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May 1, 2022 11:51 AM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
Name_Taken_Two: I have a large family, lots of mutual love there, I suppose I am wanting to share what I have, I'm not lacking in the love stakes I must say, well sometimes on here maybe..
Sharing what you have is the key here...
Many waste a lifetime wanting someone else to give them love and make them happy...wine
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May 1, 2022 11:53 AM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
Love is putting someone above yourself. Not putting them on a pedestal but instead in your thoughts and the gut feeling in your stomach that says you want to be with them to share their life. They may not do the same for you but when you love someone you want all their endeavors to be good for them. At the same time you hope that they will return that feeling.

Love isn't about you. It is about someone else that makes your heart smile.
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May 1, 2022 11:53 AM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland75 Threads 2,322 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: Sharing what you have is the key here...
Many waste a lifetime wanting someone else to give them love and make them happy...
Some don't like to share.. Desire and love get a bit confused too I think, I desire to be loved deeply by the woman of my dreams..wine
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May 1, 2022 11:53 AM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB, why are we so crippled with the power of ID?
Why are we born with it?
Why can't we just go on living sans power, greed, and seeking out the approval of others?

Now you got me into the very core of what we need to do to live on love alone. Love that comes from the deepest of our soul.
Talk to me BB.angel
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May 1, 2022 11:57 AM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
BB_snickers: On the mark again Bod. So for you what is the purpose of real love and connecting with other people.
I think it's more the value of rather than the purpose. The value is to live with the right and proper higher vibration, to cultivate (meditation) it, to recognise it, and be aware. When two people (energies) meet who are aligned with this vibration, magical things happen.

heart beating
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May 1, 2022 12:16 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickersonline today!
BB_snickersonline today!BB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
lindsyjones: I'm feeling the vibe BB. The ego is conceding. Now I know and feel what you meant. In an ideal world, love is the king, the good spirit, the energy that sustains everything. Sans ego, it's a perfect world. I am endowed with the power to hold unto. Yes, now here's my question. Why does ego factor in in all that we do? 8 billion people B, why?

Better question. What do we do to enlighten the world and eliminate ego?
wow Welp, that is one heck of a question lindsy. The answers are somewhat difficult to give in a short response. However I will do my best, according to what I have read and heard or learned.

To begin, being angry with one's ego is just another form of fear or staying in a bad place, so you love the ego, but understand it's wants and needs and how it controls you. That is the darker parts of you and they are loveable as is any other part of you. However, staying in touch with your spirit as much as possible gives love a chance. I think this involves constantly asking one's self if they are coming from ego or from love.

The second step would be to extend that or offer that to others as well. To understand that we all have dark sides and then to think of us all as innocent helps to realize one's own innocence. Part of this process is an understanding of forgiveness which includes forgiving the self.

The ego factors in for every one for reasons that I cannot explain on a forum. It would take a book to uncover that one. :-)
Great questions though. Perhaps someone has another explanation. dunno
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May 1, 2022 12:18 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
gonelikethewimd
gonelikethewimdgonelikethewimdOsprey, Florida USA3,318 Posts
secretagent09: Love is putting someone above yourself. Not putting them on a pedestal but instead in your thoughts and the gut feeling in your stomach that says you want to be with them to share their life. They may not do the same for you but when you love someone you want all their endeavors to be good for them. At the same time you hope that they will return that feeling.

Love isn't about you. It is about someone else that makes your heart smile.
Secret..it is not about one being above the other...It is all about giving and taking. You know, one has to give more than the other at times..and, vice versa.....

I just know, that I knew when he needed me to give more and he knew when I needed more.

It wasn’t until he had died..that I knew how many people have never really loved or been loved in a healthy relationship. I am so very thankful...he came into my life.
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May 1, 2022 12:21 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickersonline today!
BB_snickersonline today!BB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
secretagent09: Love is putting someone above yourself. Not putting them on a pedestal but instead in your thoughts and the gut feeling in your stomach that says you want to be with them to share their life. They may not do the same for you but when you love someone you want all their endeavors to be good for them. At the same time you hope that they will return that feeling.

