Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe (14)

Jun 25, 2022 10:43 PM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
Shelly is the biological daughter of Norma McCorvy and woman behind the roe vs wade abortion case (the roe baby). Her identity was unknown until 2021.

Her (short) story.

Jun 26, 2022 2:38 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
galrads: Shelly is the biological daughter of Norma McCorvy and woman behind the roe vs wade abortion case (the roe baby). Her identity was unknown until 2021.

Her (short) story.
Once again we have Governments controlling people's choices. Roe versus Wade was just one example that changed the law but took 2 years to get passed and now 50 years later it's been reversed.

A woman can get raped and be forced to have the child of said rapistdoh
Jun 26, 2022 4:49 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
Tiger_Moth: Once again we have Governments controlling people's choices. Roe versus Wade was just one example that changed the law but took 2 years to get passed and now 50 years later it's been reversed.

A woman can get raped and be forced to have the child of said rapist
By another member in the Blogs!

In response to: What to tell a pro-murderer of innocent babies by abortion when they ask, "What about women who are victims of rape or incest?" Recent statistics show rape and incest represent .02% of all abortions. That's 99.998% of abortions done because of inconvenience. If rape and incest are .02% of all abortions, that means of the 63 million abortions done in the last 50 years, 12,600 were rape and incest victims. So do you think it's okay to murder 62,987,400 babies so rape and incest victims can murder their babies too? Say that out loud!! Warped thinking IMO. Also, 86% of all abortions are by women in their 20s in unmarried households.
Besides,SCOTUS reversed nothing,they simply returned the Jurisdiction back to the States where it belongs!
Jun 26, 2022 7:03 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
Tiger_Moth: Once again we have Governments controlling people's choices. Roe versus Wade was just one example that changed the law but took 2 years to get passed and now 50 years later it's been reversed.

A woman can get raped and be forced to have the child of said rapist
The roe vs wade court hearing did not change a law here in the USA.

Society by way of state and local government representation here tells us a lot of things we can not do with our bodies. To name a few examples of body control: In most places here, we usually can not drink and drive intoxicated, we can not pimp our bodies in prostitution, I think we are not allowed to fornicate or m**turbate in public. I don't know for sure but I believe public nudity is not allowed here in most places, but might be ok in England?. Up until more recently, we were not allowed to defecate in public, we can't kill others using our bodies etc.

The roe vs wade case decision opened the way to on-demand abortions in mass and the harvesting of body parts for profit. The case was not legislated and the issue is now back to society dealing with it, where it should be imho.

Only Our Declaration of Independence "recognizes" the unalienable rights of “life", liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The highest law in this land is our US Constitution and it explicitly protects "life" and liberty; I believe happiness goes unmentioned in it.
Jun 26, 2022 7:24 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
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Tiger_Moth: Once again we have Governments controlling people's choices. Roe versus Wade was just one example that changed the law but took 2 years to get passed and now 50 years later it's been reversed.

A woman can get raped and be forced to have the child of said rapist
Fears of government control didn't stop the death-shirkers imposing lockdown the false imprisonment of billions. But who is to say that the state cannot instead be mobilized against death-shirkers in a defence of young life?
Jun 26, 2022 7:48 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
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This argument will rumble on for ever as long as it seen as 'black or white.' There is no right or wrong, it's a moral issue and morals are not set in stone, nor are they universal.
The parameters are so broad in this debate that maybe a 'one size fits all' solution is just not possible, there needs to be some compeomise from both sides.

"I think abortion should be approved of or disapproved of according to each circumstance."
Dalai Lama, 1993
Jun 26, 2022 7:49 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
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ChesneyChrist: Fears of government control didn't stop the death-shirkers imposing lockdown the false imprisonment of billions. But who is to say that the state cannot instead be mobilized against death-shirkers in a defence of young life?
The argument from personal choice has been trashed not just by lockdown but by the new corporate caste system that forces all of big business to sound the same and requires all staff to think and feel in the exact same way.

But there's rebellion against this even on Netflix there's been a recent turnaround where people can have different opinions in an attempt not to alienate potential customers. How much into liberty they really are is anybody's guess but the point is things can change. To be honest I can only imagine this century being authoritarian one way or another because the rising power is an ant hive.
Jun 26, 2022 8:09 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
[qThe qustion will be: if ots' madeeuote=bodleing2]This argument will rumble on for ever as long as it seen as 'black or white.' There is no right or wrong, it's a moral issue and morals are not set in stone, nor are they universal.
The parameters are so broad in this debate that maybe a 'one size fits all' solution is just not possible, there needs to be some compeomise from both sides.

"I think abortion should be approved of or disapproved of according to each circumstance."
Dalai Lama, 1993Will stricter abortion laws make less abortions
and how much less. Is there any data on this?
I'm still pro choice but hope each and every (potential) parent
will consider to keep the baby anyway.

If data shows a ban saves plenty o kids then maybe I'd vote for it, but there must be
a plan B for the law breakers then. Don't want no knitting needles inserted ever again do we.
Jun 26, 2022 8:10 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
Will stricter abortion laws make less abortions
and how much less. Is there any data on this?
I'm still pro choice but hope each and every (potential) parent
will consider to keep the baby anyway.

If data shows a ban saves plenty o kids then maybe I'd vote for it, but there must be
a plan B for the law breakers then. Don't want no knitting needles inserted ever again do we.
Jun 26, 2022 8:25 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
I didn’t intend for this thread to be another debate on the controversy of roe vs wade. I just wanted to make her known, In case people were unaware of this ”woman” (Shelly) who survived her birthing person’s wish to terminate her Life.

Shelly has said she will not say which side of the controversy she is on but I bet she is glad to have a life.


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Jun 26, 2022 8:36 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
I know. Just wanted to answer the Englishman. drinking
Jun 26, 2022 8:40 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
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And the project of this century is to experiment with the idea that people can be influenced into just about anything which does nothing for the idea of respecting your ability to make choices. Their aim is a human race put upon massively and I bet it ends up conservative. For all the purported aims of the New Century Person the world actually becomes more conservative.
Jun 26, 2022 9:37 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
Oh blimey, that must throw up a lot of emotional issues, especially as Thornton's sister expressed her pro-choice stance.

If we want it to be fair [as possible] for everyone as Thornton's sister suggested, we have to follow the example of the Dalai Lama in treating each case individually.

If you think a woman has the right to terminate, or not terminate an ectopic pregnancy regardless of which life ends, then you agree that there should be a choice for pregnant women.

Having more than one person (i.e. the patient and medical staff) involved in the decision making process should protect people against the worst excesses, but I suppose there's always the possibilty that several people with no ethical boundaries could, in theory, all converge.

I still think the best outcome could be achieved through providing an environmet where women feel they can go through with a pregnancy. That's not somethng you have as standard in the US.
Jun 26, 2022 9:55 AM CST Meet Shelly Lynn Thornton daughter of birthing person Norma McCorvy, aka Jane Roe
bodleing2: This argument will rumble on for ever as long as it seen as 'black or white.' There is no right or wrong, it's a moral issue and morals are not set in stone, nor are they universal.
The parameters are so broad in this debate that maybe a 'one size fits all' solution is just not possible, there needs to be some compeomise from both sides.

"I think abortion should be approved of or disapproved of according to each circumstance."
Dalai Lama, 1993
Wise words if only they could be applied.sigh
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