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Mar 31, 2023 8:33 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
How does suffering make you a better person?


When you go through a lot of pain, you become more empathetic; you don't want others to go through what you've been through and you don't wish the pain you experienced upon anyone. It teaches you how to be kind and to never underestimate someone else's pain just because you haven't gone through it yourself.

000peace heart beating
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Mar 31, 2023 8:50 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Why suffering is the key to success?


Suffering isn't life treating you unfairly.

Suffering is you being prepared for something bigger than you are doing right now. You're being tested and refined. Your response in your moments of suffering and pain define the measure of your greatness. You can give up and make excuses
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Mar 31, 2023 9:03 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
"It is good to face challenges in your youth. He who has never suffered will not sufficiently temper his character."

Yamamoto Tsunetomo
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Mar 31, 2023 9:08 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
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Mar 31, 2023 9:26 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
bodleing2: "It is good to face challenges in your youth. He who has never suffered will not sufficiently temper his character."

Yamamoto Tsunetomo
My sufferings mean a lot to me

I read the pain of suffering can make one ‘’ GREAT’’

-Pedro the great…sounds good 2 me


cheers
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Mar 31, 2023 6:52 PM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
pedro27: How does suffering make you a better person?


When you go through a lot of pain, you become more empathetic; you don't want others to go through what you've been through and you don't wish the pain you experienced upon anyone. It teaches you how to be kind and to never underestimate someone else's pain just because you haven't gone through it yourself.

000
It doesn't make you a better person Pedro. I would never wish upon anyone what I'm going to have to go through in the next few months but millions of people go through the "treatment" every day.

This is a social media site and people "take" what you have said in the past. teddybear
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Mar 31, 2023 7:37 PM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Friendship4ever
Friendship4everFriendship4everSan Bernardino, California USA2 Threads 1,466 Posts
suffering is a part of life.
It change ones outlook on life.
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Mar 31, 2023 7:49 PM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Miss_Cellaneous
Miss_CellaneousMiss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Posts
pedro27: How does suffering make you a better person?


When you go through a lot of pain, you become more empathetic; you don't want others to go through what you've been through and you don't wish the pain you experienced upon anyone. It teaches you how to be kind and to never underestimate someone else's pain just because you haven't gone through it yourself.

000
Maybe you should tell us? As you seem to know the answers? dunno confused It really is a shame that this site has gone down the hill. Luckily some of us have made friends outside of this site and so I really don't care what I say in here because you will always get the dickheads that think they're funny rolling on the floor laughing I was diagnosed with throat cancer last week when I saw the ENT specialist having had the Biopsy on 8th March. I think that I'm one of the lucky one's,still being here. Looking at many people that didn't have that chance. Hence Rik Mayall, and most recently Paul O'Grady amongst many others. I myself feel very angry, wondering why I've got throat cancer. I suffered from Basal Cell Cancer on both of my legs in 2021. You are not "alone" I won't say anything else as it could be used on this site hug
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Apr 1, 2023 2:44 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Miss_Cellaneous: Maybe you should tell us? As you seem to know the answers? It really is a shame that this site has gone down the hill. Luckily some of us have made friends outside of this site and so I really don't care what I say in here because you will always get the dickheads that think they're funny I was diagnosed with throat cancer last week when I saw the ENT specialist having had the Biopsy on 8th March. I think that I'm one of the lucky one's,still being here. Looking at many people that didn't have that chance. Hence Rik Mayall, and most recently Paul O'Grady amongst many others. I myself feel very angry, wondering why I've got throat cancer. I suffered from Basal Cell Cancer on both of my legs in 2021. You are not "alone" I won't say anything else as it could be used on this site
I hope you will overcome the throat cancer. Best of luckhug
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Apr 1, 2023 3:28 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Happygolucky4u
Happygolucky4uHappygolucky4uTreasure Coast, Florida USA25 Threads 4 Polls 6,241 Posts
Miss_Cellaneous: Maybe you should tell us? As you seem to know the answers? It really is a shame that this site has gone down the hill. Luckily some of us have made friends outside of this site and so I really don't care what I say in here because you will always get the dickheads that think they're funny I was diagnosed with throat cancer last week when I saw the ENT specialist having had the Biopsy on 8th March. I think that I'm one of the lucky one's,still being here. Looking at many people that didn't have that chance. Hence Rik Mayall, and most recently Paul O'Grady amongst many others. I myself feel very angry, wondering why I've got throat cancer. I suffered from Basal Cell Cancer on both of my legs in 2021. You are not "alone" I won't say anything else as it could be used on this site
I am so sorry to read this. I don't know if you believe and I know the G word on this site brings much unsettlement. I am not asking for you or anyone else to believe. But I believe and am going to say a prayer for you for a quick and complete healing. May many positive vibes be sent your way rose
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Apr 1, 2023 3:32 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Happygolucky4u
Happygolucky4uHappygolucky4uTreasure Coast, Florida USA25 Threads 4 Polls 6,241 Posts
pedro27: How does suffering make you a better person?