Love isn't about you. It is about someone else that makes your heart smile.
Would you say that means being of service to others without expectation of return? Do see this as an ideal or a real possibility that you could accomplish?

And what about self love?

What about people pleasing?
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May 1, 2022 12:27 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
d4nI314
d4nI314d4nI314Planet Earth, Valencia Spain7 Threads 453 Posts
BB_snickers: Hi Dani,

What does unconditional mean to you. And what would be required to invoke unconditional love from you Dani? In general of course.

I think some may have pets for other reasons. For example, knowing that pets are in their own stage of growth/enlightenment they have them to assist in that process. I expect this is a small crowd but still they exist.
"Unconditional" means without conditions attached...no expectations...expecting nothing in return.

It comes from the heart, and not from the wounded self.


As for pets...yes, we have them for various reasons.
But it will still be for something we're lacking of.

E g I see many people here rescuing abandoned animals. Maybe there's a part in them that needs rescuing? dunno

Or....they may have some unfinished business with pets from previous lives?
They may have made some soul contracts?
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May 1, 2022 12:28 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
The topic of love is not something that can be put into words & certainly not up for debate .
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May 1, 2022 12:32 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickers: Welp, that is one heck of a question lindsy. The answers are somewhat difficult to give in a short response. However I will do my best, according to what I have read and heard or learned.

To begin, being angry with one's ego is just another form of fear or staying in a bad place, so you love the ego, but understand it's wants and needs and how it controls you. That is the darker parts of you and they are loveable as is any other part of you. However, staying in touch with your spirit as much as possible gives love a chance. I think this involves constantly asking one's self if they are coming from ego or from love.

The second step would be to extend that or offer that to others as well. To understand that we all have dark sides and then to think of us all as innocent helps to realize one's own innocence. Part of this process is an understanding of forgiveness which includes forgiving the self.

The ego factors in for every one for reasons that I cannot explain on a forum. It would take a book to uncover that one. :-)
Great questions though. Perhaps someone has another explanation.
BB, my respects. Bow. I can't find the emo.

Now loving onself is indeed the root of a true love. Permeate it into the gardens of the world and let it shine. I have been loved, in many ways, I am forever grateful and thankful. I think what we should truly focus on is a genuine and pure love that comes from us, for us and those around us.

Thank you for that true sense of what love is "not asking anything".

It's the glow, it's the spirit in us that makes love not needing anything. I think, the monks, do have this in themselves and live by it.

My respects BB.hug
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May 1, 2022 12:35 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
gonelikethewimd: Secret..it is not about one being above the other...It is all about giving and taking. You know, one has to give more than the other at times..and, vice versa.....

I just know, that I knew when he needed me to give more and he knew when I needed more.

It wasn’t until he had died..that I knew how many people have never really loved or been loved in a healthy relationship. I am so very thankful...he came into my life.
GW, I appreciate your reply however I do not agree that love is a giving and taking relationship. I will be 80 years old in 19 days and I do know what love is when I give it to someone. I recognize how it makes me feel. I also know how to recognize real love if someone wants to give it to me.

I loved someone who did not love me the way I loved him. Still, I was happy to be in his life and so I continued to love him. He didn't give me romantic love to "take" but he gave me time and friendship and that was enough for me.
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May 1, 2022 12:37 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickersonline today!
BB_snickersonline today!BB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
bodleing2: I think it's more the value of rather than the purpose. The value is to live with the right and proper higher vibration, to cultivate (meditation) it, to recognise it, and be aware. When two people (energies) meet who are aligned with this vibration, magical things happen.
There's a thing in ACIM that brings attention to 'Holy Relationships' and it's counterpart 'special relationships'. Special relationships are those that are common now where fear/ego runs almost everything about the relationship and the reasons for being together. This includes all relationships not just romantic ones. Family, friends, acquaintances, lovers, etc that are all pretty much run on ego, using fear.

