Jesus ( Archived) (19)

And I thought this was a dating site

Whatever made you think that?

Because as yer man says above am fulfilling my right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness.....democratically of course

It's a difficult one because it is the life of the baby on the hand versus the liberty and pursuit of happiness of the mother on the other hand. Unless you're saying that liberty and the pursuit of happiness for a woman is to be a stay at a home mum. A woman's place is in the home which I don't necessarily agree with. Liberty sounds like a choice and the pursuit of happiness sounds like an ambition that could easily be a careerist. The fetus has no liberty nor right to pursue happiness, it's stuck in the womb, and to be pro-life the woman must also give up liberty and the right to pursue happiness. She must stay in the same boat as the baby where you're forced into living a certain way. To be pro-life you accept unfreedom for the sake of the children.

Nah I very much reject the idea that liberty and the pursuit of happiness for women is to be a stay at home mum. I actually do think women have dreams more than that. But heres the problem when you're talking about Jesus and your founding fathers who were not the god squad but a group of deists who founded a revolutionary modern state that puts personal choice and the individual as the foundation of society.

And do you know who praised the founding fathers efforts to be free? Karl Marx. You're on a hiding to nothing trying to use the enlightenment to say that a woman's place is in the home. Your founding fathers were liberals, leftists if you want to say that a woman's place is in the home you must also have the King in his castle. You'd have to default on the age old pecking order where life is decided for you, being told what to do and how to feel about it since time immemorial.