Chris, all I wanted is fairness. Bruce Jenner is an example. I read the above post on the scientific secual atc, information of human beings are so complicated for me.
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It doesn't bother me if trans men compete against the men. I don't expect they'll get very far but they're perfectly welcome to try.
But women's sports are more like youth leagues or the handicap games. They don't work unless you keep out people who are not these things.
At the end of the day trans is a mind over matter thing but sports are physical. Hormones and surgery are not enough you would have to literally take the brain out of a man's body and put it in the body of a woman. Only then could a trans woman compete against women.
ChesneyChrist: It doesn't bother me if trans men compete against the men. I don't expect they'll get very far but they're perfectly welcome to try.
But women's sports are more like youth leagues or the handicap games. They don't work unless you keep out people who are not these things.
At the end of the day trans is a mind over matter thing but sports are physical. Hormones and surgery are not enough you would have to literally take the brain out of a man's body and put it in the body of a woman. Only then could a trans woman compete against women.
Full on Dr Frankenstein is the only way that somebody born male could compete against women in sport fair and square.
ChesneyChrist: It doesn't bother me if trans men compete against the men. I don't expect they'll get very far but they're perfectly welcome to try.
But women's sports are more like youth leagues or the handicap games. They don't work unless you keep out people who are not these things.
At the end of the day trans is a mind over matter thing but sports are physical. Hormones and surgery are not enough you would have to literally take the brain out of a man's body and put it in the body of a woman. Only then could a trans woman compete against women.
Exactly Obs.
What's not fair is just because you changed from a physical man to a woman doesn't mean you've become weak. Not fair at all.
I don't have a problem with it, if like competes against like. No problems, transgender weightlifters or whatever competing on a level playing field. Same goes for steroids or whatever, should be a class for open drug tests.
I think the intellectually disabled open drug test boxing would be quite a spectacle.
pat8lanips: I don't have a problem with it, if like competes against like. No problems, transgender weightlifters or whatever competing on a level playing field. Same goes for steroids or whatever, should be a class for open drug tests.
I think the intellectually disabled open drug test boxing would be quite a spectacle.
I think its just fair. I'm not keen on the boxing field.
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Meaning: girls against girls, boys versus boys and gays or lesbians against each other?
Just because Bruce Jenner became Caitlyn doesn't mean his prowess and strength changed, right?