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Oct 19, 2022 12:06 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
jagtom
jagtomjagtomocean city, Devon, England UK138 Threads 1 Polls 1,125 Posts
Ms Truss faced a fresh wave of anger after No 10 said the policy was under review and her new Chancellor failed to commit to it as he seeks to plug a multibillion-pound black hole.

But she told Prime Minister’s Questions: “We’ve been clear in our manifesto that we will maintain the triple lock and I’m completely committed to it – so is the Chancellor.”
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On Twitter later, she said “protecting the triple lock” will “ensure pensioners get the most generous support”.

Downing Street said the decision was taken “jointly” by Ms Truss and Mr Hunt on Wednesday morning ahead of her appearance at the despatch box.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said it reflects the “unique position” of pensioners who are unable to increase their income through work.

“She and the Chancellor have discussed and agreed the position the Prime Minister set out this morning,” the spokesman said.

However, Ms Truss continues to face a rebellion on another front after she refused to give the same commitment to increasing benefits in line with inflation.

Tory John Baron urged her to show “compassion in politics” by maintaining the inflation link.

Ms Truss said: “We will always work to protect the most vulnerable”, but stopped short of using the same firm language she reserved for pensions.

Existing policy dictates that, from April next year, the state pension and benefits should increase by 10.1%, the figure for Consumer Price Index inflation in September.

Tory critics have been threatening to rebel if Ms Truss backtracks on the commitment on welfare payments, which would hit claimants with real-terms cuts.

The Prime Minister declined to give a commitment to also increase benefits in line with inflation, while her spokesman said no decisions have been taken.

On Tuesday, the spokesman said he could not make “any commitments” on the pensions triple lock.

A day earlier, Mr Hunt raised the possibility that the triple lock could be scrapped, telling the Commons he would not make any commitments on “individual policy areas”.

But Ms Truss’s subsequent firm commitment to maintaining the policy appears to be designed to head off increased Conservative anger.

Tory MPs Maria Caulfield and Steve Double had already declared they would not vote to end the triple lock.

“Pensioners should not be paying the price for the cost-of-living crisis, whether caused by the war in Ukraine or mini-budgets,” Ms Caulfield tweeted.

Liberal Democrat work and pensions spokeswoman Wendy Chamberlain said the Government had been “dragged kicking and screaming by their own backbench’s backlash into doing the right thing”.

“This is a party in utter chaos, that can’t keep its own policies straight from day to day, let alone through the winter,” she added.

Campaigners had warned that failing to keep pensions in line with rising prices would be “devastating” and a “flagrant breach of trust”.

In response to the announcement of September’s inflation figures on Wednesday, Mr Hunt did not refer to the pensions promise but instead said help would be targeted at the most vulnerable.

The Tory manifesto in 2019 committed to the triple lock, which guarantees the state pension will increase in line with the highest figure of average earnings, inflation or 2.5%.

Mr Hunt said: “I understand that families across the country are struggling with rising prices and higher energy bills.

“This Government will prioritise help for the most vulnerable while delivering wider economic stability and driving long-term growth that will help everyone.”

The triple lock had been temporarily suspended for 2022-23 because earnings soared as people returned to work from furlough and coronavirus restrictions, but it was expected to be restored before inflation soared.


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Oct 19, 2022 12:26 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
Nothing is guaranteed as people won't get Pension increases until April next year and a lot could happen in that time. Truss is clutching at straws to save her own neck.

It's wishful thinking to assume the economy will settle by the time this decision is made. Frankly speaking the Government need to look at it's outgoings overseas and also the refuge crisis and start to put the U.K. and it's own people first.

J.M.O of course.
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Oct 19, 2022 12:27 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And to think that the parents of today's elderly stomached every privation to give them an orange, the nerve. Give us back the old old people we can't take the strain of the disgusting new old people.
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Oct 19, 2022 12:30 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
jagtom
jagtomjagtomocean city, Devon, England UK138 Threads 1 Polls 1,125 Posts
Tiger_Moth: Nothing is guaranteed as people won't get Pension increases until April next year and a lot could happen in that time. Truss is clutching at straws to save her own neck.

It's wishful thinking to assume the economy will settle by the time this decision is made. Frankly speaking the Government need to look at it's outgoings overseas and also the refuge crisis and start to put the U.K. and it's own people first.

J.M.O of course.
Tiger_Moth: Nothing is guaranteed as people won't get Pension increases until April next year and a lot could happen in that time. Truss is clutching at straws to save her own neck.

It's wishful thinking to assume the economy will settle by the time this decision is made. Frankly speaking the Government need to look at it's outgoings overseas and also the refuge crisis and start to put the U.K. and it's own people first.

J.M.O of course.
Let's hope that your pension is ok then, TG. maybe you will be the only whose lock was broken, rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 19, 2022 12:34 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
jagtom
jagtomjagtomocean city, Devon, England UK138 Threads 1 Polls 1,125 Posts
ChesneyChrist: And to think that the parents of today's elderly stomached every privation to give them an orange, the nerve. Give us back the old old people we can't take the strain of the disgusting new old people.
Same old same same old, old people bashingrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 19, 2022 12:39 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
jagtom: Let's hope that your pension is ok then, TG. maybe you will be the only whose lock was broken,
Got to wait a few more years before I can claim a pension.sigh


They may have cancelled them by then .grin
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Oct 19, 2022 12:41 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
jagtom
jagtomjagtomocean city, Devon, England UK138 Threads 1 Polls 1,125 Posts
Tiger_Moth: Got to wait a few more years before I can claim a pension.