When you go through a lot of pain, you become more empathetic; you don't want others to go through what you've been through and you don't wish the pain you experienced upon anyone. It teaches you how to be kind and to never underestimate someone else's pain just because you haven't gone through it yourself.

000
Sadly in the real world it does not always work that way. Some become bitter, angry etc. it depends on the person and how they look at the pain that has now become a part of their life. Some become angry to then change after a time and a moment to reflect.
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Apr 1, 2023 3:52 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
Miss_Cellaneous: Maybe you should tell us? As you seem to know the answers? It really is a shame that this site has gone down the hill. Luckily some of us have made friends outside of this site and so I really don't care what I say in here because you will always get the dickheads that think they're funny I was diagnosed with throat cancer last week when I saw the ENT specialist having had the Biopsy on 8th March. I think that I'm one of the lucky one's,still being here. Looking at many people that didn't have that chance. Hence Rik Mayall, and most recently Paul O'Grady amongst many others. I myself feel very angry, wondering why I've got throat cancer. I suffered from Basal Cell Cancer on both of my legs in 2021. You are not "alone" I won't say anything else as it could be used on this site
I completely agree with you Miss.

I join you in your cancer battle as I underwent invasive melanoma surgery in 2020 and attended a skin cancer clinic for 3 monthly skin checks for twelve months afterwards, which was then reduced to six monthly checks.
My last one revealed a concerning mole which I had excised on Wednesday; it's a little uncomfortable at present but I'm feeling optimistic that pathology results will show a good result.

I personally find Pedro's threads a little flippant, probably drawing from internet searches while under the influence of alcohol rather than life experience.

While he has shared his mental health journey on here, which is to be applauded, I often find his threads self indulgent and self pitying.

Wishing you all the very best for your own journey Miss and send you hugs and positivity

hug
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Apr 1, 2023 4:13 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Suffering as such is not a value; only man’s fight against suffering, is. If you choose to help a man who suffers, do it only on the ground of his virtues, of his fight to recover, of his rational record, or of the fact that he suffers unjustly; then your action is still a trade, and his virtue is the payment for your help. But to help a man who has no virtues, to help him on the ground of his suffering as such, to accept his faults, his need, as a claim—is to accept the mortgage of a zero on your values.

For the New Intellectual

Galt’s Speech,

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Apr 1, 2023 4:17 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
It's a double edged sword as just as a hard life can give endurance it can also have people murder those who never did a days work in their life, go hunting the untermensch woe to the bottom 20% of the gene pool.
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Apr 1, 2023 4:45 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
I would not bank on the mercy of those who feel themselves to be unlucky. If you are a scumbag then you better hope that whoever deals with you regards themselves as being lucky.

The all important question is, do you feel lucky? But lucky is not quite the same thing as privilege, a person can be privileged their whole life and feel hard done by. And the opposite can be the case. To be treated alright can feel like Christmas to those who have beared the heaviest burdens.
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Apr 1, 2023 5:07 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,446 Posts
Miss_Cellaneous: Maybe you should tell us? As you seem to know the answers? It really is a shame that this site has gone down the hill. Luckily some of us have made friends outside of this site and so I really don't care what I say in here because you will always get the dickheads that think they're funny I was diagnosed with throat cancer last week when I saw the ENT specialist having had the Biopsy on 8th March. I think that I'm one of the lucky one's,still being here. Looking at many people that didn't have that chance. Hence Rik Mayall, and most recently Paul O'Grady amongst many others. I myself feel very angry, wondering why I've got throat cancer. I suffered from Basal Cell Cancer on both of my legs in 2021. You are not "alone" I won't say anything else as it could be used on this site
I'm so sorry Miss C..I will keep you in my thoughts as I send positive healthy thoughts your way hug

You've got this in the bag Miss C thumbs up bouquet
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Apr 1, 2023 5:09 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,446 Posts
serene56: I completely agree with you Miss.

