Who's unfortunate? I OR them? ( Archived) (11)

Sep 13, 2007 1:57 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
zRana
zRanazRanaSilver Spring, Maryland USA11 Threads 77 Posts
Dear Readers from all nations!

Let me create a firm base which may keep you stand tall against bias, hate, mis-understanding and al the bad feelings, nothing to offend, just a friendly topic, not to criticize seriously but, my view point towards something hurting to me. Again, nothing to do with religion but since it’s a pure social concept, so just for reference may it involve religion and various societies.

I‘m just an ordinary child like any other kid on earth and I was born free of any religion, understanding of life………….Meaning by, I was a blank inside and outside.

According to Muslims, the entity who loves a person the most after the God is MOTHER…and then third one is FATHER, (Means Parents.). It is also said by Islam, “heaven lies under the feet of your mother.” Which means, if your mother is truly satisfied with your deeds, you are good to her and she is happy with you, then nothing can stop you from heaven in after-life. Till here, it was a religious point of view. But I know its not quite convincing for the people who have nothing to do with religion.

But at least we are social so lets see the social point of view below. The same way as suppose, if one person has unconditionally done a favor for the other, it’s the moral responsibility of the other to return the favor in an equal or ideally, in a better way, right?

…………right on this point where I’m thinking to write the most beautiful words for “Parents” to thank them from the core of my heart…but to be honest, I’m halted here…its been quite a while I’m sitting still, my hands are on keyboard but my mind seems to has stopped working…I’m struggling to find appropriate words really………..I’m speechless.

But since I have to complete my initial writing under this thread so I’ll use the best of my imagination at the moment.

I love my parents are want to be with them for my whole life…I cant stand seeing them living away from me. Since I cant commit suicide so I could not go buried with them in their graves. May I’m living this day to tell you what I’m thinking….?

In Asia, I believe even in next 1000 years, the concept of an “old house” would only be an unwanted nightmare for both, the kids and parents. it’s the pull of your blood I believe.

My parents worked through days and nights, years and decades to bring me up to a point where I could pay back the favor just by living with them happily and keep them happy, take care of them, love them…and ideally, thank them at times for their initiative.

I was just a 6-7 years old baby, very innocent and stranger to anything like deep thinking, worry, etc…but tell you one thing very interesting, without any thinking or knowledge or any guidance, when my mom first asked me what would I do when grown up…….I, out of no where, said these words in broken way…”I‘ll take of you maaa…”…The next moment when my mom realized what on earth did I say…she embraced me too tight and I was told, she cried just too much…….but then, I think of this OLD HOUSE concept, how amazing, isn’t it?

How can we compare the concept, and then its acceptance, and then it becoming a reality …the OLD HOUSES…where many unfortunate parents ( YES, Unfortunate ) are just completing rest of the days of their life?…away from their beloved children who now are well in position to earn, understand, take care, and above all, afford by all means in reality…WHY? They just DON’T FIT to live with?

I get hurt to read from various people, when asked about their biggest dream…they happily say ( Not intending to offend anyone please ) “To get out of my parents house…to live life”……To live my life?…I mean, did you hear what I just heard?

I’ve got 1000s of things to add more to this post, but since its getting too long and I think I made my point to start a healthy and ideally, a fruitful discussion.

Please guys, I would love you all to add as much as possible…At least I expect it.
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Sep 13, 2007 2:02 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
HeidiTexas
HeidiTexasHeidiTexasHouston, USA5 Threads 131 Posts
if one person has unconditionally done a favor for the other, it’s the moral responsibility of the other to return the favor in an equal or ideally, in a better way, right?

Wrong...if the other person is obligated based on the act of the first....it wasn't unconditional...
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Sep 13, 2007 2:07 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
interesting philosophical dilemma!
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Sep 13, 2007 2:09 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
Silverstar
SilverstarSilverstarColumbia, Tennessee USA7 Threads 112 Posts
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Sep 13, 2007 7:12 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
sassie431
sassie431sassie431southern, California USA45 Threads 500 Posts
Very beautiful words, I told my mother when I was 12 that I would always care for her... and I am ... I at times get a bit irritated but I believe that everyone would.


It would be better to return the favor, but not because you are obligated to do so.... It was done unconditionally without expecting anything in return. This is the way parents love their children, Unconditionally without expecting anything in return.

Most children that respect their moms and dads would help in some way.

Honor your mother and father......



I get hurt to read from various people, when asked about their biggest dream…they happily say ( Not intending to offend anyone please ) “To get out of my parents house…to live life”……To live my life?…I mean, did you hear what I just heard?



This is the way of life... it is very normal to leave your parents and make a home for you... To leave does not mean to not help... It means to grow to become the person you are supposed to be. I can use some scriptures out of the Bible, but I won't.

Mary


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Sep 13, 2007 7:21 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Someone could do you a favor unconditionally but the feeling to return that favor doesn't necessarily negate the unconditionality of the favor. The favor wasn't done under the expectation of the return favor but you are still free do return it or not.
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Sep 13, 2007 7:29 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
Icekrystal24
Icekrystal24Icekrystal24Glasgow, USA74 Threads 1,690 Posts
I was rather harsh on you on the other thread, although I stand firm on my comments there, but this time, I'll be a bit more tactful with my response.

Because our cultures differ on so many levels, it is not always easy to see your way of life compared to my way of life.

I do not find it an obligation to care for my parents as they get old....I call it an honor.


