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Jan 24, 2022 10:10 AM CST Why
tomcatty: Switch the beer valve on immediately
ROGER! moping rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 24, 2022 10:12 AM CST Why
Grandsiozzie: ROGER!
Hahaha, one day.. one day... I might get up in a more upright position when writing...
And when that happens (never) I'll get rid of 23.4% of my keystroke errors..maybe.. lol

cheers
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Jan 24, 2022 10:13 AM CST Why
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And then there's technology which drives down the price of most things. Before the pandemic we were printing money in tandem with the pace of change to stave off deflation. The cost of most things would have plunged between 2008 and 2020 if there was a policy of tight money. But such a policy would be no good for house and share prices. What society has done is try to raise prices for a long time, and lend the ordinary person the difference so that those who own property and shares win out over everyone.

Fast forward to 2020 and the above mentality goes into overdrive. The printing of money far, far outstripping any productivity gains we get from technology. The response now will be to increase the rate of technological change. It'll be the only way to maintain house prices.
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Jan 24, 2022 10:36 AM CST Why
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: And then there's technology which drives down the price of most things. Before the pandemic we were printing money in tandem with the pace of change to stave off deflation. The cost of most things would have plunged between 2008 and 2020 if there was a policy of tight money. But such a policy would be no good for house and share prices. What society has done is try to raise prices for a long time, and lend the ordinary person the difference so that those who own property and shares win out over everyone.

Fast forward to 2020 and the above mentality goes into overdrive. The printing of money far, far outstripping any productivity gains we get from technology. The response now will be to increase the rate of technological change. It'll be the only way to maintain house prices.
Unfortunately it will lead to a situation where most people are not worth employing. You'll have the Uber drivers and a small group of very elite workers, not much in the middle. The middle skilled and middle incomed disappear.

Where will be then is a humanity where the majority of income is a form of rent. Landlords and shareholders, the only way to make money is by owning assets. Technology creates the wealth. And perhaps we all need to be made shareholders in the stock market. Everybody must become a capitalist as labour, for the most part, goes extinct.
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Jan 24, 2022 10:50 AM CST Why
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Unfortunately it will lead to a situation where most people are not worth employing. You'll have the Uber drivers and a small group of very elite workers, not much in the middle. The middle skilled and middle incomed disappear.

Where will be then is a humanity where the majority of income is a form of rent. Landlords and shareholders, the only way to make money is by owning assets. Technology creates the wealth. And perhaps we all need to be made shareholders in the stock market. Everybody must become a capitalist as labour, for the most part, goes extinct.
And if you're wondering what that small group of very elite workers is going to look like, look no further than Neuralink. Musk is right about becoming a cyborg if you want an active part in the labour of this century's economy.
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Jan 24, 2022 11:08 AM CST Why
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Having said that everybody becoming a shareholder would most probably cut into the cyborg market. If everybody has the purchasing power to employ a normal human being there might be a job even for you. Or go the other way and never charge a penny for your services in the full knowledge that you're a living dividend. Working for free certainly helps beat inflation.
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Jan 24, 2022 1:18 PM CST Why
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Grandsiozzie: The Langeled pipeline (originally known as Britpipe) is an underwater gas pipeline transporting Norwegian natural gas to the United Kingdom. Before the completion of the Nord Stream pipeline, it was the longest subsea pipeline in the world.

We're pumping over what we can hunny!
There is at all time two men pumping, but they work in shifts 24/7.



thumbs up

But Europe gets the major part of their supply from Russia and then Iraq ...
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Jan 25, 2022 10:06 PM CST Why
The powers-that-be know there’s a better way. The irony is that when you take your plan, which, let’s say is very durable (wind and solar energy, greenhouses for year-round benefits, fresh, natural water from the earth, composting, etc…) and want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem— they won’t let you. Banks won’t write a mortgage on off-grid houses, getting certificates and licenses is difficult. And all for plans that work, that solve the issue…The only people really able to do it are super rich hobbyists, who have so much money they don’t really care. I was reading an article about a small family who were talking about their well, their chickens, how they were reeling in the joy of this organic life. When not on Sunnybrook Farm, these darlings were— guess where?? In their hi- rise co- op in the city, of course.
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Jan 26, 2022 2:03 PM CST Why
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
tomcatty: Why have our fuel bills rocketed through the ceiling, I know people who have to choose between eating and heating.