They may have cancelled them by then .
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Oct 19, 2022 12:42 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
Not just on my undies then
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Oct 19, 2022 12:47 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
I mean we already shut the whole of society down because of the thoughtless beneficence towards old codgers. Why don't you think you have to pay for anything? Who taught you this?
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Oct 19, 2022 12:52 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
jagtom
jagtomjagtomocean city, Devon, England UK138 Threads 1 Polls 1,125 Posts
ChesneyChrist: I mean we already shut the whole of society down because of the thoughtless beneficence towards old codgers. Why don't you think you have to pay for anything? Who taught you this?
So mow everythings my fault moping
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Oct 19, 2022 12:59 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
ChesneyChrist: I mean we already shut the whole of society down because of the thoughtless beneficence towards old codgers. Why don't you think you have to pay for anything? Who taught you this?
I never class my parents as" old codgers" I'm where I am now because of their hard work.

Pensions are not a benefit ,they have been paid for over years of hard slog for some.scold
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Oct 19, 2022 1:45 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
jagtom
jagtomjagtomocean city, Devon, England UK138 Threads 1 Polls 1,125 Posts
ECONOMY Inflation
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Ms Truss faced a fresh wave of anger after No 10 said the policy was under review and her new Chancellor failed to commit to it as he seeks to plug a multibillion-pound black hole.

But she told Prime Minister’s Questions: “We’ve been clear in our manifesto that we will maintain the triple lock and I’m completely committed to it – so is the Chancellor.”
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On Twitter later, she said “protecting the triple lock” will “ensure pensioners get the most generous support”.

Downing Street said the decision was taken “jointly” by Ms Truss and Mr Hunt on Wednesday morning ahead of her appearance at the despatch box.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said it reflects the “unique position” of pensioners who are unable to increase their income through work.

“She and the Chancellor have discussed and agreed the position the Prime Minister set out this morning,” the spokesman said.

However, Ms Truss continues to face a rebellion on another front after she refused to give the same commitment to increasing benefits in line with inflation.

Tory John Baron urged her to show “compassion in politics” by maintaining the inflation link.

Ms Truss said: “We will always work to protect the most vulnerable”, but stopped short of using the same firm language she reserved for pensions.

Existing policy dictates that, from April next year, the state pension and benefits should increase by 10.1%, the figure for Consumer Price Index inflation in September.

Tory critics have been threatening to rebel if Ms Truss backtracks on the commitment on welfare payments, which would hit claimants with real-terms cuts.

The Prime Minister declined to give a commitment to also increase benefits in line with inflation, while her spokesman said no decisions have been taken.

On Tuesday, the spokesman said he could not make “any commitments” on the pensions triple lock.

A day earlier, Mr Hunt raised the possibility that the triple lock could be scrapped, telling the Commons he would not make any commitments on “individual policy areas”.

But Ms Truss’s subsequent firm commitment to maintaining the policy appears to be designed to head off increased Conservative anger.

Tory MPs Maria Caulfield and Steve Double had already declared they would not vote to end the triple lock.

“Pensioners should not be paying the price for the cost-of-living crisis, whether caused by the war in Ukraine or mini-budgets,” Ms Caulfield tweeted.

Liberal Democrat work and pensions spokeswoman Wendy Chamberlain said the Government had been “dragged kicking and screaming by their own backbench’s backlash into doing the right thing”.

“This is a party in utter chaos, that can’t keep its own policies straight from day to day, let alone through the winter,” she added.

Campaigners had warned that failing to keep pensions in line with rising prices would be “devastating” and a “flagrant breach of trust”.

In response to the announcement of September’s inflation figures on Wednesday, Mr Hunt did not refer to the pensions promise but instead said help would be targeted at the most vulnerable.

The Tory manifesto in 2019 committed to the triple lock, which guarantees the state pension will increase in line with the highest figure of average earnings, inflation or 2.5%.

Mr Hunt said: “I understand that families across the country are struggling with rising prices and higher energy bills.

“This Government will prioritise help for the most vulnerable while delivering wider economic stability and driving long-term growth that will help everyone.”

The triple lock had been temporarily suspended for 2022-23 because earnings soared as people returned to work from furlough and coronavirus restrictions, but it was expected to be restored before inflation soared.
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Oct 19, 2022 4:12 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
I've just been listening to the radio.

It seems like they just stopped short of a food fight in parliament today.

Truss's manifesto might be a moot point within hours.
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Oct 19, 2022 6:28 PM CST Triple Lock Remains
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
Tiger_Moth: Nothing is guaranteed as people won't get Pension increases until April next year and a lot could happen in that time. Truss is clutching at straws to save her own neck.

It's wishful thinking to assume the economy will settle by the time this decision is made. Frankly speaking the Government need to look at it's outgoings overseas and also the refuge crisis and start to put the U.K. and it's own people first.

J.M.O of course.
I totally agree. Who knows what our Government is going to do "next" only to make themselves another laughing stock of themselvesrolling on the floor laughing

A friend of mine started to claim his State Pension at the age of 58 as you could take a reduced pension way back then. He's now 82 so he's done quite well out of it, They don't do that now. Your State Pension is NOT a benefit, it goes off how much you've paid into the system over your working years. I only know this as I actually qualified for my State Pension this year at the grand old age of 66 after paying into the system for 35 years but had to wait until I was 66 to claim it
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