No child left behind??? (22)
I'm not a teacher but I work in a school setting so this is just my opinion... in theory and on paper...its an excellent idea but in reality it isnt working...
I figure if teacher raises are based on their performance...that might have a better impact on student learning.
Its sad to say that out of the 41 kids at my school, 38 of them are reading at a grade level that is alot lower than theirs... I'm tawlking high school kids reading on a 4th or 5th and some even 2nd and 3rd grade level....some one needs to be held accountable for it.... how do I know these figures...I give testing to every one of these kids every 90 days...and reading is the first area tested....
tie that to a teachers raise and we'll see how fast they go up...like I said....JMO...
I figure if teacher raises are based on their performance...that might have a better impact on student learning.
Its sad to say that out of the 41 kids at my school, 38 of them are reading at a grade level that is alot lower than theirs... I'm tawlking high school kids reading on a 4th or 5th and some even 2nd and 3rd grade level....some one needs to be held accountable for it.... how do I know these figures...I give testing to every one of these kids every 90 days...and reading is the first area tested....
tie that to a teachers raise and we'll see how fast they go up...like I said....JMO...
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Thanks for the insight, and reply. I am curious as I am/was going to college for secondary education...
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Well the No child thing in reality takes up too much of a teachers time with paperwork and stuff like that... thats why it doesnt work...the kids learning is adversly affected...and thats not a good thing... ive seen some really poor teachers in my life...its an honorable profession certainly...I just hope if you become a teacher...you teach as if it were your child sitting in your classroom...good luck to you and btw...
thank you for your service....
thank you for your service....
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Is there any truth, in that the teachers are spending more time with children that can't keep up in class, and it disrupts the learning of the other children in the class???
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its not working. i just graduated hs in june and my little brother that was in the 2ed grade at the time had a higher reading level than most of my graduating class. its sad. i had a college juniors reading level at the age of 10 and here is an 8 yr old with a regular reading level that was higher than 400 18yr olds. i was thought to have a.d.d. when i was younger b/c i rarely paid attention to the teacher. later i found out that i didnt pay attention b/c i was bored with the class. i knew how to do what they were doing and got tired of doing it after the 3rd week. they need to find a way to test kids on fast learning and slow learning. those that are fast learners are put in fast pased classes and those that are slow learners put in slow pased class. jmo
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Yes it is true...sad but true....and theyre also spending more time correcting mis behaving kids which also takes away from the learning process of others...
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Again...another insightful and helpful response...Thanks.
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You may have heard of the parallel program: No Wealthy Conservative Left Behind? 
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I`m in this program. But I`m afraid I`m getting left behind anyway.
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Maybe that $5000 Hillary wants to give to newborns and that $1000 she wants to give to every american to start an IRA would be better spent on the chilrun. 
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I was a newborn once ...I want my five grand!!!
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As i see it .... the first thing needs to be done .... smaller classes not 30-40 kids stuffed in one room ...there is no way a teacher will have any abilities to spend enough time with every each of one.
Though i do remember ... when i was at school ( USSR) we had no more then 35 kids in a class ...6 days of school and 5 different ( at least) subjects every day. Till the end of first grade ( we didn't have preschool grade) ......... 34 0f 35 had an excelent reading skills.
Maybe you need to send your minister of edication to Europe (especially to Russia) to learn something
Though i do remember ... when i was at school ( USSR) we had no more then 35 kids in a class ...6 days of school and 5 different ( at least) subjects every day. Till the end of first grade ( we didn't have preschool grade) ......... 34 0f 35 had an excelent reading skills.
Maybe you need to send your minister of edication to Europe (especially to Russia) to learn something
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I and probably many parents would like to see YEAR ROUND school...Yeh? Nay? 
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I don't think the 'No child left behind' rule works for all of the same reasons above. I do like the year round school though. I also find it silly that all the children get to play on the teams and that they have done away with so many of the fun games that were played when i was in school. Dodgeball anyone? 'Experts' say that our children are now more obese then they have ever been but they want to take away the games that kids actually WANT to play. How is that for 'expert' parenting? Whats a few bruises to a kid? I bet if you asked a school whether they would rather have less bruises or be able to play dodgeball, i think they majority would pick dodgeball. All because some pansy parent with a pansy child....... 
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we need more than the almighty dollar. volunteers are a vital to the success of no child left behind. many of the children are from broken homes and the language barriers that exsist are terrible. funding would certainly help, but not the only answer.
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Those of us in education often call this "No Child Left" because if our politicians (aka non-educators) continue to make policy for education in this country, that's exactly what there will be!!!
I mean, I wouldn't tell a doctor, lawyer, mechanic, engineer, etc.... how to best do their job!! But, because everyone has BEEN to school they think they know what's best for education! Not true. As both an educator and a parent, I sincerely hope NCLB will be rescinded (ok, I'm a realist and I know it won't), but I more sincerely hope that people who are clueless about education, pedagogy, evaluation, etc... stop setting policy for educators!
I mean, I wouldn't tell a doctor, lawyer, mechanic, engineer, etc.... how to best do their job!! But, because everyone has BEEN to school they think they know what's best for education! Not true. As both an educator and a parent, I sincerely hope NCLB will be rescinded (ok, I'm a realist and I know it won't), but I more sincerely hope that people who are clueless about education, pedagogy, evaluation, etc... stop setting policy for educators!
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Maybe a distinction without a difference, but standards are set for most professions including the ones you listed.
The last thing schools need is more money. There's not a direct correlation. Look at IPS school systems for further evidence.
The government would be best served by getting out of the education business.
The largest influence are the parents. That's where the main responsibility should be placed. Government can't force parents to care about their children or their children's education.
The last thing schools need is more money. There's not a direct correlation. Look at IPS school systems for further evidence.
The government would be best served by getting out of the education business.
The largest influence are the parents. That's where the main responsibility should be placed. Government can't force parents to care about their children or their children's education.
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How do you feel about the "No child left behind" policy instituted in American schools? Good-Bad? Does this policy disable the effectiveness of your teaching? Is it disruptive? Do you think there is a better way?
I don't wish to give an opinion as I don't feel educated on the subject enough to give a valid response.TY.