Were the Founders Liberal or Conservative? (29)
Liberals today are for a form of monarchy
"With a couple of exceptions, such as atheist Thomas Paine, the founding fathers were small “r” republicans. Since they furiously rejected the rule by federal judges and bureaucrats liberals call democracy, the Founding Fathers were less liberal than I am.
In fact, the Founding Father started the American Revolution to revolt against what liberals now call democracy. Remember the Boston Tea Party? It was a revolt against the political authority granted to an early corporation called the British East Indian Company. This corporation was so powerful that they were able to dictate to American colonists that they would only buy tea from this bunch, and American commerce would largely have to cease to protect this corporation’s profits. So, liberalism, or government owned by corporations, was the proximate cause of the American Revolution.
Two prominent early liberals are John Adams, whose remembered accomplishment was to take away the freedom of Americans to criticize their own government (what liberals call “hate crimes” today, which are anything hated by liberals), called the Alien and Sedition Act. Honest Abe Lincoln was the other. During the Mexican War, which was a contest to see whether the US or Mexico would be regional hegemon, Honest Abe sided with Mexico. Had Honest Abe and his liberal comrades gotten their way, no doubt America would’ve been limited to its original thirteen colonies, being surrounded by Mexico on the south and west, and Britain to the north."
"With a couple of exceptions, such as atheist Thomas Paine, the founding fathers were small “r” republicans. Since they furiously rejected the rule by federal judges and bureaucrats liberals call democracy, the Founding Fathers were less liberal than I am.
In fact, the Founding Father started the American Revolution to revolt against what liberals now call democracy. Remember the Boston Tea Party? It was a revolt against the political authority granted to an early corporation called the British East Indian Company. This corporation was so powerful that they were able to dictate to American colonists that they would only buy tea from this bunch, and American commerce would largely have to cease to protect this corporation’s profits. So, liberalism, or government owned by corporations, was the proximate cause of the American Revolution.
Two prominent early liberals are John Adams, whose remembered accomplishment was to take away the freedom of Americans to criticize their own government (what liberals call “hate crimes” today, which are anything hated by liberals), called the Alien and Sedition Act. Honest Abe Lincoln was the other. During the Mexican War, which was a contest to see whether the US or Mexico would be regional hegemon, Honest Abe sided with Mexico. Had Honest Abe and his liberal comrades gotten their way, no doubt America would’ve been limited to its original thirteen colonies, being surrounded by Mexico on the south and west, and Britain to the north."
"Not liberals in the modern sense, but certainly in the original Enlightenment sense. Modern liberalism in the context of American politics means almost precisely the opposite of what it meant in 1776. Liberalism is essential about small, unobtrusive, limited government, with powers strictly defined in a constitution, low taxes, private property rights, free market capitalism, and a protection of religious liberty from government authority. The founders were explicitly opposed to any political ideology that could in any way be thought of as Marxist in the modern sense. They were opposed to power being arbitrarily imposed from a centralized national government as we just saw exercised by Joe Biden. Our modern government is what the founders tried most desperately to prevent us from ever becoming."
"At the time of the founding, the Founding Fathers were considered classically Liberal. Remember, at that point, most of the world was ruled by Monarchs or warlords. The Constitution was a liberal document, rights of the individual were paramount & government was there to do a few things to further freedom & liberty. Primary function to protect American Citizens from enemies foreign & domestic.
If the founders were alive today, they would be considered conservative, maintain the Constitutional Republic. Liberals today are for a form of Monarchy, an all powerful state directing where private assets go through a huge bureaucracy regulating & taxing everything & everyone.
The death of the American Republic began in 1913 with passage of the Income Tax & Federal Reserve Bank designed to prop up deficit spending with a fiat currency. Also, per typical, Congress knowingly lied to the American Citizens saying the Income Tax would remain at 1%. What de Toc Tocqueville warned of, tax system would be used by the political class to bribe the voters for their vote & ultimately destroy democracy.
For the past 5 decades or so, the American public education system has been a willing co-conspirator in this con. History, Civics, Economic Systems, political free science, & reasoning are no longer taught leaving a great deal of the population open to manipulation by America's increasing Marxist political class. Too many Republican Establishment types also fall into this bucket with the near entirety of the Democrat Party."
If the founders were alive today, they would be considered conservative, maintain the Constitutional Republic. Liberals today are for a form of Monarchy, an all powerful state directing where private assets go through a huge bureaucracy regulating & taxing everything & everyone.
The death of the American Republic began in 1913 with passage of the Income Tax & Federal Reserve Bank designed to prop up deficit spending with a fiat currency. Also, per typical, Congress knowingly lied to the American Citizens saying the Income Tax would remain at 1%. What de Toc Tocqueville warned of, tax system would be used by the political class to bribe the voters for their vote & ultimately destroy democracy.
