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Jan 3, 2023 7:53 PM CST organ donation
Decent_Love
Decent_LoveDecent_LovePrayagraj, Uttar Pradesh India411 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
Which organ would you like to donate after you die?
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Jan 3, 2023 11:46 PM CST organ donation
Ray650
Ray650Ray650South San Francisco, California USA20 Threads 2 Polls 284 Posts
Don’t donate, if an important person is in the same hospital they will rip it out and give to him moping
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Jan 4, 2023 3:06 AM CST organ donation
Decent_Love: Which organ would you like to donate after you die?
"Donate"?
You are NOT dead when they rip it out of you!
They need it fresh!
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Jan 4, 2023 3:20 AM CST organ donation
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Decent_Love: Which organ would you like to donate after you die?
Any so long as I'm actually dead before they scoop it out. I've had quite enough of live organ donation throughout the pandemic, lockdown was eerily close to shortening life for the young and healthy significantly to provide a slight extension to somebody else.
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Jan 4, 2023 3:57 AM CST organ donation
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Decent_Love: Which organ would you like to donate after you die?


None

Don't "donate" blood either.

What a racket under the guise of humanitarianism
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Jan 4, 2023 4:19 AM CST organ donation
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
I was going to get a potential donor list from people on CS. Then it occurred to me someone might need a brain. CS would not be a wise source for brain.. Not wise at all. help help help
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Jan 4, 2023 5:04 AM CST organ donation
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,446 Posts
I will donate my very tight Hoo Haa
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Jan 4, 2023 5:15 AM CST organ donation
Mercedes_00: I will donate my very tight Hoo Haa
.......i,ll take thatand use it as a money boxgrin laugh
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Jan 4, 2023 8:02 AM CST organ donation
raphael119: I was going to get a potential donor list from people on CS. Then it occurred to me someone might need a brain. CS would not be a wise source for brain.. Not wise at all.
AOC promised to donate her Brain to you!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 4, 2023 12:58 PM CST organ donation
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
Conrad73: AOC promised to donate her Brain to you!
laugh laugh
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Jan 4, 2023 1:12 PM CST organ donation
CossackCat: None

Don't "donate" blood either.

What a racket under the guise of humanitarianism
I take it you won't accept a blood transfusion under any circumstances then?
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Jan 4, 2023 5:58 PM CST organ donation
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Any so long as I'm actually dead before they scoop it out.
Whether death occurs when the heart, or brain activity stops, or for how long after is perhaps a moot point.

If you have reached that stage of no return, it's not like you're going to feel anything physical, or have any angst about your demise.
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Jan 4, 2023 6:30 PM CST organ donation
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Decent_Love: Which organ would you like to donate after you die?
I am glad to not be a donor. Had I been a donor when I was on my way out in an intensive care unit for 12 days I am not so sure I would be on this side of green today.
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Jan 4, 2023 6:40 PM CST organ donation
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
When I was dying from a burst appendix I kept worrying they might kill me and harvest my organs. They gave me there strongest pain killer to no avail.
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Jan 4, 2023 7:04 PM CST organ donation
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
raphael119: When I was dying from a burst appendix I kept worrying they might kill me and harvest my organs. They gave me there strongest pain killer to no avail.
I hear The Appendix is one of two organs we don’t need.
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Jan 5, 2023 2:25 AM CST organ donation
jac_the_gripper: Whether death occurs when the heart, or brain activity stops, or for how long after is perhaps a moot point.

If you have reached that stage of no return, it's not like you're going to feel anything physical, or have any angst about your demise.
you might want to consult with Doctors who preform that type of Surgery,and ask them why they use full Anesthesia in those cases!
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Jan 5, 2023 2:27 AM CST organ donation
Conrad73: you might want to consult with Doctors who preform perform that type of Surgery,and ask them why they use full Anesthesia in those cases!
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Jan 5, 2023 6:03 AM CST organ donation
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Conrad73: you might want to consult with Doctors who preform that type of Surgery,and ask them why they use full Anesthesia in those cases!
https://associationofanaesthetists-publications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2044.2000.055002105.x#:~:text=%E2%80%98Brainstem%20dead%20patients%20do%20not%20require%20analgesia%20or,as%20published%20in%20their%20booklet%20of%20June%201999.
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Jan 5, 2023 6:05 AM CST organ donation
I'll donate any useable organ, not like I'll need then when I die conversing
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Jan 5, 2023 6:43 AM CST organ donation
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
jac_the_gripper: https://associationofanaesthetists-publications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2044.2000.055002105.x#:~:text=%E2%80%98Brainstem%20dead%20patients%20do%20not%20require%20analgesia%20or,as%20published%20in%20their%20booklet%20of%20June%201999.
I'm so messing up the link, but there are papers explaining the use of anaesthesia when removing donor organs.

Brain death from which there is 100% certainty of no recovery doesn't exclude some autonomic function from spinal nerve activity. Anaesthesia and other medications are in part used for physical convenience (reflex muscle movements, blood spurting during surgery) and in part for psychological reasons: surgery just using muscle relaxants is counter-intuitive and uncomfortable for anaesthetists, blood spurting and reflex movements may be distressing for surgical teams and the use of anaesthesia increases confidence in the donor programme for members of the public. Anaesthesia is comforting for the living, but not necessary for the dead.

Having had a near death experience following the failure of anaesthesia, I stopped feeling anything when I saw the death lights, but before my heart stopped, or I had lost 'internal' consciousness. If you're in more pain than you can handle: 1. everything shuts down and you die; 2. you get flooded with endorphins which is very pleasant. In short, being sliced open while you're alive is short-lived even when you're fighting fit and fully conscious, never mind brain stem dead.

And if that's not enough, clearly anaesthetics don't always work anyway. My experience is not unique by any stretch of the imagination.
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