Being authentic... (67)

May 30, 2022 10:57 AM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
Something dawned on me recently about authenticity...
There was this underlying thought of equating authenticity to something/someone unadulterated. In its original most natrual form. Free from artifice ...

What dawned on me is that for humans, being authentic is just accepting and being 'as one is' including one's needs, flaws etc. But also including and loving ones needs for being a particular way, wearing a particular type of clothes or make up or brand. So long as it's a representation of who one feels one is to the core ... one is authencally 'representing' onesel. As one is being true and kind to oneself on many levels we can be who we are

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What is your idea of 'authenticity' when it comes to humans?conversing
May 30, 2022 11:09 AM CST Being authentic...
Once our lord knows me

I feel different
May 30, 2022 11:26 AM CST Being authentic...
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Iyyovonline now!IyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA1 Threads 79 Posts
It is my humble opinion that many people cannot define themselves in any way. They are strictly the product of their environment, and cannot go beyond that bounds. Culture plays a part in that, as does media--since the invention of social systems, radio, and printing presses. There is a compelling need, within some people, to conform to society at all costs. Many of these people can function normally, until you throw a live chicken into their backyard. Then they fall apart. Prejudice, then, would seem to be a result of such inexplicable behavior (though there are more reasons, to be sure).

So, take the test. Go one day, in your normal environment, without "social media", without TV, without telephone, without music, and see if you nearly go out of mind. If you do, you are excessively compelled by external social pressures, and you cannot resist them--or to steal a line from Patrick Stewart, in a synthetic Borg monotone, "Resistance is futile." If your eyes, ears, and mouth, cannot stop the constant flow of external input from the outside, it is likely that it is due to the complete absence of anything on the inside that will take its place when those other things are gone. Even reading a book, might be considered social pressure, unless it is strictly scientific (ie, containing no hint of Atheism). If you fall asleep when attempting such things, you are certainly in the "danger zone".

The "live chicken" mentioned above is metaphorical. No chickens were harmed in the writing of this response. (If you are comforted by this last paragraph, you have failed the test.)

Shalom,
Iyyov
May 30, 2022 11:44 AM CST Being authentic...
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It helps if you leave school early after failing exams
May 30, 2022 11:47 AM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
Iyyov: It is my humble opinion that many people cannot define themselves in any way. They are strictly the product of their environment, and cannot go beyond that bounds. Culture plays a part in that, as does media--since the invention of social systems, radio, and printing presses. There is a compelling need, within some people, to conform to society at all costs. Many of these people can function normally, until you throw a live chicken into their backyard. Then they fall apart. Prejudice, then, would seem to be a result of such inexplicable behavior (though there are more reasons, to be sure).

So, take the test. Go one day, in your normal environment, without "social media", without TV, without telephone, without music, and see if you nearly go out of mind. If you do, you are excessively compelled by external social pressures, and you cannot resist them--or to steal a line from Patrick Stewart, in a synthetic Borg monotone, "Resistance is futile." If your eyes, ears, and mouth, cannot stop the constant flow of external input from the outside, it is likely that it is due to the complete absence of anything on the inside that will take its place when those other things are gone. Even reading a book, might be considered social pressure, unless it is strictly scientific (ie, containing no hint of Atheism). If you fall asleep when attempting such things, you are certainly in the "danger zone".

The "live chicken" mentioned above is metaphorical. No chickens were harmed in the writing of this response. (If you are comforted by this last paragraph, you have failed the test.)

Shalom,
Iyyov
Thanks for your contribution. How does apply or not to yourself?

In my personal case I mostly don't do social media and not owned a TV in many years. The only live chickens in my life are those that lay eggs laugh
May 30, 2022 11:47 AM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
pedro27: Once our lord knows me