I join you in your cancer battle as I underwent invasive melanoma surgery in 2020 and attended a skin cancer clinic for 3 monthly skin checks for twelve months afterwards, which was then reduced to six monthly checks.
My last one revealed a concerning mole which I had excised on Wednesday; it's a little uncomfortable at present but I'm feeling optimistic that pathology results will show a good result.

I personally find Pedro's threads a little flippant, probably drawing from internet searches while under the influence of alcohol rather than life experience.

While he has shared his mental health journey on here, which is to be applauded, I often find his threads self indulgent and self pitying.

Wishing you all the very best for your own journey Miss and send you hugs and positivity
I shall also have you in my thoughts Serene sending positive healthy thoughts your way hug

You too will have this in the bag thumbs up
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Apr 1, 2023 5:21 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And for this reason those born in the 1940s were kings amongst men. Life's been very good to them but not the first ten years of that life and that held them in good stead to appreciate life. No expectations meet the new reality of a world moving into sunlit uplands.

Generation zergling are the opposite. To have been that spoilt up until about ten for a future that is nothing to shout about. To encounter everything fortunate about life early on but face a future where the opposite is the case. Great expectations meet the new reality of a dying western world.
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Apr 1, 2023 6:53 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
The people born in the 1940s come at life like a people who survived cancer as youths.

Youth today is/was not at all prepared for pandemics and wars, recessions and bankruptcy and the horrors of an aging population attempting to do an industrial revolution where nobody knows what the hell they are doing it's so complex. To go from such privilege to the abyss of a new dark age that is industrially revolting against the concept of a society where people know what they're doing. What's happening now is far worse than lead poisoning, we'll fondly remember the days of lead poisoning once we all need new eyeballs and a finger transplant thanks to grandad's skynet. I have sympathy for the luddites in this new century where the educated may as well be a voodoo witch doctor. The educated are not rationally capable of comprehension of the world and how it works, no it's a secular moral education about trans where presumably the only intelligence will be artificial intelligence. And what do we then? Let the machine takeover or keep our backward and incompetent authorities who pretend to understand the things they know nothing about? Neither option is attractive but there will come serious thoughts of putting the machine in charge. There has to be something we could respect as a wise elder, some authority you can trust to know what it's talking about when no human being actually does. Today's authorities are just people walking into rooms and saying things, a great swizzle to provide work.
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Apr 1, 2023 7:14 AM CST How does suffering make you a better person?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: The people born in the 1940s come at life like a people who survived cancer as youths.

Youth today is/was not at all prepared for pandemics and wars, recessions and bankruptcy and the horrors of an aging population attempting to do an industrial revolution where nobody knows what the hell they are doing it's so complex. To go from such privilege to the abyss of a new dark age that is industrially revolting against the concept of a society where people know what they're doing. What's happening now is far worse than lead poisoning, we'll fondly remember the days of lead poisoning once we all need new eyeballs and a finger transplant thanks to grandad's skynet. I have sympathy for the luddites in this new century where the educated may as well be a voodoo witch doctor. The educated are not rationally capable of comprehension of the world and how it works, no it's a secular moral education about trans where presumably the only intelligence will be artificial intelligence. And what do we then? Let the machine takeover or keep our backward and incompetent authorities who pretend to understand the things they know nothing about? Neither option is attractive but there will come serious thoughts of putting the machine in charge. There has to be something we could respect as a wise elder, some authority you can trust to know what it's talking about when no human being actually does. Today's authorities are just people walking into rooms and saying things, a great swizzle to provide work.
You can see that in Elon Musk the acknowledgement of just how little humanity understands about this new technology.

But we are up against Bill Gates and the old world of having to buy Microsoft's terrible products because they came by default. And the reason they came by default is because Microsoft is the government's secret police. Not because Microsoft is any good. And yet we all grew up with Microsoft for years and years the done thing was Microsoft and it was a scam, a decades long scam. And that was then. That was when technology was relatively simple and easy to understand and it still had 80% of the general public pants down.
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