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Didi7: Spirituality, and Religion, generally proports a positive outlook about life (regardless of circumstances), yet I have met ‘Christians’ with a negative, and even cynical view of life. (I was even married to one of them).
Does that mean that such persons aren’t spiritual/religious? How can one be faithful AND doubtful, at the same time?
Be it resolved that one cannot claim to be Spiritual/Religious and be a pessimist at the same time!
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Religions are man-made.Does that mean that such persons aren’t spiritual/religious? How can one be faithful AND doubtful, at the same time?
Be it resolved that one cannot claim to be Spiritual/Religious and be a pessimist at the same time!
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Spirituality is yet to be defined?
I have known both religious and "spiritual" people in my life...and on this site - who are very negative and are not true to their beliefs.
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d4nI314: Religions are man-made.
Spirituality is yet to be defined?
I have known both religious and "spiritual" people in my life...and on this site - who are very negative and are not true to their beliefs.
The same with me Spirituality is yet to be defined?
I have known both religious and "spiritual" people in my life...and on this site - who are very negative and are not true to their beliefs.
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Name_Taken_Two: The same with me
Oh, really?I'm so glad not to be the only one, NT
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d4nI314: Oh, really?
I'm so glad not to be the only one, NT
Most certainly, and found most the most religious to be the most hypocritical..I'm so glad not to be the only one, NT
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Name_Taken_Two: The same with me
I think that both - religious and spiritual people - are just cherry pickers.No one follows a code of ethics to the letter.
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Name_Taken_Two: Most certainly, and found most the most religious to be the most hypocritical..
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d4nI314: I think that both - religious and spiritual people - are just cherry pickers.
No one follows a code of ethics to the letter.
I think we all pick and choose, but who has the bestest imaginary friend..No one follows a code of ethics to the letter.
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d4nI314: Religions are man-made.
Spirituality is yet to be defined?
I have known both religious and "spiritual" people in my life...and on this site - who are very negative and are not true to their beliefs.
Spirituality is yet to be defined?
I have known both religious and "spiritual" people in my life...and on this site - who are very negative and are not true to their beliefs.
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d4nI314: I've more or less said that in my next comment.
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d4nI314: Haha...you see, I have a pulse!
Chick peas are my favourite..
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d4nI314: Hi Track
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Interesting topic Didi
it's my favorite topic, I want to say a lot about it but i have a language problem. my English is very bad, I mostly use google-translator to write here. I waste a lot of time to translate my thoughts into English. So i will say in short:
All human beings are equal on the basis of fundamental feelings.
fundamental feelings doesn't need any language. The knowledge generated on the basis of these feelings is called Spiritual knowledge. it doesn't need any language.
But when this knowledge is explained to someone through some language and he accepts it without experiencing it himself, then he becomes religious.
After all, all religions are based on a holy book.
holy books are someone's inner experience based on fundamental feelings.
The author of these holly books had there own inner experience that is why they were all spiritual. But today those who believe in these holly books do not have any inner experience of their own, that is why they become religious.
it's my favorite topic, I want to say a lot about it but i have a language problem. my English is very bad, I mostly use google-translator to write here. I waste a lot of time to translate my thoughts into English. So i will say in short:
All human beings are equal on the basis of fundamental feelings.
fundamental feelings doesn't need any language. The knowledge generated on the basis of these feelings is called Spiritual knowledge. it doesn't need any language.
But when this knowledge is explained to someone through some language and he accepts it without experiencing it himself, then he becomes religious.
After all, all religions are based on a holy book.
holy books are someone's inner experience based on fundamental feelings.
The author of these holly books had there own inner experience that is why they were all spiritual. But today those who believe in these holly books do not have any inner experience of their own, that is why they become religious.
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Being spiritually aware is not necessarily a passport to pleasure, in fact it can be quite the opposite. There really are times when ignorance is bliss.
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Didi7: Spirituality, and Religion, generally proports a positive outlook about life (regardless of circumstances), yet I have met ‘Christians’ with a negative, and even cynical view of life. (I was even married to one of them).
Does that mean that such persons aren’t spiritual/religious? How can one be faithful AND doubtful, at the same time?
Be it resolved that one cannot claim to be Spiritual/Religious and be a pessimist at the same time!
Please state whether you are for or against and present your case in at least 2 points, as concisely as possible.
FOR/AGAINST –
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2.
NB. The results/conclusion will be posted after responses have ended or when this moderator deems it an appropriate time to do so.
Unfortunately christian methodology is how most religions teach god and or jesus. Punishment is at the top of their lists. This sort of attitude about god is destined to reap punishment and suffering in the people that believe it's tenants. As well, duality exists here and it's a difficult thing to bypass, so yes, faith and doubt are both possible for anyone religious or not, until one can wrap their head around nonduality and unison. However religion does not teach that. :-(Does that mean that such persons aren’t spiritual/religious? How can one be faithful AND doubtful, at the same time?
Be it resolved that one cannot claim to be Spiritual/Religious and be a pessimist at the same time!
Please state whether you are for or against and present your case in at least 2 points, as concisely as possible.
FOR/AGAINST –
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NB. The results/conclusion will be posted after responses have ended or when this moderator deems it an appropriate time to do so.
To be true, punishment is not god's message, but the message of men who use fear to control people. God's/source's message is innocence/forgiveness.
I am neither for or against religion as it is your own choice to follow and believe what you want.
I am however for truth. Religion by and large is not anywhere near truth.
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BB_snickers:
I am neither for or against religion as it is your own choice to follow and believe what you want.
I am however for truth. Religion by and large is not anywhere near truth.
True! And it has a lot of interpretations.I am neither for or against religion as it is your own choice to follow and believe what you want.
I am however for truth. Religion by and large is not anywhere near truth.
It's all a matter of perception.
Hello my friend
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Didi7: Spirituality, and Religion, generally proports a positive outlook about life (regardless of circumstances), yet I have met ‘Christians’ with a negative, and even cynical view of life. (I was even married to one of them).
Does that mean that such persons aren’t spiritual/religious? How can one be faithful AND doubtful, at the same time?
Be it resolved that one cannot claim to be Spiritual/Religious and be a pessimist at the same time!
Please state whether you are for or against and present your case in at least 2 points, as concisely as possible.
FOR/AGAINST –
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2.
NB. The results/conclusion will be posted after responses have ended or when this moderator deems it an appropriate time to do so.
What a conundrum this can be. Many people fully desire a spiritual connection, but there are so many red herrings in the road...which doctrine, who's for real, which history (there are several versions of every faith-based belief systems), what actually occurred vs parables and allegory. I have decided, and am comfortable with, just calling or referring to this entity as God. If I am misguided, or not quite on the correct track, I get full credit for wanting to be right. We're only human, God understands this, He knows that its difficult for us to fully know. Thats where Faith comes in. No one alive can really know what's REALLY going on. So, we get credit for having the Faith that what we cannot see or touch or feel is there. And guess what? It's different for every single person. It's supposed to be.Does that mean that such persons aren’t spiritual/religious? How can one be faithful AND doubtful, at the same time?
Be it resolved that one cannot claim to be Spiritual/Religious and be a pessimist at the same time!
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Does that mean that such persons aren’t spiritual/religious? How can one be faithful AND doubtful, at the same time?
Be it resolved that one cannot claim to be Spiritual/Religious and be a pessimist at the same time!
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