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Jun 30, 2022 12:45 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
I've just bought an eco concentrated multipurpose cleaner online. It was £9.50 for 500ml including postage and 3ml is sufficient to make 10 litres of cleaning fluid with water.

That's 1667 litres of cleaning fluid. If I use 1 litre per week (unlikely) and live for another 30 years, there'll still be some left over. laugh
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Jun 30, 2022 12:54 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
99% iso alcohol is a great cleaner and disinfectant and it leaves no chemical trace. No doubt it takes resources to make it but no more than it do to make other cleaners and most cleaners today are toxic soup.
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Jun 30, 2022 1:12 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I see a theme in your priorities, Dedo.

What do you heat those coffee makers with? As gas is unsustainable, polluting and increasing in price, might your barista machine powered by a sustainable energy source be more frugal in the long run?
Wood... sourced from trees that have to be trimmed every year to maintain healthy, like olive trees for instance ...
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Jun 30, 2022 1:14 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Track16: 99% iso alcohol is a great cleaner and disinfectant and it leaves no chemical trace. No doubt it takes resources to make it but no more than it do to make other cleaners and most cleaners today are toxic soup.
What's the 1%?

I've solved my sticky label issue by rubbing some rapeseed oil left over from cooking on the jar and leaving it for an hour. The sticky stuff scrubbed off with Ecover washing up liquid after that.
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Jun 30, 2022 1:17 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Selenite: Wood... sourced from trees that have to be trimmed every year to maintain healthy, like olive trees for instance ...
You beast, Sel.

You know I have wood stove and olive tree envy. mumbling

giggle
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Jun 30, 2022 1:18 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Marmalade55
Marmalade55Marmalade55Rothercastersly, South Yorkshire, England UK4 Threads 138 Posts
Selenite: Wood... sourced from trees that have to be trimmed every year to maintain healthy, like olive trees for instance ...
Olive wood contains just about every toxin known to man. If you burn olive wood, you may as well go round to your neighbours and spoon feed them arsenic. uh oh
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Jun 30, 2022 1:19 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
jac_the_gripper: We rarely have the kind of (probably more environmentally friendly) labels that soak off anymore.

Everything's welded down with 'security' adhesive. I'm not sure what kind of environmentally friendly alcohol I can get over here, other than vodka. Once it's denatured from food grade it tends to be rather toxic.

I'm also wary about using it on plastic/painted surfaces, like jar lids.
Believe it or not heat will also take the sticky stuff off.

Sometimes I want to reuse the plastic milk cartons for something else and I don't want the label to be on it. Rather than try to peel the label off I fill the carton with very hot tap water, put the cap back on it and about 15 minutes later the label will come off in one full swoop leaving no residue behind. Works every time.
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Jun 30, 2022 1:28 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
jac_the_gripper: What's the 1%?

I've solved my sticky label issue by rubbing some rapeseed oil left over from cooking on the jar and leaving it for an hour. The sticky stuff scrubbed off with Ecover washing up liquid after that.
The 1% is water
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Jun 30, 2022 1:30 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Dedovix: i have a stove ,wood burner ,bought it recently -for rainy days and 6 cubic meters of wood...i may have to buy 4-5 more for the upcoming winter Its possible that we will have some restriction of electricity coals gas... ,this way i will have a warm house,hot coffee and a cooked meal
In case the shelves in the supermarket go empty overnight...i have a small supply of macaronis,canned food and water filters ...
Exactly!
I have both a wood stove and one of those coffee makers and plenty of other non electric appliances for a plan B if necessary!
And a garden where I can and do grow veg.
Also made a few provisions of non perishables...
What I don't have are water filters .... my water purifying machine is electric ...

@ Jac... I downsized and adopted a more 'frugal' lifestyle years ago! I used to upcycle before it was officially invented and we recycle most things. We have a meet up once a month with a group of friends were we take anything we no longer use or have too many of or too much of to give away to any in the group that needs it or wants it. Clothes, shoes, furnishings, plants, seedlings for the garden, fresh veg from garden, books, utensils etc...
There's another group where people help one another with bigger projects like preparing a garden for planting or other jobs...

People here are always surprised when they see me behind the wheel of a car because I mostly walk everywhere and they forget I have one laugh

It's a lot easier to have a more frugal simple life when one lives outside of large towns and cities, I think ...
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Jun 30, 2022 1:33 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Has anyone got any environmentally friendly tips for getting sticky labels off things like glass jars so they can be reused for storage?
I just soak the jars in water overnight.
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Jun 30, 2022 1:39 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Marmalade55: Olive wood contains just about every toxin known to man. If you burn olive wood, you may as well go round to your neighbours and spoon feed them arsenic.
Really?
That's weird because they all burn wood in the south of Spain, always have done and yet the older generation are style walking around, climbing hills and working at their olive groves dunno
May be us Andalucian folk are born with a natural 'olive wood toxin' immunity dunno laugh
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Jun 30, 2022 1:49 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Marmalade55
Marmalade55Marmalade55Rothercastersly, South Yorkshire, England UK4 Threads 138 Posts
Selenite: Really?
That's weird because they all burn wood in the south of Spain, always have done and yet the older generation are style walking around, climbing hills and working at their olive groves
May be us Andalucian folk are born with a natural 'olive wood toxin' immunity
Okay, so I got it wrong, but that sometimes happens when you just make something up that is unlikely to be true. dunno
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Jun 30, 2022 1:53 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Marmalade55: Okay, so I got it wrong, but that sometimes happens when you just make something up that is unlikely to be true.
laugh laugh
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Jun 30, 2022 2:00 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
jac_the_gripper: You beast, Sel.

