Do you want me to be happy? (21)
pedro27: Do you want me to be happy?
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It's not my right to want anything for you Pedro. 888
It's for you to decide who you want to be and what you want for yourself. And then I would wish for you to get the support and guidance (and patience and perseverance) you need in order for you to acheive it.
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pedro27: Do you want me to be happy?
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That's a straightforward enough question.888
Yes, I do.
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pedro27: Do you want me to be happy?
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I do, also. You're not going to get a buzz out of murdering anyone, are you?888
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ChesneyChrist: I do, also. You're not going to get a buzz out of murdering anyone, are you?
I reckon you wouldn't because you march to the beat of your own drum. Most people would do a murder for the community atmosphere, killing that yid is a job well done but I don't see that in you.------ This thread is Archived ------
Selenite: It's not my right to want anything for you Pedro.
It's for you to decide who you want to be and what you want for yourself. And then I would wish for you to get the support and guidance (and patience and perseverance) you need in order for you to acheive it.
I want everyone to be happy It's for you to decide who you want to be and what you want for yourself. And then I would wish for you to get the support and guidance (and patience and perseverance) you need in order for you to acheive it.
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pedro27: I want everyone to be happy
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I think mt ost people would agree with your sentiment, Pedroalways
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pedro27: I want everyone to be happy
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Ok Pedro ... define happiness then... how do you see people being happy? What visions spring to mind as you think of everyone being happy? always
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jagtom: I think mt ost people would agree with your sentiment, Pedro
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Selenite: Ok Pedro ... define happiness then... how do you see people being happy? What visions spring to mind as you think of everyone being happy?
good will for others 
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Selenite: Ok Pedro ... define happiness then... how do you see people being happy? What visions spring to mind as you think of everyone being happy?
A small child chasing a butterfly...that's happy.------ This thread is Archived ------
Happiness is a choice.
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Yes I’d like you to be happy 
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Stan_147: Happiness is a choice.
If it were a choice, why would anyone ever choose not to be happy?Everyone wants to be happy, always, without exception.
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pedro27: good will for others
That doesn't really answer my questions... Reason I ask is because I used to have friend who used to say to me ''I just want you to be happy, then proceed to enumerate a list of things she wanted for me''. And it used to make me furious because she just listed the things that would make HER happy and projected them onto my life.
Same as when parents project their ''wishes for a happy life'' onto their children, meaning get a job they approve of, get married, have children, blah blah blah. Well their children might have a different idea of what being happy means.
Hence my questions to you ...
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bodleing2: A small child chasing a butterfly...that's happy.
My question to Pedro was about how hw defines happiness for others...A child chasing a butterfly is happiness for the child in that moment ... the child may be crying hyterically 2 minutes later because the butterfly got away... then what?
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Selenite: My question to Pedro was about how hw defines happiness for others...
A child chasing a butterfly is happiness for the child in that moment ... the child may be crying hyterically 2 minutes later because the butterfly got away... then what?
My example was to illustrate the point that happiness is fickle. We may well experience moments of happiness, but they are ephemeral and can neither be willed into or perpetuated by hope, to some degree happiness is out of our hands.A child chasing a butterfly is happiness for the child in that moment ... the child may be crying hyterically 2 minutes later because the butterfly got away... then what?
Jung noted that, the goal of life is not happiness but meaning.
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bodleing2: My example was to illustrate the point that happiness is fickle. We may well experience moments of happiness, but they are ephemeral and can neither be willed into or perpetuated by hope, to some degree happiness is out of our hands.
Jung noted that, the goal of life is not happiness but meaning.
Right! Now I get you! And yes I agree to a certain extend. We do have some control over what we choose to spend time 'dwelling on'... and we can discover how we can always find something to feel sorry for or always find something to feel grateful for. Depending on which we spend more time focussing on it will affect our 'state of happiness', raising or lowering our mood...Jung noted that, the goal of life is not happiness but meaning.
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Selenite: Right! Now I get you! And yes I agree to a certain extend. We do have some control over what we choose to spend time 'dwelling on'... and we can discover how we can always find something to feel sorry for or always find something to feel grateful for. Depending on which we spend more time focussing on it will affect our 'state of happiness', raising or lowering our mood...
Yep, but even those who choose to wallow in misery, deep down really want to be happy.....everyone does.------ This thread is Archived ------
bodleing2: Yep, but even those who choose to wallow in misery, deep down really want to be happy.....everyone does.
May be ...but some people seem to have made an art forme out of being miserable Victor Mildrew fashion... 
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