For the past 5 decades or so, the American public education system has been a willing co-conspirator in this con. History, Civics, Economic Systems, political free science, & reasoning are no longer taught leaving a great deal of the population open to manipulation by America's increasing Marxist political class. Too many Republican Establishment types also fall into this bucket with the near entirety of the Democrat Party."
galrads: "At the time of the founding, the Founding Fathers were considered classically Liberal. Remember, at that point, most of the world was ruled by Monarchs or warlords. The Constitution was a liberal document, rights of the individual were paramount & government was there to do a few things to further freedom & liberty. Primary function to protect American Citizens from enemies foreign & domestic.
If the founders were alive today, they would be considered conservative, maintain the Constitutional Republic. Liberals today are for a form of Monarchy, an all powerful state directing where private assets go through a huge bureaucracy regulating & taxing everything & everyone.
The death of the American Republic began in 1913 with passage of the Income Tax & Federal Reserve Bank designed to prop up deficit spending with a fiat currency. Also, per typical, Congress knowingly lied to the American Citizens saying the Income Tax would remain at 1%. What de Toc Tocqueville warned of, tax system would be used by the political class to bribe the voters for their vote & ultimately destroy democracy.
For the past 5 decades or so, the American public education system has been a willing co-conspirator in this con. History, Civics, Economic Systems, political free science, & reasoning are no longer taught leaving a great deal of the population open to manipulation by America's increasing Marxist political class. Too many Republican Establishment types also fall into this bucket with the near entirety of the Democrat Party."
You forgot to cite the quote you took from Doug Haggard. At least you didn't claim it as your own.If the founders were alive today, they would be considered conservative, maintain the Constitutional Republic. Liberals today are for a form of Monarchy, an all powerful state directing where private assets go through a huge bureaucracy regulating & taxing everything & everyone.
The death of the American Republic began in 1913 with passage of the Income Tax & Federal Reserve Bank designed to prop up deficit spending with a fiat currency. Also, per typical, Congress knowingly lied to the American Citizens saying the Income Tax would remain at 1%. What de Toc Tocqueville warned of, tax system would be used by the political class to bribe the voters for their vote & ultimately destroy democracy.
For the past 5 decades or so, the American public education system has been a willing co-conspirator in this con. History, Civics, Economic Systems, political free science, & reasoning are no longer taught leaving a great deal of the population open to manipulation by America's increasing Marxist political class. Too many Republican Establishment types also fall into this bucket with the near entirety of the Democrat Party."
president2525: You forgot to cite the quote you took from Doug Haggard. At least you didn't claim it as your own.
Yep, i put the quotes in "quotation marks." Wouldn't quotation mark myself. Looks like most of the democrat politicians don't like the idea of 46 running for potus in 2024.
Trump desecrates our flag just like he trashes the Constitution. Sickening to see that gross traitor humping the symbol of our nation.
Good riddance to Cadet Bonespurs.
Send him a sympathy card when he goes to prison.
Good riddance to Cadet Bonespurs.
Send him a sympathy card when he goes to prison.
Name one thing that President Trump did to trash the US Constitution. I bet you cannot.
IntoTheWoods: Trump desecrates our flag just like he trashes the Constitution. Sickening to see that gross traitor humping the symbol of our nation.
Good riddance to Cadet Bonespurs.
Send him a sympathy card when he goes to prison.
Good riddance to Cadet Bonespurs.
Send him a sympathy card when he goes to prison.
Conrad where is Veritas ?
Night_Dragon: Name one thing that President Trump did to trash the US Constitution. I bet you cannot.
Amswered you on a blog already. So did Myrta. You have memory problems? Ill tell you again.Emoluments clause. Trump made money off his position. Unconstitutional.
USC codes covering several of Trump's crimes including defrauding the country and interfering with an official government proceeding.
There's also his stunt trying to threaten Raffensperger into throwing him votes. Memba that?
And he endangered Pence.
You should pay attention before you comment.
You can ignore Trump's crimes but the nation is holding him to account.
Watch coverage of the hearings so you know what's happening.
Worst president in history. Makes Nixon look like a choir boy.
Ignoring crimes, like Hunter in Ukraine and Joe threatening to withhold aid money. He is on tape bragging about it. You know if that were Trump you would be saying it was illegal but you only call out Trump not Biden. Why is that?
president2525: Let's analyze some facts about the founding of the United States of America:
The 55 white businessmen who signed the constitution of the newly formed United States had some central ideas about what type of government would be the 'rule of law' after England and King George were eradicated from power. These basic tenets still guide the public policies and processes for all American citizens.
1. Popular Sovereignty: The idea that the people hold the power in decisions made by government officials. The power of the government comes from the consent of the people and serve solely to serve the people.
2. Limited Government: The Founders specifically restricted the power of the elected officials and allowed for changes to the law over time as the people saw fit. The original Articles of Confederation were unable to manage federal policies and processes and were changed in 1789 to allow the federal government to manage foreign trade; create a common money system; create a military for international safety; and bring unity among the thirteen original states.
