Women Dude or Dudette? ( Archived) (5)

Jan 20, 2023 4:19 PM CST Women Dude or Dudette?
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
I see a lot of other women call each other dude.
Preferences ladies?
head banger
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Jan 21, 2023 7:19 AM CST Women Dude or Dudette?
Packersbabe1
Packersbabe1Packersbabe1Green Bay, Wisconsin USA3 Threads 16,508 Posts
It's a figure of speech, doesn't mean they want
a woman, you got to get out morelaugh
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Jan 21, 2023 7:38 AM CST Women Dude or Dudette?
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
dude is kind of a guy thing and originally was a kind of show cowboy.
Like Dude ranches for the weekend pretend cowboys.
I'm just surprised it drifted into the female genre.
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Jan 21, 2023 8:40 AM CST Women Dude or Dudette?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
It probably originated in the states from the song Yanky Doodle Dandy. The British soldiers sang it at the end of the 18th century to mock the US soldiers, but by the end of the 19th century the US had taken it on as as patrotic anthem. I'm not sure about women using it though.
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Jan 21, 2023 9:23 AM CST Women Dude or Dudette?
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
Dude is American slang for an individual, typically male. From the 1870s to the 1960s, dude primarily meant a male person who dressed in an extremely fashionable manner (a dandy) or a conspicuous citified person who was visiting a rural location, a "city slicker". In the 1960s, dude evolved to mean any male person, a meaning that slipped into mainstream American slang in the 1970s. Current slang retains at least some use of all three of these common meanings.
The term "dude" may have derived from the 18th-century word "doodle", as in "Yankee Doodle Dandy".

In the popular press of the 1880s and 1890s, "dude" was a new word for "dandy"—an "extremely well-dressed male", a man who paid particular importance to his appearance. The café society and Bright Young Things of the late 1800s and early 1900s were populated with dudes. Young men of leisure vied to show off their wardrobes. The best known of this type is probably Evander Berry Wall, who was dubbed "King of the Dudes" in 1880s New York and maintained a reputation for sartorial splendor all his life. This meaning of the word, though rarely consciously known today, remains occasionally in some American slang, as in the phrase "all duded up" for getting dressed in fancy clothes.
The word was used to refer to American Easterners, specifically referring to a man with "store-bought clothes". The word was used by cowboys to unfavorably refer to the city dwellers.

A variation of this was a "well-dressed man who is unfamiliar with life outside a large city". In The Home and Farm Manual (1883), author Jonathan Periam used the term "dude" several times to denote an ill-bred and ignorant but ostentatious man from the city.[citation needed]

The implication of an individual who is unfamiliar with the demands of life outside of urban settings gave rise to the definition of dude as a "city slicker", or "an Easterner in the West". Thus "dude" was used to describe the wealthy men of the expansion of the United States during the 19th century by ranch-and-homestead-bound settlers of the American Old West. This use is reflected in the dude ranch, a guest ranch catering to urbanites seeking more rural experiences. Dude ranches began to appear in the American West in the early 20th century, for wealthy Easterners who came to experience the "cowboy life". The implicit contrast is with those persons accustomed to a given frontier, agricultural, mining, or other rural setting. This usage of "dude" was still in use in the 1950s in America, as a word for a tourist—of either gender—who attempts to dress like the local culture but fails. An inverse of these uses of "dude" would be the term "redneck," a contemporary American colloquialism referring to poor farmers and uneducated persons, which itself became pejorative, and is also still in use.

As the word gained popularity and reached the coasts of the U.S. and traveled between borders, variations of the slang began to pop up such as the female versions of dudette and dudines; however, they were short lived due to dude also gaining a neutral gender connotation and some linguists see the female versions as more artificial slang. The slang eventually had gradual decline in usage until the early to mid 20th century when other subcultures of the U.S. began using it more frequently while again deriving it from the type of dress and eventually using it as a descriptor for common male and sometimes female companions. Eventually, lower class schools with a greater mix of subcultures allowed the word to spread to almost all cultures and eventually up the class ladders to become common use in the U.S. By the late 20th to early 21st century, dude had gained the ability to be used in the form of expression, whether that be disappointment, excitement, or loving and it also widened to be able to refer to any general person no matter race, gender, or cult
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