The Holy Relationship is quite different and relies on something close to what you said but it also includes complete honesty, vulnerability and this thing called 'no private thoughts' and 'no people pleasing' which would be really interesting. cool The point is to unburden the self of all the ego imagined fears that run most of what we do and to then get to true authentic self in innocence which a lot of us have no idea about. confused

Apparently this is miracle things happening as opposed to magical things. cheers
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May 1, 2022 12:42 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
gonelikethewimd
gonelikethewimdgonelikethewimdOsprey, Florida USA3,318 Posts
secretagent09: GW, I appreciate your reply however I do not agree that love is a giving and taking relationship. I will be 80 years old in 19 days and I do know what love is when I give it to someone. I recognize how it makes me feel. I also know how to recognize real love if someone wants to give it to me.

I loved someone who did not love me the way I loved him. Still, I was happy to be in his life and so I continued to love him. He didn't give me romantic love to "take" but he gave me time and friendship and that was enough for me.
Happy early Birthday....

My reply was not meant in any way to be unkind.

It would be nice to have a guy friend to talk to and do things with...the romantic stuff is not as important as we get older....Respect is very important to me now...and that is earned with time.
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May 1, 2022 12:46 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickersonline today!
BB_snickersonline today!BB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
d4nI314: "Unconditional" means without conditions attached...no expectations...expecting nothing in return.

It comes from the heart, and not from the wounded self.
Thanks D. I asked that just because I kind of wanted it spelled out and your answer points out the reality from which a lot of us have or do operate yanno, ignoring the heart and choosing fear that is always conditional.
d4nI314:
As for pets...yes, we have them for various reasons.
But it will still be for something we're lacking of.

E g I see many people here rescuing abandoned animals. Maybe there's a part in them that needs rescuing?

Yeah, dunno Or perhaps their arrow is true? I don't necessarily see everything that people do as something that comes from a lack, unless it is ego or fear generated. Spreading love, I don't think is buoyed by lack of love if you catch my drift. It is from having love, so not a lack, but perhaps giving love to those that lack it. hmmm

d4nI314: Or....they may have some unfinished business with pets from previous lives?
They may have made some soul contracts?
Possiblities abound.


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May 1, 2022 12:49 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickersonline today!
BB_snickersonline today!BB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Youcannow: The topic of love is not something that can be put into words & certainly not up for debate .
How unfortunate for youcannow.
While your name seems to deny your comment, I am sorry that you are unable put love into words. wave
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May 1, 2022 12:52 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickersonline today!
BB_snickersonline today!BB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
lindsyjones:

Thank you for that true sense of what love is "not asking anything".

It's the glow, it's the spirit in us that makes love not needing anything. I think, the monks, do have this in themselves and live by it.

My respects BB.
It's awesome that you see it lindsy!

Thank you, and
Thank god/source. bowing
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May 1, 2022 12:54 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
BB_snickersonline today!
BB_snickersonline today!BB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
secretagent09: GW, I appreciate your reply however I do not agree that love is a giving and taking relationship. I will be 80 years old in 19 days and I do know what love is when I give it to someone. I recognize how it makes me feel. I also know how to recognize real love if someone wants to give it to me.

I loved someone who did not love me the way I loved him. Still, I was happy to be in his life and so I continued to love him. He didn't give me romantic love to "take" but he gave me time and friendship and that was enough for me.
thumbs up heart beating
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May 1, 2022 12:56 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
I always believed that what people know isn't always what someone else before them said...
Everything is naturally put under question and naturally allows to be changed.
Life would be a very boring thing if we had no chance to have a different experience and truths about this experience.
I can not and will not accept everything is exactly what someone else tells me it is, especially if I have my own, unique experience about it.
And this is how it should be...
Like it or not...
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May 1, 2022 12:58 PM CST ~Love is Incapable of Asking For Anything~
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: I always believed that what people know isn't always what someone else before them said...
Everything is naturally put under question and naturally allows to be changed.
Life would be a very boring thing if we had no chance to have a different experience and truths about this experience.
I can not and will not accept everything is exactly what someone else tells me it is, especially if I have my own, unique experience about it.
And this is how it should be...
Like it or not...
Exactly. Nothing is black & white where love is concerned & every experience is different.
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