I feel different
Thanks for your contribution Pedro
May 30, 2022 11:53 AM CST Being authentic...
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Track16online now!Track16Little Hearts Ease, Newfoundland Canada1,109 Threads 1,110 Posts
I can only speak from my point of view but what you see is what you get.
May 30, 2022 11:55 AM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
Track16: I can only speak from my point of view but what you see is what you get.
And what is it that 'we get'?
May 30, 2022 11:56 AM CST Being authentic...
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Track16online now!Track16Little Hearts Ease, Newfoundland Canada1,109 Threads 1,110 Posts
Selenite: And what is it that 'we get'?
Authentic me. I can't describe what it is but its real lol
May 30, 2022 12:00 PM CST Being authentic...
Selenite: Thanks for your contribution Pedro
D universe know us better tan we know our selfs imo
May 30, 2022 12:03 PM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
Track16: Authentic me. I can't describe what it is but its real lol
Does that mean that even though you can't describe it, you clearly know who/how you are?
May 30, 2022 12:07 PM CST Being authentic...
as in feelins speck louder tan words
May 30, 2022 12:07 PM CST Being authentic...
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Track16online now!Track16Little Hearts Ease, Newfoundland Canada1,109 Threads 1,110 Posts
Selenite: Does that mean that even though you can't describe it, you clearly know who/how you are?
In later years I do. Wasn't always the case, I basically had to destroy myself to figure out who I was when rebuilding. I can't describe it because one minute I'm as foolish as a bag of hammers and next moment I can be talking science or philosophy. Its not a split personality or anything like that, I just see both sides of a lot of things.
May 30, 2022 12:09 PM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
pedro27: D universe know us better tan we know our selfs imo
May be Pedro.
My question was not about God or the Universe. M8ore about sharing what 'being authentic' means to people.
May 30, 2022 12:12 PM CST Being authentic...
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Iyyovonline now!IyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA1 Threads 79 Posts
I don't watch TV, but do watch old VHS movies, and the occasional YouTube (videos on electronics), when google doesn't censure it and kick me out. Yes, I live the life that I outlined above. All Observant Jews walk away from their cell-phones for Shabbos, for 25 hours, every week. It is "normal" to us.

Shalom,
Iyyov
May 30, 2022 12:13 PM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
Track16: In later years I do. Wasn't always the case, I basically had to destroy myself to figure out who I was when rebuilding. I can't describe it because one minute I'm as foolish as a bag of hammers and next moment I can be talking science or philosophy. Its not a split personality or anything like that, I just see both sides of a lot of things.
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But if you stopped one of your facets from existing you would not be authentic then. I don't think many people know themselves when they're younger.
Multifaceted people are way more interesting that people who are 'one dimentional' ... in my opinion ...
May 30, 2022 12:22 PM CST Being authentic...
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain76 Threads 1 Polls 8,345 Posts
Iyyov: I don't watch TV, but do watch old VHS movies, and the occasional YouTube (videos on electronics), when google doesn't censure it and kick me out. Yes, I live the life that I outlined above. All Observant Jews walk away from their cell-phones for Shabbos, for 25 hours, every week. It is "normal" to us.

Shalom,
Iyyov
You described many things in your post. Which is the life you lead? Do you mean you take the test once a week by walking away from all social media contact including cell-phone for 25 hours? Do you mean that's proof you haven't been braineashed by 'the non-religious powers that be'? But it's not a decision taken from free will since your religion demands you do that. Non religious people may argue that a person brainwashed by religion may do that ...
It's very interesting to see people's perceptions and where they place the boundaries ... so much is relative to so much else...
May 30, 2022 12:22 PM CST Being authentic...
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK29 Threads 8,359 Posts
Our masks and affectations are our own and therefore inherently authentic?

Yeah, I like that. Nice one, Sel. laugh
May 30, 2022 12:22 PM CST Being authentic...
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Track16online now!Track16Little Hearts Ease, Newfoundland Canada1,109 Threads 1,110 Posts
Selenite: But if you stopped one of your facets from existing you would not be authentic then. I don't think many people know themselves when they're younger.
Multifaceted people are way more interesting that people who are 'one dimentional' ... in my opinion ...
Totally correct. You can temper it a bit if you are around certain people who would not react so well to it but to suppress it would mean that you are not being you. Besides, when you are being you, you don't have to remember what you were yesterday.
May 30, 2022 12:24 PM CST Being authentic...
Selenite: May be Pedro.
My question was not about God or the Universe. M8ore about sharing what 'being authentic' means to people.
bein real and autentic is d best, its openin up and bein true to oneself and oters

wic rubs off on oters wic is a bonus all round
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