3. Separation of Powers: The Constitution created three equal branches of government who would have specific roles within the government that specifically designated roles to each branch. This concept that the government could only be run with a shared power across the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches, was a unique idea that was in direct opposition to the authority of one king or president.
4. Checks and Balances: The Founders specifically gave the authority to challenge the decisions made in the other two branches. These checks would ensure that a thoughtful and consistent balance of power that prevented any one branch from becoming too powerful.
5. Judicial Review: The Founders established the power of the federal court system to challenge laws established by Congress and enforced by the Executive branch.
6. Federalism: The founders established limited power for the federal government that ensured that states, local government and the people retained the vast majority of power.
Given the establishment of the Constitution and subsequent Bill of Rights - Were the Founders Liberal or Conservative?
everything you Demtards have rejected today!The 55 white businessmen who signed the constitution of the newly formed United States had some central ideas about what type of government would be the 'rule of law' after England and King George were eradicated from power. These basic tenets still guide the public policies and processes for all American citizens.
1. Popular Sovereignty: The idea that the people hold the power in decisions made by government officials. The power of the government comes from the consent of the people and serve solely to serve the people.
2. Limited Government: The Founders specifically restricted the power of the elected officials and allowed for changes to the law over time as the people saw fit. The original Articles of Confederation were unable to manage federal policies and processes and were changed in 1789 to allow the federal government to manage foreign trade; create a common money system; create a military for international safety; and bring unity among the thirteen original states.
3. Separation of Powers: The Constitution created three equal branches of government who would have specific roles within the government that specifically designated roles to each branch. This concept that the government could only be run with a shared power across the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches, was a unique idea that was in direct opposition to the authority of one king or president.
4. Checks and Balances: The Founders specifically gave the authority to challenge the decisions made in the other two branches. These checks would ensure that a thoughtful and consistent balance of power that prevented any one branch from becoming too powerful.
5. Judicial Review: The Founders established the power of the federal court system to challenge laws established by Congress and enforced by the Executive branch.
6. Federalism: The founders established limited power for the federal government that ensured that states, local government and the people retained the vast majority of power.
Given the establishment of the Constitution and subsequent Bill of Rights - Were the Founders Liberal or Conservative?
Conrad73: everything you Demtards have rejected today!
Leave it to the ConMan to take it personal. Freedom is only free if people are allowed to express themselves. Apparently, your idea of freedom is to agree with your narrow thoughts. Sorry Connie - the world has passed you by!
president2525: Leave it to the ConMan to take it personal. Freedom is only free if people are allowed to express themselves. Apparently, your idea of freedom is to agree with your narrow thoughts. Sorry Connie - the world has passed you by!
No matter how much you trash Trump or other posters, it won't make Biden, his administration or the DNC or you, look any betterCossackCat: No matter how much you trash Trump or other posters, it won't make Biden, his administration or the DNC or you, look any better
Does anyone really take a daily check on the health of the world on a daily basis and place the blame or reward with the current US Federal Government? Only the Cat would blame her failures on the current president. Pity you don't have a job, a family, a life, or anything worthwhile to do. Success comes from your own accomplishments.
Claim the Blame! Look in the mirror.
Claim the Blame! Look in the mirror.
CossackCat: No matter how much you trash Trump or other posters, it won't make Biden, his administration or the DNC or you, look any better
We're doing fine, catpan. Trump can't hide his true colors. He stinks to high heaven. Worse than Nixon.About 60% percent of Americans want Trump charged with seditious conspiracy.
Percent is rising as the hearings expose Trump's evildoing.
Can't hide the truth, even if it makes you mad, bro.
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The 55 white businessmen who signed the constitution of the newly formed United States had some central ideas about what type of government would be the 'rule of law' after England and King George were eradicated from power. These basic tenets still guide the public policies and processes for all American citizens.
1. Popular Sovereignty: The idea that the people hold the power in decisions made by government officials. The power of the government comes from the consent of the people and serve solely to serve the people.
2. Limited Government: The Founders specifically restricted the power of the elected officials and allowed for changes to the law over time as the people saw fit. The original Articles of Confederation were unable to manage federal policies and processes and were changed in 1789 to allow the federal government to manage foreign trade; create a common money system; create a military for international safety; and bring unity among the thirteen original states.
3. Separation of Powers: The Constitution created three equal branches of government who would have specific roles within the government that specifically designated roles to each branch. This concept that the government could only be run with a shared power across the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches, was a unique idea that was in direct opposition to the authority of one king or president.
4. Checks and Balances: The Founders specifically gave the authority to challenge the decisions made in the other two branches. These checks would ensure that a thoughtful and consistent balance of power that prevented any one branch from becoming too powerful.
5. Judicial Review: The Founders established the power of the federal court system to challenge laws established by Congress and enforced by the Executive branch.
6. Federalism: The founders established limited power for the federal government that ensured that states, local government and the people retained the vast majority of power.
Given the establishment of the Constitution and subsequent Bill of Rights - Were the Founders Liberal or Conservative?