You know I have wood stove and olive tree envy.
laugh laugh kiss
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Jun 30, 2022 2:56 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
My life is all about saving, re-using, common sense. I don't have a guest room, so I invested in a hide-a-bed. It serves two very good purposes. I just repaired a cheese/carrot grater that had 'fallen apart'. It's a stand-up one, and the plastic handle just broke and separated. I used non-toxic jewelry bond (like superglue) and it will be fine for awhile longer. If tin foil is not dirty, etc., I try to save it to make stove top burner drip pans, or line a toaster oven pan with it to cut down on cleaning. Live alone and seem to go through too many dishes? Try this: Get a sink-section plastic/rubbermaid dishpan. Set it in the sink. Put one of everything you'll need for the day in it--spoon, knife, fork, bowl, cup, glass, plate. Only use THOSE items. At the end of the day, you'll just have a very small amount of dishes to wash. Easy. Live smaller, live simpler. Use your bicycle or walk, save on gas and car wear and tear. Get washable denim or cloth shopping bags. Cut down on clutter. Line garbage and waste cans with newspaper, use less plastic bags. Avoid new-fangled kitchen clutter. I looked at this vegetable/cheese mandolin thing today--It took a long time to assemble and used up a lot of space. I could cut the food by hand in one-tenth the time. Bogus.....Put a wooden spoon over a pot of boiling water..pasta. It will NOT boil over. Use your microwave sparingly. (They don't "cook" food the same way as conventional, and sometimes , say some nutrition experts, it isn't 'safe'.) Besides, food tastes way better cooked the conventional way, and I like food best cooked over fire or coals, actually. Simplify, Simplify......
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Jun 30, 2022 3:02 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Selenite: I downsized and adopted a more 'frugal' lifestyle years ago!
I'm not sure I ever up-sized to begin with. laugh

Selenite: I used to upcycle before it was officially invented...

It was only offically invented after it was uninvented late 80's, I reckon.

Selenite: ...and we recycle most things. We have a meet up once a month with a group of friends were we take anything we no longer use or have too many of or too much of to give away to any in the group that needs it or wants it. Clothes, shoes, furnishings, plants, seedlings for the garden, fresh veg from garden, books, utensils etc...
There's another group where people help one another with bigger projects like preparing a garden for planting or other jobs...
I like these ideas.

I'm not sure how many like-minded people I'd find where I live, but I think my herb/veg growing in pots and boxes might be catching on in the communal garden.

Selenite: It's a lot easier to have a more frugal simple life when one lives outside of large towns and cities, I think ...
Or perhaps a different kind of frugality.

I live in a village, but it's a bit of a concrete jungle. I probably have the worst of both worlds, but still manage to live a frugal lifestyle. I think creativity is key...and half the fun. smile
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Jun 30, 2022 3:48 PM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
secretagent09: Believe it or not heat will also take the sticky stuff off.

Sometimes I want to reuse the plastic milk cartons for something else and I don't want the label to be on it. Rather than try to peel the label off I fill the carton with very hot tap water, put the cap back on it and about 15 minutes later the label will come off in one full swoop leaving no residue behind. Works every time.
I tried it on a jar.

The plastic label came off really easily...but left all the bloody sticky stuff behind. sigh laugh

All was not lost, however. I rubbed my recycled rapeseed oil on the residue with the hot water still inside the jar and it scrubbed off easily without having to leave it soak, or re-treat it. yay

I have a stash of jars that I've been avoiding cleaning because I've been too unwell to face using chemicals, or stand by the sink scrubbing. I reckon I can do one, or two a day like this without it feeling like a chore.
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Jul 2, 2022 8:59 AM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Has anyone got any environmentally friendly tips for getting sticky labels off things like glass jars so they can be reused for storage?
wave Jac, my go-to remedy for that is ...Oil. You could use a light fragrant oil such as 'Baby oil' or something a bit heavier, such as coconut oil/other cooking oil. This is what I use to removed labels that still remain after soaking and scrubbing, and every last piece can be removed smoothly.

Hope this'll work for you too.
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Jul 2, 2022 9:01 AM CST Frugality: Our Pocket and the Planet's
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I tried it on a jar.

The plastic label came off really easily...but left all the bloody sticky stuff behind.

All was not lost, however. I rubbed my recycled rapeseed oil on the residue with the hot water still inside the jar and it scrubbed off easily without having to leave it soak, or re-treat it.

I have a stash of jars that I've been avoiding cleaning because I've been too unwell to face using chemicals, or stand by the sink scrubbing. I reckon I can do one, or two a day like this without it feeling like a chore.
Well, I now see that my remedy isn't needed grin
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