Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being? ( Archived) (31)

Oct 14, 2022 4:40 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Recently, I read an article which stated that 19% of the world's Indigenous/Aboriginal peoples are considered as "extreme poor", but do they consider themselves to be such? Who/what determines that? Is it because their lifestyles are minimalistic, in comparison to the rest of the world?

Is someone 'poor' solely because others say so about the way that one looks and lives, or is that determined by how one thinks and feels?


What say you?
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Oct 14, 2022 4:55 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
"Some people are so poor, all they have is money."
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Oct 14, 2022 5:00 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Depends on les cercomstances,


littuearalleyelley speak'n.
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Oct 14, 2022 5:40 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
How is poverty defined?
Poverty is about not having enough money to meet basic needs including food, clothing and shelter. However, poverty is more, much more than just not having enough money. The World Bank Organization describes poverty in this way: “Poverty is hunger. Poverty is lack of shelter.
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Oct 14, 2022 5:55 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Coldheaven: How is poverty defined?
Poverty is about not having enough money to meet basic needs including food, clothing and shelter. However, poverty is more, much more than just not having enough money. The World Bank Organization describes poverty in this way: “Poverty is hunger. Poverty is lack of shelter.
What if to meet those basic needs they have to travel for miles, but that's how they've always done it and they think it's normal...
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Oct 14, 2022 6:21 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Selenite: What if to meet those basic needs they have to travel for miles, but that's how they've always done it and they think it's normal...
Well probably it’s not so bad poverty then if they can get all they need but just have to walk further for it.
After all there are people who just can’t get anything at all that they need.
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Oct 14, 2022 6:31 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
If the Indigenous people are happy with how they live, and believe that their needs are being met through their own 'natural' efforts, then they may not consider themselves 'poor' at all. In fact, they may consider themselves rich. This is probably because the things that they value are different from the things that the rest of the world values.hmmm
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Oct 14, 2022 6:32 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Didi7: If the Indigenous people are happy with how they live, and believe that their needs are being met through their own 'natural' efforts, then they may not consider themselves 'poor' at all. In fact, they may consider themselves rich. This is probably because the things that they value are different from the things that the rest of the world values.
In such a case, I would say that poverty is really a state of Mind.
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Oct 14, 2022 7:08 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7: In such a case, I would say that poverty is really a state of Mind.
I agree with this did Iwine
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Oct 14, 2022 7:30 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Didi7: If the Indigenous people are happy with how they live, and believe that their needs are being met through their own 'natural' efforts, then they may not consider themselves 'poor' at all. In fact, they may consider themselves rich. This is probably because the things that they value are different from the things that the rest of the world values.
That's really what I was getting to thumbs up
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Oct 14, 2022 7:39 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Coldheaven: I agree with this did I
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Oct 14, 2022 7:39 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Selenite: That's really what I was getting to
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Oct 14, 2022 7:41 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
bodleing2: "Some people are so poor, all they have is money."
Sadly, they don't know that they're poor.
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Oct 15, 2022 3:51 AM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Selenite: What if to meet those basic needs they have to travel for miles, but that's how they've always done it and they think it's normal...
I'm sure it feels normal to them and speaking objectively that must be normal compared to popping down to tesco. Popping down to tesco is really weird when you think about it, it might be comfortable but it's certainly not normal. We might prefer it but the rich modern world is really weird in reality.
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Oct 15, 2022 8:07 AM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
We don't even realise how spoiled we have become.
And the worst is that we do apply our own experience on people who have little or nothing to do with our lifestyle and cultures.
General statements are a way to stroke our consciousness as we do not know everything and we are not always right as we believe we are.
Someone who has to hunt his own food might look at you as a total looser for not doing it yourself.
Someone with loads of money may be laughing at you for trying to excuse your lack of ability to make money...
Sooo...

dunno
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Oct 15, 2022 11:17 AM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
ChesneyChrist: I'm sure it feels normal to them and speaking objectively that must be normal compared to popping down to tesco. Popping down to tesco is really weird when you think about it, it might be comfortable but it's certainly not normal. We might prefer it but the rich modern world is really weird in reality.
I don't like 'popping down to Tescos' or any other supermarket. I buy most of my food from local people and shops...
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Oct 15, 2022 11:19 AM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: We don't even realise how spoiled we have become.
And the worst is that we do apply our own experience on people who have little or nothing to do with our lifestyle and cultures.
General statements are a way to stroke our consciousness as we do not know everything and we are not always right as we believe we are.
Someone who has to hunt his own food might look at you as a total looser for not doing it yourself.
Someone with loads of money may be laughing at you for trying to excuse your lack of ability to make money...
Sooo...
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Oct 15, 2022 1:31 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
wsg23
wsg23wsg23Miami, Florida USA29 Posts
State and mind and a cultural failure when it comes to handling money.
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Oct 15, 2022 1:50 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
It’s a case of “what you’ve never had , you never miss” .
When most of us were growing up , mobile phones weren’t invented, but the majority of people couldn’t do without one now !
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Oct 15, 2022 4:19 PM CST Is poverty a state of Mind or a state of Being?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Youcannow: It’s a case of “what you’ve never had , you never miss” .
When most of us were growing up , mobile phones weren’t invented, but the majority of people couldn’t do without one now !
Yes, perhaps it is.hmmm
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