Why has inflation shot up to 5% and they still don't pay us interest on our savings??????

Why???
Don't cry, it can always be worse. The Netherlands is the country where the fuelprices are the nr 2 most expensive in the world. People living close to the Belgium or German border are going over the border to get their fuel, for the people who live to far from the border, that's no option.
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Jan 27, 2022 3:57 AM CST Why
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Selenite: There's supposed to still be crude oil resources for another 50 years or so...
So the question is 'who' is causing the shortage already?
It’s more to do with the supply rather than the lack of resources.
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Jan 27, 2022 4:22 AM CST Why
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Youcannow: It’s more to do with the supply rather than the lack of resources.
It's both. These days they have to dig deep and blast the oil out of the ground. Down to the darkest depths of the ocean.
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Jan 27, 2022 4:30 AM CST Why
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It's both. These days they have to dig deep and blast the oil out of the ground. Down to the darkest depths of the ocean.
Not necessarily. Modern technology & engineering methods make it easier to dig further into the ocean more efficiently.
It’s Because of the sudden surge in demand , suppliers can’t keep up with that demand, thus causing prices to increase.
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Jan 27, 2022 4:49 AM CST Why
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Just in time has a hand in this, also. Everything works very well until it goes very wrong. We had very low prices before the pandemic to fit the economy where most people control very little of the world's wealth. I like just in time, it used to be my job, but there's a reason everything has to work so well first time. Very productive but not a lot of margin for error. Having a margin for error would raise prices, but an error when you don't have a margin will cost us even more.
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Jan 27, 2022 9:28 PM CST Why
ChesneyChrist: Just in time has a hand in this, also. Everything works very well until it goes very wrong. We had very low prices before the pandemic to fit the economy where most people control very little of the world's wealth. I like just in time, it used to be my job, but there's a reason everything has to work so well first time. Very productive but not a lot of margin for error. Having a margin for error would raise prices, but an error when you don't have a margin will cost us even more.
Exactomundo—this ties in, so please “get it”. (I’m told from time to time that I’m not being germane to topic—laugh )

There is an extremely popular restaurant chain in America. It’s also rather expensive. But even low income people flock to it. The secret? They give you this endless stack of rich, warm, dark bread smothered in butter. All you want. Comes with the meal…So, the smaller portions of steak, seafood, whatever, aren’t as “noticeable”. You’re fat and happy on bread. (Bread, noodles, crackers, pastry—all very very cheap…) Get this, too— lobsters are the bugs of the ocean. Go to Maine, For example. Traps sitting on the docks chock full of them. Quite enough. But in a restaurant— highest choice on the menu. Fetticini Alfredo? Usually high price. It’s practically free! Just sayin’….
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Jan 29, 2022 5:28 AM CST Why
jac_the_gripper: I live in a council flat and it's only marginally cheaper than renting privately.

What I do get is greater security of tenure, that is, I have to do something illegal to get kicked out, rather than being subject to the whims of a private landlord.

I also have a landlord that sticks to their end of the legal agreement. I never once experienced that in over 30 years as a private tenent.

My council flat is actually owned by a Housing Association which is the current trend. There are no subsidies from the local council, or government.

It's just a large, non-greedy, ethically focussed company which prioritises the most vulnerable people in society - y'know, those who are old, sick, or can't earn enough however early they get up to keep paying private landlords and moving costs, or without losing their jobs because they have to move somewhere else.

Stereotyping doesn't really address the complexties of homelessness, nor the impact of unethical business practise. Ruthless capitalism and communism aren't the only options and thankfully we're beginning to cotton on to the idea of responsible/sustainable enterprise.
Could you be evicted for anti-social behaviour?
grin
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Jan 29, 2022 6:01 AM CST Why
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
snowlynx: Could you be evicted for anti-social behaviour?
You would have to look in your contract, but most Housing associations would try to resolve the situation, and if the behavior wasn't modified would take action,
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