A very well written thread....and thank you for sharing your thoughts and views.
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Sep 14, 2007 2:48 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
zRana
zRanazRanaSilver Spring, Maryland USA11 Threads 77 Posts
Dear Icekrystal24,

Before joining dating site and especially, open forum, I actually prepared myself mentally that the kind of sharing person I am, I wont be staying our of saying a lot about me and honestly and there are I think more than 6 billion people out there, means 6 billion different thoughts, comments and response types. So Do I have the capacity to absorb any comments by FEW OF THEM?

When I felt confident enough, I joined it at once.
So now, I feel like having bigger heart and broader mind.

From the same mind, I welcome and heartedly thank everyone sharing their thoughts.

As for reply to a post above, to be honest, there is really no obligation to return the favor, I call it unconditional because parents don’t even know if you’re going to survive beyond 15 years of age…if you’ll ever earn a penny, if you’ll ever be ready to stand on your own feet. May be the child due to a disability becomes a hard liability on the parents but again, parents never abandon their beloved child. And they really don’t expect from but only hope that this kid may become successful and happy in life.

Look at their innocent friends, when we put them in old houses, I believe many of them are still kind and loving to their kids…At least if not the most, I’m really a big supporter of staying together. But then, everyone is free to choose.

I also know sometimes parents impose decisions, they tend to sometimes stop you for doing anything for apparently nothing. I remember when my mom always used to force me to sleep after coming back from school but I always wanted to play. When I used to refuse, she sometimes used to beat me up using hands and even stick, I used to cry and run away….LOL…I remember many occasions when she beat me up for many reasons…sometimes I was , but sometimes I wasn’t.

But to be very honest, if you can feel, that’s not even comparable to the pain she took while remaining awake the whole night when I was sick, her ONE NIGHT pain taking thing just FOR ME is more valuable than my whole life’s punishment with stick. She has the right.

Now, I do also realize that I could be one in a million to love and honor my Parents to that extreme level and NOT EVERYONE may have the same frequency, coz again, 6 billion different people, J….but at least parental love standards are very similar everywhere, regarding it they are humans or animals… Isn’t it?

A mother defends her kids from dangers and discomforts, the same way as in America, EU, Asia, Africa and even Antarctica, am I right?

Its really an amazing phenomenon guys, the relation of child to his/her parents being given away under simple and ordinary circumstances…feeling speechless to be honest!
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Sep 17, 2007 11:16 AM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
zRana
zRanazRanaSilver Spring, Maryland USA11 Threads 77 Posts
I waited for days that someone would post more on this subject but may be no one is interested anymore?

Anyone?
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Sep 17, 2007 12:02 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
Shinedown7593
Shinedown7593Shinedown7593Roseville, USA47 Threads 667 Posts
I was really touched by your post and I just want to say, I have done just that. You see, after the birth of my son, my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer. Thye caught early though and everything looked very positive. Che went through some chemo and had her breast removed. She was as good as new.

Then a year ago christmas, it came back in her bones. She had a really hard struggle. I wanted to help then but couldnt because I had a family of my own.

My sons mom and I broke up a year ago and I moved home for a little while. At this time, my mom was going better and they7 had the cancer controlled. Then right before I was going to move out again, it started to get really bad and I could not just leave. Had I done so, my dad would lose his job and they would lost everything they worked so hard for, the past 34 years. Their house, their cabin they were going to move to once my dad retired, their medical insurance, etc.

I decided to quit working and take care of my mom full time. It was a really hard 8 months and it was so sad seeing the pain and watching her lose her mind. It really took a toll on me but I had to stay strong. I couldnt work and I could not afford to drive. My mom was my life and I did everything possible to take care of her.

My mom passed in april and I took it very hard. It feels so good though that I was able to make her as comfortable as possible right until the end. Now i still cant work and drive because I cant find anything in the area and the jobs I can get would require a car which is sitting in the driveway broke down and uninsured. I just hope to find something soon so I can help my dad now. This house is so close to forclosure, it is not even funny and he has no help. I just hope I can get back on my feet in time.

Now this whole thing has made me pretty much undateable and has left me an emotional wreck. People in my area who read my profile do not give it a second glance because a job, car and house are their most important factors when looking for a partner. It does not matter why you do not have these things for the moment, it just matters that you dont. The ones who have gave me a chance have never stuck around long enough to see me for who I really am. I have learned to accept that and now realize that the only woman I could ever end up with would have to be as caring as I am. Somebody who understands that even strong people can get really weak.

I love my family and would not have done it any other way. I may be alone and depressed but i would never have it any other way. I would always be there for my family no matter what it does to me.
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Sep 17, 2007 1:26 PM CST Who's unfortunate? I OR them?
zRana
zRanazRanaSilver Spring, Maryland USA11 Threads 77 Posts
Dear Shine,

I read each word of your post and my belief that its worth caring for parents got more strength, much more.

Its a reality that you lost a lot during your dedication towards your parents and still, you may loose more but, I'm telling you from the core of my heart that sooner or later, you'll get your reward, your mother did not go away without praying for you, trust me.

Utilize your firm speech, self-confidence and skills to fight this temporary darkness around you, DO NOT depend on anyone ordinary for your help (many people wont understand your deep feelings), reach out the opportunities with the belief that you have already paid the price for a good gift. Now you're rightful.

The thing is, our elders have said it right that hardwork never goes vain and you have done yours.

Why do I believe it so much? because I have experienced it in my life, we dedicated our most for the care taking of our parents and now, after just few years of hardship, things are falling the way we imagine / wish. We believe its the gift we worked for. I'm moving towards good life with deep satisfaction that the people who brought me into this world, they were sent back happily.

Man! mother nature plans it better for us, and it supports goodness more than we even think.

You and I are more than satisfied by doing our best for our parents. I pray your tough time ends sooner than the later.

You made me much happier and I'm thankful.
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