil barons,corporations will see to that.
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:36 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK9,863 Posts
blathin: The reason?

Men! They've been running the world since the year dot and they're really really bad at it...
It's because the men think and act like a women. He's become a her indoors, too, and now nobody brings home the bacon outside of the machines. You could say that the technology isn't there yet to sustain the domesticated sissy, and to put bringing home the bacon on autopilot.
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:43 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,907 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It's because the men think and act like a women. He's become a her indoors, too, and now nobody brings home the bacon outside of the machines. You could say that the technology isn't there yet to sustain the domesticated sissy, and to put bringing home the bacon on autopilot.
if men thought and acted like women the world would be a better place...cleaner, calmer, fairer, kinder and far fewer wars.
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:51 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK9,863 Posts
And no matter how much of a good shopper/woman the modern person is, thanks to the internet, there is still nothing to buy.

Technology allows a lot of human effort to be pointless horseshit but we've overextended that in the pandemic. Perhaps by the year 2050 the supply could take the strain of this much credit.
Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:12 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK9,863 Posts
Technology makes things cheap and easy but there isn't the technology to live the way we have been doing therefore living becomes difficult and expensive. It's a great leap forward into the past where, like a peasant, we spend a great deal more on staying alive under technofeudal overlords who have supplanted liberal capitalism and democracy.
Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:54 PM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
Tsubie52: Wow, maybe Oregon is the place to be. I'm in Florida, where weather is basically constant. A normal electric bill, $300 for a 3/2 house (what daughter pays). Mine is low about $70-80 a mo but I am very conservative. Rent for a 1bd apt, $1800 mo (what sister pays), duplexes are more, does not include HOA fees usually. It's cheaper to buy now. Utilities, water, garbage pickup went from $35 mo to $60 mo last year. Gas in my area about $3.50 for mid grade, what I use. probably more expensive in bigger cities like Orlando.

I don't see many solar panels, My Ex has a few but they create constant problems with his roof.

I've read so much about alternative fuels, corn oil, even some kinds of algea looked promising. Fossil fuel will probably continue until every last drop is gone. Oil barons,corporations will see to that.
I live in rural Oregon. Portland is now the most expensive city on the west coast- comparatively. A small studio apartment, no parking, is $1600.00-$1900.00. A 1- bedroom soars to $2100.00 to $3000.00+. A 2 bedroom apartment is anywhere from $2300.00 to over $7000.00. A glass of wine in a downtown pub is $11.00. A Bloody Mary is at least $20.00. A lunch at a nice restaurant is $40.00+. A nice shirt is at least $100.00. Shoes $200.00-400.00. A 4 hour parking slip is $18.00. A concert ticket $175.00-$500.00. Day passes for zoos, museums, specialty parks are $20.00 up….automobile insurance premiums are double what they are here. And, for the privilege of living in the cosmopolitan area? Another tax, besides state and federal, is mandated. And it’s NOT low. Oh, and they charge for “ run-off” on homes. ( there’s a fee for the water that spills into your rain gutters— as if that’s avoidable!) But get this: it is illegal to collect rainwater in barrels, as was done in former times. Why? They claim it’s “ not your water”. They have a problem with people trying to be frugal. Used to love that town SO much. So very disappointed in the direction it went…
Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:33 AM CST The rising costs of energy prices,
rohaan: I live in rural Oregon. Portland is now the most expensive city on the west coast- comparatively. A small studio apartment, no parking, is $1600.00-$1900.00. A 1- bedroom soars to $2100.00 to $3000.00+. A 2 bedroom apartment is anywhere from $2300.00 to over $7000.00. A glass of wine in a downtown pub is $11.00. A Bloody Mary is at least $20.00. A lunch at a nice restaurant is $40.00+. A nice shirt is at least $100.00. Shoes $200.00-400.00. A 4 hour parking slip is $18.00. A concert ticket $175.00-$500.00. Day passes for zoos, museums, specialty parks are $20.00 up….automobile insurance premiums are double what they are here. And, for the privilege of living in the cosmopolitan area? Another tax, besides state and federal, is mandated. And it’s NOT low. Oh, and they charge for “ run-off” on homes. ( there’s a fee for the water that spills into your rain gutters— as if that’s avoidable!) But get this: it is illegal to collect rainwater in barrels, as was done in former times. Why? They claim it’s “ not your water”. They have a problem with people trying to be frugal. Used to love that town SO much. So very disappointed in the direction it went…
I guess costs are relative to where you live. Florida taxes aren't as high. tourist prevents that. Theme park and zoo tickets here are about the same, doesn't cover food and drink once you are in, horrendously expensive. I went to them back when they first opened, never again. Concert tickets, depends who is playing, we do have local concerts all over that are free. The "rain water" situation is pure corruption. Surprised people there don't petition against that, what is it an HOA thing? My Homeowners insurance went up to $1365 a year from $694 in 2019. I asked my rep why, never had a claim, was told "that all ins companies are increasing". I told her is it "monkey see, monkey do or just plain greed?" We are subject to hurricanes tho. She got me a rate of $800 but I would have to pay $400-$500 for another wind mitigation inspection, drives it right back up! All in all not really that bad
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